The most wonderful time of year... with neighbors singing xmas lights
So this is not food/diet related but I'm not a part of any other online forums so I'll post this rant here...
My next door neighbors have brightly colored singing Christmas lights that they leave on 24/7. They "sing" by playing squeaky versions of various Christmas carols in the sort of voice you'd expect a LED light to have. They're really not very loud in that you couldn't hear them from across the street, but our houses are really close together and I can hear them in my bedroom constantly, all night and all day. Incidentally, the flashing lights are also really bright in my bedroom but since I live in the city I basically can't ever expect darkness to sleep. The singing is the really stressful part, besides not having any peace and quiet in my own apartment I'm also studying really hard for finals right now. I've been confined in my room studying all this past weekend and the "music" makes it really difficult to concentrate.
So my question is, how bitchy of a neighbor would I be if I left an anonymous note asking them to turn off the singing? I feel weird talking to them directly because I've never actually spoken to these neighbors, I only moved into the neighborhood last September and they've been here a lot longer. I'm not a confrontational person. I feel like the grinch lol but the music is literally driving me crazy! I've considered filing a noise complaint but I won't actually do it because it's silly to waste the government's time over some Christmas lights...
What would you do if you were me?
My next door neighbors have brightly colored singing Christmas lights that they leave on 24/7. They "sing" by playing squeaky versions of various Christmas carols in the sort of voice you'd expect a LED light to have. They're really not very loud in that you couldn't hear them from across the street, but our houses are really close together and I can hear them in my bedroom constantly, all night and all day. Incidentally, the flashing lights are also really bright in my bedroom but since I live in the city I basically can't ever expect darkness to sleep. The singing is the really stressful part, besides not having any peace and quiet in my own apartment I'm also studying really hard for finals right now. I've been confined in my room studying all this past weekend and the "music" makes it really difficult to concentrate.
So my question is, how bitchy of a neighbor would I be if I left an anonymous note asking them to turn off the singing? I feel weird talking to them directly because I've never actually spoken to these neighbors, I only moved into the neighborhood last September and they've been here a lot longer. I'm not a confrontational person. I feel like the grinch lol but the music is literally driving me crazy! I've considered filing a noise complaint but I won't actually do it because it's silly to waste the government's time over some Christmas lights...
What would you do if you were me?
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Just kock and the door and say excuse me, the singing lights keep me up at night because the walls are thin. Can you turn them off at 8pm?
Simple. No need to complicate it or worse, get them in trouble with a noise complaint.4 -
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Do ya have the spulirit???0
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Brown Paper Bag + Dog Poo + Cigarette Lighter = Problem Solved ?0
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You are 100% within your rights and not at all b!tchy if you ask them to turn them off of a night. Leaving them on overnight is just rude.3
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This reminds me, I have to watch: Deck The Halls!0
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This is apartment dwelling, yes or no? Nothing in the rental agreement about noise accordance? Did you get any sleep last night? Use your best judgement..
eta: leaving nasty note sounds like a cop out.. A knock on the door with cookies in hand might work..2 -
I'd go nuts and definitely knock on their door asking them to turn them off at 9pm or something... but yeah, the cookie idea is a good one.1
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Pretty sure there is a noise ordinance in most places. If you are leery of approaching just call the police and make an anonymous complaint. They will knock on the door and ask them to turn the things off during the night. In my life experience with neighbors or people in general, a simple polite request such as this has triggered serious hostility. So I have become cautious about asking such of people. If you think they may be reasonable people then drop a note or ask them directly, however know if you ask them directly you will be on their radar and any noise complaint that gets filed will always be blamed on you whether you were the one who complained or not. There is no reason to keep the things going constantly anyway. If they were reasonable people I would assume they wouldn't leave these lights going night and day in the first place.2
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I feel like a noise complaint would just make them b*tchy and being suspicious of everyone. I definitely third (we're on agreement #3 right?) the cookie/baked good suggestion. It'll show that you really aren't trying to be a nuisance to them, and that you want to keep everything peaceful
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This is apartment dwelling, yes or no? Nothing in the rental agreement about noise accordance? Did you get any sleep last night? Use your best judgement..
eta: leaving nasty note sounds like a cop out.. A knock on the door with cookies in hand might work..
Where was a "nasty" note mentioned? Anonymous doesn't mean "nasty". You can be very kind and considerate in an anonymous note.0 -
ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »This is apartment dwelling, yes or no? Nothing in the rental agreement about noise accordance? Did you get any sleep last night? Use your best judgement..
eta: leaving nasty note sounds like a cop out.. A knock on the door with cookies in hand might work..
Where was a "nasty" note mentioned? Anonymous doesn't mean "nasty". You can be very kind and considerate in an anonymous note.
anonymous unsigned note asking them to turn off the singing..
Depends on what that note consists of and how well it is received.. to me I might interpret this a ba hum bug..
I did say go nicely with a gift and have a conversation..might even meet a nice neighbor that will accept your gift and comply. who the heck knows..0 -
I'd go to them and explain that you can hear the noise in your apartment and ask them nicely to please turn off the singing lights at night. It is reasonable to make them aware of an issue and give them a chance to fix it.
I'd also get a white noise machine to drown out neighbor noises.
I would not do an anonymous note or call the police.0 -
ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »This is apartment dwelling, yes or no? Nothing in the rental agreement about noise accordance? Did you get any sleep last night? Use your best judgement..
eta: leaving nasty note sounds like a cop out.. A knock on the door with cookies in hand might work..
Where was a "nasty" note mentioned? Anonymous doesn't mean "nasty". You can be very kind and considerate in an anonymous note.
anonymous unsigned note asking them to turn off the singing..
Depends on what that note consists of and how well it is received.. to me I might interpret this a ba hum bug..
I did say go nicely with a gift and have a conversation..might even meet a nice neighbor that will accept your gift and comply. who the heck knows..
^^^^^ THIS is why I say not to ask them directly. You just don't know how they will respond or receive your note no matter how nicely you ask them to turn it off at night.0 -
ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »This is apartment dwelling, yes or no? Nothing in the rental agreement about noise accordance? Did you get any sleep last night? Use your best judgement..
eta: leaving nasty note sounds like a cop out.. A knock on the door with cookies in hand might work..
Where was a "nasty" note mentioned? Anonymous doesn't mean "nasty". You can be very kind and considerate in an anonymous note.
anonymous unsigned note asking them to turn off the singing..
Depends on what that note consists of and how well it is received.. to me I might interpret this a ba hum bug..
I did say go nicely with a gift and have a conversation..might even meet a nice neighbor that will accept your gift and comply. who the heck knows..
^^^^^ THIS is why I say not to ask them directly. You just don't know how they will respond or receive your note no matter how nicely you ask them to turn it off at night.
Particularly with police being aggressive, it isn't fair to get people in trouble over something that is a mere nuisance. It is unconscionable to not give people an opportunity to fix a small issue before getting the law involved.
Get a spine, and be nice and ask nicely. #4 or 5 agree with the cookies and polite request.
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Just ask them.0
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thisonetimeatthegym wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »This is apartment dwelling, yes or no? Nothing in the rental agreement about noise accordance? Did you get any sleep last night? Use your best judgement..
eta: leaving nasty note sounds like a cop out.. A knock on the door with cookies in hand might work..
Where was a "nasty" note mentioned? Anonymous doesn't mean "nasty". You can be very kind and considerate in an anonymous note.
anonymous unsigned note asking them to turn off the singing..
Depends on what that note consists of and how well it is received.. to me I might interpret this a ba hum bug..
I did say go nicely with a gift and have a conversation..might even meet a nice neighbor that will accept your gift and comply. who the heck knows..
^^^^^ THIS is why I say not to ask them directly. You just don't know how they will respond or receive your note no matter how nicely you ask them to turn it off at night.
Particularly with police being aggressive, it isn't fair to get people in trouble over something that is a mere nuisance. It is unconscionable to not give people an opportunity to fix a small issue before getting the law involved.
Get a spine, and be nice and ask nicely. #4 or 5 agree with the cookies and polite request.
Police aren't aggressive unless provoked most of the time. The liberal media would have you believe otherwise. That is not what this is about. I am only saying that you just do not know how that person will react. Some people get very offended and defensive when another person asks them not to do something no matter how nice that request is. People are so prone to insane reactions these days, and I have had enough experiences with thinking a person could behave like a rational adult and paid dearly for it, that I never recommend approaching. This is why an anonymous note or a call to the police are my two ways of handing neighbors that you do not know. If you know the neighbor and feel like you can speak to them that's a different story. If you don't know someone you just cannot predict what they may do. Life lessons here. Speaking from experience. No one has to like it, but my advice stands.1 -
ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »This is apartment dwelling, yes or no? Nothing in the rental agreement about noise accordance? Did you get any sleep last night? Use your best judgement..
eta: leaving nasty note sounds like a cop out.. A knock on the door with cookies in hand might work..
Where was a "nasty" note mentioned? Anonymous doesn't mean "nasty". You can be very kind and considerate in an anonymous note.
anonymous unsigned note asking them to turn off the singing..
Depends on what that note consists of and how well it is received.. to me I might interpret this a ba hum bug..
I did say go nicely with a gift and have a conversation..might even meet a nice neighbor that will accept your gift and comply. who the heck knows..
^^^^^ THIS is why I say not to ask them directly. You just don't know how they will respond or receive your note no matter how nicely you ask them to turn it off at night.
I am quite confused now,,, I said no note in my first post.. I still stand by no note.. But I also believe that you can knock on a door if you are not afraid to knock on a door.. Cookies was just a silly gesture too..
I also said to check the rules of the appropriate dwelling circumstances first to see if it can be handle by management.. and just use your best judgement..
I am simply a stranger on the internet and have no say so in the matter and OP is wanting advice when personally I think OP already knows what to do for their comfort zone.
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ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »This is apartment dwelling, yes or no? Nothing in the rental agreement about noise accordance? Did you get any sleep last night? Use your best judgement..
eta: leaving nasty note sounds like a cop out.. A knock on the door with cookies in hand might work..
Where was a "nasty" note mentioned? Anonymous doesn't mean "nasty". You can be very kind and considerate in an anonymous note.
anonymous unsigned note asking them to turn off the singing..
Depends on what that note consists of and how well it is received.. to me I might interpret this a ba hum bug..
I did say go nicely with a gift and have a conversation..might even meet a nice neighbor that will accept your gift and comply. who the heck knows..
^^^^^ THIS is why I say not to ask them directly. You just don't know how they will respond or receive your note no matter how nicely you ask them to turn it off at night.
I am quite confused now,,, I said no note in my first post.. I still stand by no note.. But I also believe that you can knock on a door if you are not afraid to knock on a door.. Cookies was just a silly gesture too..
I also said to check the rules of the appropriate dwelling circumstances first to see if it can be handle by management.. and just use your best judgement..
I am simply a stranger on the internet and have no say so in the matter and OP is wanting advice when personally I think OP already knows what to do for their comfort zone.
You said, " leaving nasty note sounds like a cop out." and, "Depends on what that note consists of and how well it is received.. to me I might interpret this a ba hum bug.."
You assume "bah humbug" with out even knowing what the not would consist of. Thus proving my point. All the cookies and kind requests in the world won't matter to the irrational. MY POINT BEING.... you DO NOT KNOW how a person YOU DO NOT KNOW will react to being asked to do anything no matter how nice you are. Some folks take great offense and move on to doing deliberately irritating things for spite, or become a hostile neighbor in general. For about the third time I will point out that I speak from experience. Not just a single instance mind you, but experience with neighbors through out my life. If you don't know someone you just can't tell how they will react.
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Is this really an internet debate, has society really sunk to this level? Knock of their door and talk to them ... it's not rocket science.3
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ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »This is apartment dwelling, yes or no? Nothing in the rental agreement about noise accordance? Did you get any sleep last night? Use your best judgement..
eta: leaving nasty note sounds like a cop out.. A knock on the door with cookies in hand might work..
Where was a "nasty" note mentioned? Anonymous doesn't mean "nasty". You can be very kind and considerate in an anonymous note.
anonymous unsigned note asking them to turn off the singing..
Depends on what that note consists of and how well it is received.. to me I might interpret this a ba hum bug..
I did say go nicely with a gift and have a conversation..might even meet a nice neighbor that will accept your gift and comply. who the heck knows..
^^^^^ THIS is why I say not to ask them directly. You just don't know how they will respond or receive your note no matter how nicely you ask them to turn it off at night.
I am quite confused now,,, I said no note in my first post.. I still stand by no note.. But I also believe that you can knock on a door if you are not afraid to knock on a door.. Cookies was just a silly gesture too..
I also said to check the rules of the appropriate dwelling circumstances first to see if it can be handle by management.. and just use your best judgement..
I am simply a stranger on the internet and have no say so in the matter and OP is wanting advice when personally I think OP already knows what to do for their comfort zone.
You said, " leaving nasty note sounds like a cop out." and, "Depends on what that note consists of and how well it is received.. to me I might interpret this a ba hum bug.."
You assume "bah humbug" with out even knowing what the not would consist of. Thus proving my point. All the cookies and kind requests in the world won't matter to the irrational. MY POINT BEING.... you DO NOT KNOW how a person YOU DO NOT KNOW will react to being asked to do anything no matter how nice you are. Some folks take great offense and move on to doing deliberately irritating things for spite, or become a hostile neighbor in general. For about the third time I will point out that I speak from experience. Not just a single instance mind you, but experience with neighbors through out my life. If you don't know someone you just can't tell how they will react.
taking all things a little bit toooooo seriously..
OP there are crazies out there. and they are everywhere... use your best judgement..0 -
What ever you decide I hope you can resolve the issue. Sleep deprivation is terrible and you deserve to find a resolution so that you may get a good night's sleep. Best of luck no matter what you decide is best.1
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Well, lights are a fire hazard. Set their house on fire and blame it on the lights (technically it is). Job done. Hell no more house so better view!0
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So this is not food/diet related but I'm not a part of any other online forums so I'll post this rant here...
My next door neighbors have brightly colored singing Christmas lights that they leave on 24/7. They "sing" by playing squeaky versions of various Christmas carols in the sort of voice you'd expect a LED light to have. They're really not very loud in that you couldn't hear them from across the street, but our houses are really close together and I can hear them in my bedroom constantly, all night and all day. Incidentally, the flashing lights are also really bright in my bedroom but since I live in the city I basically can't ever expect darkness to sleep. The singing is the really stressful part, besides not having any peace and quiet in my own apartment I'm also studying really hard for finals right now. I've been confined in my room studying all this past weekend and the "music" makes it really difficult to concentrate.
So my question is, how bitchy of a neighbor would I be if I left an anonymous note asking them to turn off the singing? I feel weird talking to them directly because I've never actually spoken to these neighbors, I only moved into the neighborhood last September and they've been here a lot longer. I'm not a confrontational person. I feel like the grinch lol but the music is literally driving me crazy! I've considered filing a noise complaint but I won't actually do it because it's silly to waste the government's time over some Christmas lights...
What would you do if you were me?
I would just go over and knock on the door and tell them that their lights and music are keeping me up at night and politely ask if they could turn them off after 9 or something...
Really, are we at the point in our society where people won't/don't even talk to their neighbors now?2 -
Is this really an internet debate, has society really sunk to this level? Knock of their door and talk to them ... it's not rocket science.
THIS!!! ^^^ Seriously! WTF? JUST ASK THEM!
Has all this online living left us hiding in our little shells and too afraid to poke our heads out into the real world??
"it's not rocket science..." or, as a friend of mine once said, "We ain't paintin' the Mona Lisa here!"2 -
ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »thisonetimeatthegym wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »This is apartment dwelling, yes or no? Nothing in the rental agreement about noise accordance? Did you get any sleep last night? Use your best judgement..
eta: leaving nasty note sounds like a cop out.. A knock on the door with cookies in hand might work..
Where was a "nasty" note mentioned? Anonymous doesn't mean "nasty". You can be very kind and considerate in an anonymous note.
anonymous unsigned note asking them to turn off the singing..
Depends on what that note consists of and how well it is received.. to me I might interpret this a ba hum bug..
I did say go nicely with a gift and have a conversation..might even meet a nice neighbor that will accept your gift and comply. who the heck knows..
^^^^^ THIS is why I say not to ask them directly. You just don't know how they will respond or receive your note no matter how nicely you ask them to turn it off at night.
Particularly with police being aggressive, it isn't fair to get people in trouble over something that is a mere nuisance. It is unconscionable to not give people an opportunity to fix a small issue before getting the law involved.
Get a spine, and be nice and ask nicely. #4 or 5 agree with the cookies and polite request.
Police aren't aggressive unless provoked most of the time. The liberal media would have you believe otherwise. That is not what this is about. I am only saying that you just do not know how that person will react. Some people get very offended and defensive when another person asks them not to do something no matter how nice that request is. People are so prone to insane reactions these days, and I have had enough experiences with thinking a person could behave like a rational adult and paid dearly for it, that I never recommend approaching. This is why an anonymous note or a call to the police are my two ways of handing neighbors that you do not know. If you know the neighbor and feel like you can speak to them that's a different story. If you don't know someone you just cannot predict what they may do. Life lessons here. Speaking from experience. No one has to like it, but my advice stands.
Liberal media. That's cute. For many more people, it's personal experience.
As for being prone to insane reactions, I'd say calling the police over some CHRISTMAS music lights ranks pretty high up there. Especially when no effort has been made to resolve the issue oneself.
The police have a very difficult job. Why bother them with minutia and take up resources over something that is not threatening the safety of anyone.
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vikinglander wrote: »Is this really an internet debate, has society really sunk to this level? Knock of their door and talk to them ... it's not rocket science.
THIS!!! ^^^ Seriously! WTF? JUST ASK THEM!
Has all this online living left us hiding in our little shells and too afraid to poke our heads out into the real world??
"it's not rocket science..." or, as a friend of mine once said, "We ain't paintin' the Mona Lisa here!"
Yes, it has.0 -
ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »This is apartment dwelling, yes or no? Nothing in the rental agreement about noise accordance? Did you get any sleep last night? Use your best judgement..
eta: leaving nasty note sounds like a cop out.. A knock on the door with cookies in hand might work..
Where was a "nasty" note mentioned? Anonymous doesn't mean "nasty". You can be very kind and considerate in an anonymous note.
anonymous unsigned note asking them to turn off the singing..
Depends on what that note consists of and how well it is received.. to me I might interpret this a ba hum bug..
I did say go nicely with a gift and have a conversation..might even meet a nice neighbor that will accept your gift and comply. who the heck knows..
^^^^^ THIS is why I say not to ask them directly. You just don't know how they will respond or receive your note no matter how nicely you ask them to turn it off at night.
I am quite confused now,,, I said no note in my first post.. I still stand by no note.. But I also believe that you can knock on a door if you are not afraid to knock on a door.. Cookies was just a silly gesture too..
I also said to check the rules of the appropriate dwelling circumstances first to see if it can be handle by management.. and just use your best judgement..
I am simply a stranger on the internet and have no say so in the matter and OP is wanting advice when personally I think OP already knows what to do for their comfort zone.
You said, " leaving nasty note sounds like a cop out." and, "Depends on what that note consists of and how well it is received.. to me I might interpret this a ba hum bug.."
You assume "bah humbug" with out even knowing what the not would consist of. Thus proving my point. All the cookies and kind requests in the world won't matter to the irrational. MY POINT BEING.... you DO NOT KNOW how a person YOU DO NOT KNOW will react to being asked to do anything no matter how nice you are. Some folks take great offense and move on to doing deliberately irritating things for spite, or become a hostile neighbor in general. For about the third time I will point out that I speak from experience. Not just a single instance mind you, but experience with neighbors through out my life. If you don't know someone you just can't tell how they will react.
You...are...hilarious.
We all have neighbors. I had some with loud girlfriends and squeaky bedsprings. I managed to discuss it without being obnoxious.
We all have had to, at some point, address an issue.
But you know from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE (caps and bold, to be sure), that one cannot appropriately handle nuisances.
Yet, you dismiss everyone else's personal experiences with police as LIBERAL MEDIA.
Whatevs. This is Christmas time, so peace to you and goodwill toward men!
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Cutaway_Collar wrote: »I don't agree with the cop calling. It's cowardly and not nice. Just take yo *kitten* to that door and be upfront. Covert tactics only harbour bad sentiments.
I was working from home one day and two guys knocked my door and they told they were from homeland security. They asked me if I am muslim in an indirect way and they left.... apologetic and embarrassed. I was shell shocked myself.
My wife and I just bought the house in a predominantly white and very posh neighborhood. And I parked my car at the front of my house because I can and it is legal and my wife loves to use the driveway into the one car garage. A day ago I saw a note that asked me to park in my driveway. Then the guy came by banged on my door and told me he is concerned drivers would hit his lawn swerving around my car though the road is wide enough. It got a little bit argumentative and his response is to call homeland security.
I still park there whenever I want. The police told both houses it's 100% legal and they cannot harass me about street parking as the whole street has cars parked on either side.
How awful. I'm sorry you had to deal with that.
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I think his world view got a jolt when he saw a brown boy mowing lawn across the streetthisonetimeatthegym wrote: »Cutaway_Collar wrote: »I don't agree with the cop calling. It's cowardly and not nice. Just take yo *kitten* to that door and be upfront. Covert tactics only harbour bad sentiments.
I was working from home one day and two guys knocked my door and they told they were from homeland security. They asked me if I am muslim in an indirect way and they left.... apologetic and embarrassed. I was shell shocked myself.
My wife and I just bought the house in a predominantly white and very posh neighborhood. And I parked my car at the front of my house because I can and it is legal and my wife loves to use the driveway into the one car garage. A day ago I saw a note that asked me to park in my driveway. Then the guy came by banged on my door and told me he is concerned drivers would hit his lawn swerving around my car though the road is wide enough. It got a little bit argumentative and his response is to call homeland security.
I still park there whenever I want. The police told both houses it's 100% legal and they cannot harass me about street parking as the whole street has cars parked on either side.
How awful. I'm sorry you had to deal with that.
I also drive down the hood blasting jayz or kanye west once in a while to show the rooster is coming back from work
Jokes aside, he could have told me he loves his lawn so much. I rarely park in the street as I don't want him cursing me in his head. Bad energy which I don't need. I even invited him for coffee once. Calling cops or anything else is just not nice at all. It only exposes cowardice.
I could not agree more.
We had been in our house a little less than a year, and it being a cold November evening we decided to light the fire pit.
Now, our neighbors had never uttered two words to us let alone a simple wave or "hey, how's it going." This night the wife sends the neighbor from three houses down to tell us that she can smell the smoke from the fire pit in her baby's room. I was slightly annoyed that she could not step a few feet out of her house and speak to us directly.
Being parents ourselves, we totally understood how she may feel so we picked the whole thing up (while it was on fire) and moved it clear across the yard and into the corner and made sure none of the smoke was going toward their house.
Less than an hour later there were 3 cop cars in front of my house. WTF?!?!?! She called the police! The smoke was a "nuisance" to the block. Obviously, we were not doing anything wrong and even accommodated her by moving the fire pit so there was not much the police could do other than to tell us it was bothering her. Complete waste of their time.
The smoke from our little fire pit was nothing compared to the 3 cop cars on my quite little suburban block. That was the nuisance!
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