Overweight son
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is it bad to at least get him on the scale?0
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is it bad to at least get him on the scale?
Kind of. I mean. I'm only speaking from my point of view, and how I would feel if my mom asked me to do this. But it would feel like you were trying to control me. You know this better than I do, but teenagers, especially boys, don't want to be controlled. I would wait until the conversation came up naturally (don't try to force it), and if it does, then say something like, "I'll bet I weigh more than you do!" Keep it light, and make a game out of it. Bet him 20 bucks even though you know you'll lose, and when he wins, give him the 20 bucks and say, "man, you are heavier than I thought." That way, you are kind of being critical, but in a playful way. But, it may get him thinking.2 -
is it bad to at least get him on the scale?
Yes. A thousand times yes. This is one of the most detrimental things you can do. Coming from personal experience. You have to let him have control of some of the reigns too. You are coming from a good place, one of love, with that being said you have to give him a little bit of the reigns too.6 -
I'm going to be blunt. Getting him on the scale and lecturing him will not accomplish your goals. Talking to his coaches may embarrass him which will cause rebellion. Instead of worrying so much back off. Make healthy meals at home and just do the best you can with what you have. If he talks about it be open but don't start the discussion about how overweight you feel he is. Just discuss good food options.
Honestly at some point he will realize what is going on. Pushing him to lose weight is not the way to go here. You know he eats junk food so cut back on the food a bit but keep in mind that he's still growing and as such trying to force him to lose weight is a bad idea. I get that you are worried about him but right now mom lecturing is not going to do any good and may cause a negative reaction. Instead find things you can do together that will get him burning more calories without him realizing it if you can. Encourage him to find external activities.
Heck if it's snowing suggest a side job of clearing driveways. Does he earn an allowance? If so switch it to something more physically demanding, like cutting firewood if you have a fireplace (or even just bringing it in.) Find real activities that have real benefits (IE money to spend etc) that will encourage him to not only work but also burn calories.
Getting him involved in a sports camp would help too but right now it sounds slightly like something else may be going on in the background. If he's always been super athletic and is now gaining weight something may be going on at school causing him to care less, or maybe he's gotten bored.
For his height and activity level 220 isn't horrible. Support him and try to encourage him to find activities he likes doing. Does he have a car? If not find an old beater that he can rebuild and get him working on the car. As he earns money he can put money into fixing it up to be "his."
Addendum to point 1: Start getting his input on dinner. Suggest he start helping cook if he doesn't already do so. Explain what a balanced diet is and let him have some leeway in what is made. If there is something he loves that you make possibly suggest him cooking it. At a bare minimum find out what he'd like to eat.4 -
For the op you said he gained quite a bit of weight in the laSt year?; how much are we talking and did he get taller? Some kids will add some baby fat then shoot up several inches.
How does his pattern compare to family members? DI'd his doctor say anything? Most high school associations require a physical annually.3 -
I'd approach it this way...by asking the younger coach (who OP thought might be more supportive) to advise your son on how to increase his speed on the court ie "would practicing sprints help?"...ask what you all could do outside of practice to improve performance. The fitness advice from a coach might be better received.
At 16, he's old enough to learn about nutrition. I'm sure you can find some recommendations here on MFP for good books about nutrition. "Oh hey, son. I borrowed this interesting book from the library I thought you might like to read..."
ETA: my son is 8, and he's very interested in nutrition. I borrowed a couple of books from the local library geared towards kids/tweens. It can be an interesting topic for any age kid.0 -
@zorander6 he is under a lot of stress lately. It's his junior year and between a challenging school schedule he just took the PSAT and is getting ready for the sat. He is having to be tutor in physics as well. Lots of pressure so I'm sure he's turning to eating. He won't talk about it which makes it harder to help him.
After reading all the comments I think the best thing to do is cook healthy meals and talks about nutrition and portion sizes. Let things take its course. He needs to want more than me. As much as the doctor told him that he needs to lose weight and I'm so afraid of him developing diabetes, I need to walk the talk and ensure that at least at home he is getting a healthy and a balanced meal0 -
I have to 2nd what "sarko15" has said. You talking about his weight will only cause him poor self image of himself. If you've said something once I wouldn't bring it up again. At 16 he knows, and he will start a habit a sneak eating..only causing more problems..Just cook healthy at home, don't overcook, just cook enough for everyone to have a portion. He will get it, just let him and love who he is. Our children need our unconditionally love no matter what size they are.2
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I 3rd sarko15...parents can't really say anything without it being taken the wrong way but they can lead by example! So just make sure healthy options are available, you train regularly, you eat healthy etc and leave the rest to him...0
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When I was in high school I was playing elite level basketball (6 days a week, 4 hours a day) and eating like crazy to keep up with what I was burning. Then when I turned 15 I tore my ACL and was off for 9 months. I gained 25 pounds during that time. All I can say is that your son likely knows that he is overweight. High school is not a nice place(granted I am female) but teenagers are cruel and pressure to be thin/muscular is high. I knew I was overweight and didn't need my parents to point it out. Instead my parents made sure I had access to all the healthy foods I needed, allowed me to take a yoga class and get a membership to the pool (while I was rehabbing). They also made the focus of their concern on being healthy (eating well, sleeping enough, drinking water etc) not being overweight.4
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...He weights 220lbs and is 5'10". He is very active, plays basketball, baseball and football so he's always on the move; however, i know he eats way more than what I give him (probably buys from the mini mart near school)....
I am not a mother or parent to a human, but..............you need to leave him alone about his weight. If he wasn't active at all, that might be more of a concern FROM HIS DOCTOR!. You are his mother and despite your best intentions, he WILL get a complex about his weight because of you. I speak from experience with my own mother. He is 16 years old, VERY active, and still growing. LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!!!!!!!0 -
@zorander6 he is under a lot of stress lately. It's his junior year and between a challenging school schedule he just took the PSAT and is getting ready for the sat. He is having to be tutor in physics as well. Lots of pressure so I'm sure he's turning to eating. He won't talk about it which makes it harder to help him.
After reading all the comments I think the best thing to do is cook healthy meals and talks about nutrition and portion sizes. Let things take its course. He needs to want more than me. As much as the doctor told him that he needs to lose weight and I'm so afraid of him developing diabetes, I need to walk the talk and ensure that at least at home he is getting a healthy and a balanced meal
All good ideas. Just a thought, 16 is around the time some kids start experimenting with beer, which of course would add to his calorie intake that I assume you would not be aware of.0 -
Is he making his own meals? Buying his own food?
What kinds of food do you make? Maybe incorporating more lower calorie options would help? Or making smaller portions for the whole family? Something like that?0 -
Thank you all so much for your opinions and advice. His doctor mentioned that he is obese and should lose weight (especially because of the hereditary issues in the family like diabetes). His coaches however don't say a word to him! They don't really care from what I see. I do have one young coach that I could talk to and see if he can talk to my son about "hey if you lose some weight you will get faster on the court", less injuries, etc.
You are right that the desire to lose weight needs to come from him. I guess the only thing that I can do as a parent is keep promoting the healthy eating at home and hopefully by sitting on the bench a few times he will get the message.....he is really slow now (slower than last winter when he played basketball) and I can't help but think it's because of the weight.
The best way to do this is to get the coach to talk with him in a relaxed manner. What your son needs from you is 100% knowledge that you love & accept him & aren't judging him. You are safe harbor. I understand your worry for his health, because of your family history.
He is still growing, very active, sounds cardiovascularly fit. It's very possible he's heading into a growth spurt. My kids always purge (edit* pudge) up the year before a massive spurt.
I would prepare healthy meals, based around healthy fats, protein & veggies with fruit desserts. He'll gain knowledge on healthy eating, and you're doing what you can to support healthy growth. If he's still overweight at 21, then I'd have a heart to heart about your deep worry.
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I have no doubt that your son knows he's overweight.
And, as many others have shared, I was a fat kid, and my parents' comments about my weight never motivated me.
My parents both separately tried the bribery route. Before my freshman year in high school, Dad promised me platform shoes and Gloria Vanderbilt black jeans if I could fit into a certain size by the first day of school ( it was the 70s. . . those jeans were a thing) . . . and when I was accepted into an ambassador choir to spend a month in Europe, Mom offered me a whole suitcase of new clothes if I could lose weight in the 6 months before the trip.
Both failed miserably and only compounded my already quite negative body image.
And I got the new suitcase of clothes any way-- because I GAINED two sizes and couldn't fit into my clothes any more.1 -
My 12 year old gained weight very rapidly despite implementing the lifestyle changes I made that led to my weight loss. He's been at the 95th percentile for size for his entire life, so I know he'll never be reed thin. He is also active in basketball, rides bikes, and likes dancing around the house when he's bored. So I took him to his dr, and turns out he has thyroid issues that need further evaluation by endocrinology.
So in other words, get him checked out along with lifestyle changes.
Btw, someone suggested removing privileges until OP son lost weight. IMHO, no. It just seems like punishing a child for their weight, and that in itself can lead to a lifetime of self esteem issues.3 -
My advice is to leave him alone. If he is very active, he is burning a ton of calories, probably way more than you can imagine. I am 5' 10". At 16, I played two sports and during football season I weighed about 210 and was in fantastic shape. Your son is fine. Don't screw up his self-esteem by pushing him to lose weight, like my mother did. It will not help and he will resent it and you.
He is at the age where he needs to start learning to care for himself. The more you try to manage his eating, the less space there is for him to learn to do it himself. Give him that space.2 -
My take.. Why do We all overeat? Being 16 is hard.. Both my kids had issues with body image were not even overweight. But thought they were. I have eaten my whole life either because I was stressed or lonely. My son told me later that it was his hardest year. And I thought he was happy. All those sports plus school work is incredibly stressful. Any change in eating is something u should look at. Men suffer from eating issues too. If he is going out and buying bad food that's a red flag. If he is doing it at home don't stock any bad food. Stock items that are healthy yet tasty.. Like flavored hummus with high fiber chips. Stuff that will fill him up.
Don't point it out yet.. Every social outing for teens involves food. I mean if we don't eat at a party people are like why aren't u eating!!!!
keep a private account of when he eats.. After sports.. After homework? Does he eat alone? Times and how he does it tell u exactly why. Comes home says he's starving mom make me something vs. A bit secretive eating. Also.. Maybe a doctor's visit.. Diabetes can cause both weight gain and needing certain foods.
My last thought too.. He may be going through his last growth spurt too.
You are coming from a place of love.
If u were sixteen and gained weight how would you have wanted someone to talk to you.
Hugs.. It hurts when we want to fix it and we don't know how
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Bit of a long shot, but can you afford a family vacation down south somewhere this winter? Perhaps the prospect of a week on the beach in February might spur him to take action.0
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we have 3 sons & a daughter. 2 of my boys got overweight starting in middle school. Our youngest got 350 lbs! When he was a senior, my hubby took the computer away from him, he had nothing to do so he started walking, going to the gym & eating less. We didn't make him do it. It was his choice. He got down to size medium. This was 13yrs ago & he never gained it back. Our middle son is tall & over weight. He'll lose weight then gain it back. He's married with a son. We don't tell him what to do., he knows it's not good for him, we just accept him & pray he'll take better care of himself. He won't listen anyway0
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I was my brother's guardian in high school (he is a year behind me), as my parents were always out of the country and my older sister already at Law School, when my brother gained 30 to 40 lbs above his usual weight from his decision to study instead of his usual sports oriented extra curricular activities due to the fact that it was a public examination year for him. Same amount of food going in, pretty much zero exercise.
Being a clueless 16 year old at the time, I purchased a few Fitness and Muscle & Fitness magazines, which I'd placed in his bathroom and bedroom magazine racks. I made certain that there were a lot of before and after stories too for him to read on top of the usual stories and advertising.
2 days later he came to me stating that he wanted to change his eating and was going to start following xyz's meal plan (if I could cook that for him), he needed certain training equipment bought and gym membership at the only free weights gym in the City. He went from being a little overweight to winning his category in our country's Physique competition and later Powerlifting.8 -
Big changes in activity level without parallel changes in eating can result in weight gain - that's a given, and it's how I gained weight during several times when I gained rather than maintained. That's something that you can probably talk about in general terms.
But I'm with many others: shaming and lecturing aren't going to help. There's no evidence that they result in real positive behavior change around eating and weight, and a lot of evidence that they result in *negative* behaviors.
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He will probably tackle it himself sooner or later, the key is making sure he has access to good information so he doesn't try to lose weight in an unhealthy way. If he's aware that you can help him with information, and getting a good example from you about eating well at home, then that plus unconditional acceptance is probably as far as parental help can go at that age.0
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i know that he needs to lose weight when he's ready; the issue that i have is that, as a parent, I take the blame for creating the unhealthy habits as i had it myself in the past. As a parent we want what is best for them and I have a hard time watching him gain weight and then developing diabetes, etc. because i did not do something about it. The doctor has spoke with him about it and we have mentioned to him about diabetes being in our family but he still doesn't get it. Very hard as a parent to watch your kid gaining weight when he plays 3 sports. But come to find out, he has been going to dunkin donuts, getting sports drink, etc. All of the stuff that i don't have in the house. Again, yes he needs to make the decision to stop doing those things and i cannot control what he does outside the home. But it's so hard to watch and not do something about if if you know what i mean!
I thought about making another drs appt. to get blood work, etc done to make sure his thyroids and sugar are in acceptable levels then have another talk to him. The problem is that he is a procrastinator and i can just see it now. Unless it happens to him, he will not make the move and lose weight to prevent it from happening. That's what i'm afraid is going to get down to0 -
i know that he needs to lose weight when he's ready; the issue that i have is that, as a parent, I take the blame for creating the unhealthy habits as i had it myself in the past. As a parent we want what is best for them and I have a hard time watching him gain weight and then developing diabetes, etc. because i did not do something about it. The doctor has spoke with him about it and we have mentioned to him about diabetes being in our family but he still doesn't get it. Very hard as a parent to watch your kid gaining weight when he plays 3 sports. But come to find out, he has been going to dunkin donuts, getting sports drink, etc. All of the stuff that i don't have in the house. Again, yes he needs to make the decision to stop doing those things and i cannot control what he does outside the home. But it's so hard to watch and not do something about if if you know what i mean!
I thought about making another drs appt. to get blood work, etc done to make sure his thyroids and sugar are in acceptable levels then have another talk to him. The problem is that he is a procrastinator and i can just see it now. Unless it happens to him, he will not make the move and lose weight to prevent it from happening. That's what i'm afraid is going to get down to
Some of this is just normal teenage boy immaturity. Guide gently, resist the urge to nag constantly, and hopefully he'll eventually grow out of it. I know--easier said than done, but I'm right there with you.
This week's struggle at my house? Constant streaming of stupid youtube videos (even when he's supposed to be doing homework), PSAT scores coming in lower than expected, a lengthy talk about the test scores he needs to get into the university he wants to attend, and I turn around and he's streaming videos again. Arrrrrrgh!
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@mitch16 this sounds so much like my son! sorry to hear that, but at the same time, sort of glad that it's not just him! I guess part of being a parent is hoping that our children will not make the same mistakes we made; but sometimes we must let them fall so that they figure it out. But when it comes to health, that scares me!1
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Go momma for caring about your kid's nutrition! Here's my perspective: My parents never had any kind of talk with me about nutrition or physical fitness- I was homeschooled and my "gym" time was walking the dog or playing outside. I was 180lbs and a womens size 18 by age 12.
With this in mind, I would encourage you bring nutrition and physical fitness into your home as a general guideline for you both to follow. When he walks by ask him what he thinks about substituting fruit for dessert, or lean turkey over ground beef; tell him you're going to start serving salad with dinner every night, or wanting to spend quality time with him in the evenings with a stroll around the block. Ask him if he'll help YOU be healthier, and I bet he will learn a lot about his own body and lifestyle.
PS I also second getting him tested for thyroid problems. Not just TSH, but T3 and T4 and Thyroid antibodies (there are 2 types) I developed thyroid disease by college and it tremendously affects your ability to lose weight if untreated.0 -
Mary_Anastasia wrote: »With this in mind, I would encourage you bring nutrition and physical fitness into your home as a general guideline for you both to follow. When he walks by ask him what he thinks about substituting fruit for dessert, or lean turkey over ground beef; tell him you're going to start serving salad with dinner every night, or wanting to spend quality time with him in the evenings with a stroll around the block. Ask him if he'll help YOU be healthier, and I bet he will learn a lot about his own body and lifestyle.
This seems like a good idea. I think if you're all following the same guidelines then it maybe seems less like nagging? I don't know, though, it seems like you might be doing this already.
The other thing is that if he is a procrastinator, he's likely to be demand-resistant, and the more you talk about it, the less likely he becomes to do it. I know this because I am a procrastinator, and the more people (especially my mother!) push me to do a thing, the more anxious and resistant I become. I have to find my way to it myself.
That doesn't mean you should never mention it, a serious heart-to-heart couldn't hurt, but repeating it may be counterproductive. Say it once, then model it, would be my advice.
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I have no advice, OP, but I sympathize immensely.
I started gaining weight in middle school and by the end of middle school I was obese. My mother, for the most part, never said anything. She had to be hospitalized for an ED before I came along and always struggled a bit I think with her body image. I think she just didn't want the same thing for me so she said nothing.
I think this is one of those situations where as a parent you are *kitten* if you do *kitten* if you don't. I can't imagine anything you could say being received well by him, but at the same time you don't want to sit and watch your child eat himself into oblivion.
In my case, one day I woke up and decided I didn't want to be fat anymore and put myself on a diet. I lost a tremendous amount of weight and was back at a healthy BMI. The problem came in because that's exactly what I did. I put myself on a "diet". I didn't make healthy, sustainable changes and choices. I just lost the weight and slowly went back to my old habits of overeating.
When he's ready to lose the weight I think you would be in more of a position to help him and make sure he's making healthy, sustainable changes.1
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