Quarter reps?
snubbyfan
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I keep seeing people doing quick little quarter reps at the gym.
Is there a reason for this?
Is there a reason for this?
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They're not performing the exercise correctly if that's what they're doing. No idea why people do that.0
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99% of the time, it's nothing more than ego lifting.
However, there are benefits to shortened range of motion for specific lifts. I'd say just to not worry about the others and train.4 -
I can think of at least two possible reasons:
1) They're doing something stupid that some bro told them to do. IOW, they don't know what they're doing.
2) They're working on a specific lift, and are doing the partial reps to strengthen the lift through a weak/sticking point. IOW, they do know what they're doing.1 -
I can think of at least two possible reasons:
1) They're doing something stupid that some bro told them to do. IOW, they don't know what they're doing.
2) They're working on a specific lift, and are doing the partial reps to strengthen the lift through a weak/sticking point. IOW, they do know what they're doing.
or 3) they have some kinda physical limitations or they are rehabbing something.
the majority of the time i see people doing less than full reps is because of your first reason, they dont know what they are doing. someone told them full reps are hard on the joints or not necessary or some other weird reason.0 -
I can think of at least two possible reasons:
1) They're doing something stupid that some bro told them to do. IOW, they don't know what they're doing.
2) They're working on a specific lift, and are doing the partial reps to strengthen the lift through a weak/sticking point. IOW, they do know what they're doing.
or 3) they have some kinda physical limitations or they are rehabbing something.
the majority of the time i see people doing less than full reps is because of your first reason, they dont know what they are doing. someone told them full reps are hard on the joints or not necessary or some other weird reason.
I saw two guys in the gym today doing some strange thing in one of the squat racks. It looked like a cross between the upper half of a Romanian deadlift and/or the lower half of a (kinda halfway) bent row. It wasn't a rack pull either. I looked over there a couple of times during my rest periods trying to figure it out, but can't for the life of me understand what they thought they were doing. I doubt my #2 or your #3 applied, so I have to guess it was #1.
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I can think of at least two possible reasons:
1) They're doing something stupid that some bro told them to do. IOW, they don't know what they're doing.
2) They're working on a specific lift, and are doing the partial reps to strengthen the lift through a weak/sticking point. IOW, they do know what they're doing.
or 3) they have some kinda physical limitations or they are rehabbing something.
the majority of the time i see people doing less than full reps is because of your first reason, they dont know what they are doing. someone told them full reps are hard on the joints or not necessary or some other weird reason.
I saw two guys in the gym today doing some strange thing in one of the squat racks. It looked like a cross between the upper half of a Romanian deadlift and/or the lower half of a (kinda halfway) bent row. It wasn't a rack pull either. I looked over there a couple of times during my rest periods trying to figure it out, but can't for the life of me understand what they thought they were doing. I doubt my #2 or your #3 applied, so I have to guess it was #1.
so i do these exercises, they are sorta the upper half of a deadlift but not a rack pull. i let the bar fall just below my knees and then explode it back up to a locked deadlift positon, i'm not sure what its called. But my coach has me do it it in several sets of 20 and its a killer, i'm crying by the 20th rep. Maybe thats what they were doing? It might look like a halfrep, but its a glute killer. that could fall into category 2, if they were doing it right.0 -
I can think of at least two possible reasons:
1) They're doing something stupid that some bro told them to do. IOW, they don't know what they're doing.
2) They're working on a specific lift, and are doing the partial reps to strengthen the lift through a weak/sticking point. IOW, they do know what they're doing.
or 3) they have some kinda physical limitations or they are rehabbing something.
the majority of the time i see people doing less than full reps is because of your first reason, they dont know what they are doing. someone told them full reps are hard on the joints or not necessary or some other weird reason.
I saw two guys in the gym today doing some strange thing in one of the squat racks. It looked like a cross between the upper half of a Romanian deadlift and/or the lower half of a (kinda halfway) bent row. It wasn't a rack pull either. I looked over there a couple of times during my rest periods trying to figure it out, but can't for the life of me understand what they thought they were doing. I doubt my #2 or your #3 applied, so I have to guess it was #1.
I want video. Because what I'm picturing is a barbell variant of a bent over shrug.
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It depends on what the person is trying to achieve. For example I train a kid who plays basketball and is trying to improve his leaping ability while keeping speed. I don't have him drop down to a ATG squat and jump because they don't do that during a game. So he hold dumbells (hands extended overhead) and does quarter squat jumps with speed and power.
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I can think of at least two possible reasons:
1) They're doing something stupid that some bro told them to do. IOW, they don't know what they're doing.
2) They're working on a specific lift, and are doing the partial reps to strengthen the lift through a weak/sticking point. IOW, they do know what they're doing.
or 3) they have some kinda physical limitations or they are rehabbing something.
the majority of the time i see people doing less than full reps is because of your first reason, they dont know what they are doing. someone told them full reps are hard on the joints or not necessary or some other weird reason.
I saw two guys in the gym today doing some strange thing in one of the squat racks. It looked like a cross between the upper half of a Romanian deadlift and/or the lower half of a (kinda halfway) bent row. It wasn't a rack pull either. I looked over there a couple of times during my rest periods trying to figure it out, but can't for the life of me understand what they thought they were doing. I doubt my #2 or your #3 applied, so I have to guess it was #1.
Could it have been a pendlay row?
For the most part, I would have to say it's due to ego lifting and lack of knowledge. You see a lot of new people who are fresh into fitness watching the more experienced lifters pushing some serious weight. So first thing they think is o have to lift as heavy as possible all the time in order to get to their level.
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That sounds at least somewhat close to what they were doing (minus the explosive part). But the movement was more in the lower back than the legs - more like a partial RDL than a rack pull/DL.so i do these exercises, they are sorta the upper half of a deadlift but not a rack pull. i let the bar fall just below my knees and then explode it back up to a locked deadlift positon, i'm not sure what its called. But my coach has me do it it in several sets of 20 and its a killer, i'm crying by the 20th rep. Maybe thats what they were doing? It might look like a halfrep, but its a glute killer. that could fall into category 2, if they were doing it right.
Didn't look like a shrug, there was no shoulder/trap movement involved.Willbenchforcupcakes wrote: »I want video. Because what I'm picturing is a barbell variant of a bent over shrug.
Nah, definitely not a Pendlay row. They weren't bent over that far (not even 45 degrees) and the rowing movement was minimal, it was more lower back/posterior chain like a RDL, but with a supine grip. And they weren't lowering the bar to anywhere near the ground, it was coming to just below the knees at most.Could it have been a pendlay row?
For the most part, I would have to say it's due to ego lifting and lack of knowledge. You see a lot of new people who are fresh into fitness watching the more experienced lifters pushing some serious weight. So first thing they think is o have to lift as heavy as possible all the time in order to get to their level.0 -
1.) none of your business
I stood up with a weight one time and didn't even squat. I'd challenge anyone to go ahead and judge me for not knowing what I'm doing.0 -
2) They're working on a specific lift, and are doing the partial reps to strengthen the lift through a weak/sticking point. IOW, they do know what they're doing.
Exactly. I sometimes do quarter reps at the end of a set w/isolation lifts-gives a good pump which isn't always about ego-it's actually useful.
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It helps you get stronger.0
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I agree that in most cases of the average gym go-er it could be just them performing the exercises without the full ROM. But there are many different exercises and many different ways to train, it's quite possible they are performing an exercise you've not heard of.
In my case i like to do half squats as a finisher on my leg day and i always get some crazy looks. Or crab walks to start with. These things are pretty easy to confuse with other movements if you've never seen them before.1 -
So many people commenting who have no idea what they're talking about.
Partial reps serve a purpose, you see it allot in power lifting also.
Here is a video that kind of explains partial reps, he has a few on the subject feel free to search the channel for more info.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcbDUrsKLxo
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Tedebearduff wrote: »So many people commenting who have no idea what they're talking about.
Partial reps serve a purpose, you see it allot in power lifting also.
Here is a video that kind of explains partial reps, he has a few on the subject feel free to search the channel for more info.
Okay, so... Yes, what he is saying is factually correct if you have an issue with synergistic dominance. In these case, however, it is more beneficial to perform isolation exercises or partials to assist in muscle recruitment. This is exactly why i said I incorporate things like half squats which place extra time under tension on the glutes essentially forcing them to fire.
It's also good to activate the muscles before performing a compound lift as it recruits more muscle fibers to correct this issue.
Essentially what he's saying is true, and they certainly have their place, but the end game should not be getting good at performing partials, it should be to get good at performing the exercise through the full ROM while firing all the correct muscles at the right time.
Trying to shave off the first 10% or last 10% or performing nothing but partials should not be the long term goal. Pretty much they have their place as stated, but one shouldn't rely on them as a crutch. They should not be end-game.
Again though, just to reiterate... most people performing partials are not doing so consciously or as he says "using the tools at their disposal to achieve a specific goal".
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Tedebearduff wrote: »So many people commenting who have no idea what they're talking about.
Partial reps serve a purpose, you see it allot in power lifting also.
Here is a video that kind of explains partial reps, he has a few on the subject feel free to search the channel for more info.
What comments are you referring to? I've seen one comment stating that quarter reps/partial reps aren't advised.
It still doesn't change the fact that an average gym will have people performing movements incorrectly more often than not as opposed to using partial reps to benefit specific muscle groups.
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_incogNEATo_ wrote: »Tedebearduff wrote: »So many people commenting who have no idea what they're talking about.
Partial reps serve a purpose, you see it allot in power lifting also.
Here is a video that kind of explains partial reps, he has a few on the subject feel free to search the channel for more info.
What comments are you referring to? I've seen one comment stating that quarter reps/partial reps aren't advised.
It still doesn't change the fact that an average gym will have people performing movements incorrectly more often than not as opposed to using partial reps to benefit specific muscle groups.
He must be reading a different thread and commented on the wrong one? That's all I can think of.
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_incogNEATo_ wrote: »Tedebearduff wrote: »So many people commenting who have no idea what they're talking about.
Partial reps serve a purpose, you see it allot in power lifting also.
Here is a video that kind of explains partial reps, he has a few on the subject feel free to search the channel for more info.
What comments are you referring to? I've seen one comment stating that quarter reps/partial reps aren't advised.
It still doesn't change the fact that an average gym will have people performing movements incorrectly more often than not as opposed to using partial reps to benefit specific muscle groups.
He must be reading a different thread and commented on the wrong one? That's all I can think of.
OR, may have thought that he'd be the only one to come in here and make any sense?0 -
_incogNEATo_ wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »Tedebearduff wrote: »So many people commenting who have no idea what they're talking about.
Partial reps serve a purpose, you see it allot in power lifting also.
Here is a video that kind of explains partial reps, he has a few on the subject feel free to search the channel for more info.
What comments are you referring to? I've seen one comment stating that quarter reps/partial reps aren't advised.
It still doesn't change the fact that an average gym will have people performing movements incorrectly more often than not as opposed to using partial reps to benefit specific muscle groups.
He must be reading a different thread and commented on the wrong one? That's all I can think of.
OR, may have thought that he'd be the only one to come in here and make any sense?
Based on posting history, doubtful.1 -
Yeah- I actually need to do them more.
now I need a picture. .. please hold.0 -
Yeah- I actually need to do them more.
now I need a picture. .. please hold.
Can we get one from the rear, please?
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Well, I now feel like a p*$$^ for just doing 455 lb pin squats.0
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Tedebearduff wrote: »So many people commenting who have no idea what they're talking about.
LOL-That happens pretty much daily on the MFP forums!
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Well, I now feel like a p*$$^ for just doing 455 lb pin squats.
There are quarters on there to by the way. just saying.
So yeah- up your game son.
just kidding- I was d**king around with a friends weight. I don't really pin squat that much- I would be around 350-450 if I did- I didn't even walk that back- all I did was literally stand up LMAO. that *kitten* was heavy AF.2
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