My deadlift sucked

Sued0nim

Seriously could not get form right

Haven't deadlifted for a few weeks (gym refurb has limited floor space and gym has been swamped) ...my form was pretty good before ...a session with trainer and wham, I turned into some baby elephant noob with no seeming conscious control of where my body was going

For an entire set

How can I completely deskill so quickly?

sgt1372

Sorry to hear it.

Were you using the same wts as b4 the 2 wk hiatus? If so, my only guess is that the layoff was too long and that you need to deload a bit to get back on track.

Sued0nim

So my question, and something I think has been throwing me off my game

My deadlift slides down my legs so touching gently on way down, is that wrong? I got that from some videos / threads somewhere. Trainer says it shouldn't, it should it be held slightly away from legs

Sued0nim

It wasn't heavy sets at all ..60kg maximum

I'm left feeling a little daunted but know I just have to go do it

distinctlybeautiful

I found my form started to go a bit when I got too confident with it. I didn't focus as much because I got used to it. I don't use this program, but I did use this web site to get my form down. https://stronglifts.com/deadlift/ It goes into a lot of detail about form. It can get redundant, but you don't absolutely have to read the whole page to get something from it.

sgt1372

Sued0nim wrote: »

So my question, and something I think has been throwing me off my game

My deadlift slides down my legs so touching gently on way down, is that wrong? I got that from some videos / threads somewhere. Trainer says it shouldn't, it should it be held slightly away from legs

I don't think your trainer is right.

The bar should be held as close to your legs as possible when doing DLs. Any movement of the bar away from your legs makes it more difficult. So, it sounds like you're doing it right, provided the bar is touching your legs on the way up as well as on the way down.

Heavy powerlifters point w/pride at their scraped shins doing DLs. The DL is my best lift and that's how I was taught & learned to do them via Starting Strength, as illustrated and described in Rippetoe's book.

Your lower legs should be just forward of vertical at the start of the pull and at full vertical at the end with the bar touching your shins and thighs during the entire lift so that the path of the bar is as close to vertical off the floor from beginning to end.

Rippetoe actually says to start the lift w/your shins touching the bar and to drag the bar up your legs legs during the lift. Your hips act as the fulcrum and your back, which remains straight and under tension throughout the movement (w/the assistance of the core and spinal erectors), is the lever. No other way to do the lift as well or efficiently than that.

canadianlbs

i've been taught contact all the way too. my kneecaps know all about it.

Sued0nim

I don't contact going up for some reason, from a midfoot bar position

That's what he says..."did you touch on way up? Then don't on way down"

I was seriously crap on Thursday though, wasn't just bar position, everything was out..mind games

(My squat was fine though so there's that)

Lesley2603

My trainer has me have contact when doing DL. I had a day a couple of weeks ago when I literally couldn't do anything, bench press, assisted pull ups, everything i tried I failed at. My trainer just said everyone has one of those days, don't worry about it, sure enough the next session I smashed it.

TR0berts

Sued0nim wrote: »

I don't contact going up for some reason, from a midfoot bar position

That's what he says..."did you touch on way up? Then don't on way down"

I was seriously crap on Thursday though, wasn't just bar position, everything was out..mind games

(My squat was fine though so there's that)

In that case, what your trainer said makes sense. I was going to disagree with him at first, but not now.

If you're doing something different with your trainer, then I'm not surprised it feels "off." And when changing something, it often (but not always) takes a few times of doing it before it feels "right" and you can increase weight.

Otherwise, I don't really have anything without more info (like a video).

curlsintherack

I think when I hurt my back I was too far out from my shins.

MelissaPhippsFeagins

Sued0nim wrote: »

So my question, and something I think has been throwing me off my game

My deadlift slides down my legs so touching gently on way down, is that wrong? I got that from some videos / threads somewhere. Trainer says it shouldn't, it should it be held slightly away from legs

Your trainer is wrong. Closer to the body is safer and stronger lifting. I wear long workout pants so that my shins don't have scrapes from the barbell.

sbrandt37

I think your trainer is mistaken--simple physics says you want your legs and the weight directly under you. But to answer your question, any time you change your form things feel all wonky for a while. I believe it has to do with muscle memory working against you, possibly along with exercising some muscles that weren't previously doing as much work in the past.

Sued0nim

TR0berts wrote: »

Sued0nim wrote: »

I don't contact going up for some reason, from a midfoot bar position

That's what he says..."did you touch on way up? Then don't on way down"

I was seriously crap on Thursday though, wasn't just bar position, everything was out..mind games

(My squat was fine though so there's that)

In that case, what your trainer said makes sense. I was going to disagree with him at first, but not now.

If you're doing something different with your trainer, then I'm not surprised it feels "off." And when changing something, it often (but not always) takes a few times of doing it before it feels "right" and you can increase weight.

Otherwise, I don't really have anything without more info (like a video).

He's never lead me wrong before and is an exceptional trainer but my body and mind are both fighting against this adjustment

My bar tracks very close to my legs it just doesn't touch up and does down

SideSteel

If it's possible for you to post A video, I would be very curious to see what looks like.

Sued0nim

Well I'm hoping it was a one off maelstrom of crapness

But if I can work out how to take a video and I'm not too embarrassed in my gym and I repeat my craptitude I will

Willbenchforcupcakes

Anytime I take time off from a lift it's a couple of sessions until I get my groove back. Taping every set helps assess what is wonky and fix it.

Also, when I pull, I keep the bar a tiny millimetre away from my body.