But it has FAT!!!
NYCNika
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So I am now at size 2 or 4, depending on brand (from size 12 six month ago). All my co-workers notice and have a lot of positive comments.
But... whenever I put half and half in my coffee or full fat fresh cream cheese(one of those hand packed ones) on my bagel, I get these shocked exclamations "but it has fat!".
People don't seem to understand that eating "low fat" is not a solution. I eat almost everything full fat (except for skim milk). It is just when I used to have a bagel with cream cheese and did not exercise, now, when I want a bagel, I will have half a bagel with cream cheese and work out 5 times a week.
When manufacturers take out fat, they have to put something else in its place. Fillers, carbs, sugar... None of these are any better than fat. Sugar might be worse. At least your body understands normal fat. I think the more processed it is, and further from the way we used to it, the less well your body copes. But in people's mind fat you consume is what makes you fat.
But... whenever I put half and half in my coffee or full fat fresh cream cheese(one of those hand packed ones) on my bagel, I get these shocked exclamations "but it has fat!".
People don't seem to understand that eating "low fat" is not a solution. I eat almost everything full fat (except for skim milk). It is just when I used to have a bagel with cream cheese and did not exercise, now, when I want a bagel, I will have half a bagel with cream cheese and work out 5 times a week.
When manufacturers take out fat, they have to put something else in its place. Fillers, carbs, sugar... None of these are any better than fat. Sugar might be worse. At least your body understands normal fat. I think the more processed it is, and further from the way we used to it, the less well your body copes. But in people's mind fat you consume is what makes you fat.
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If you have lost that much weight, why the heck are they concerned with what you are eating anyway?? You obviously know what you are doing, and it isn't like you are going to gain it all back instantly just because you eat some fat!0
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I think that's one of the hardest concepts for people to get. I also only eat full fat except for dairy (I also eat 2% or skim milk cheese). Dietary fat =/= body fat. Our bodies need fats for the production of certain chemicals and to perform some functions. The advertising industry has done so well to convince us that dietary fat is what makes us fat. I don't eat ANY diet foods. Period. I COOK healthier versions of foods I love, and I'm never starving nor do I feel deprived.0
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I love full fat foods...except my milk has to be skim. Amazing how many people don't realize our body needs some fat.0
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Hehe, I had this happen when my 19 year old niece came over for dinner one night. We had ordered pizza, and I had 2 slices and a beer (gasp!). Later I mentioned my weight loss efforts, and she was shocked. "But you just ate pizza!" she exclaimed, and I chuckled and said "yep, and I've lost 15 lbs so far!" I was most amused by the confused look she had on her face after that!0
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sometimes people can be really annoying. some of the ladies at my work give me a hard time when i mention something about working out. they always say that i don't need to anymore because i'm skinny enough. i guess the idea of a permanent healthy lifestyle doesn't occur to some people. or the idea of mind your own business...?
anyways, nice job losing the weight! keep doing what you're doing and ignore those comments! you obviously know how to get it done! :flowerforyou:0 -
I switched to full fat everything when I decided to lose weight and people are just so perplexed by it.
Seriously the whole fat == fat thing really took a hold of the populace and it's going to be hard to shift.0 -
Great job on the loss! I get it...it drives me crazy too but then when I feel like going off on a rampage about it I step back and think "I use to be one of the mis-informed, un-educated people too". It wasn't until I really got interested in the nutrition side of becoming healthier that I understood this concept. All we can do is bite our tongues and keep on keeping on with what we know works for us and hope that others will educate themselves.0
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Very often I eat higher calorie just because I understand what is in it. Mayo, for example.
Hellman's low fat "mayo dressing" 15 calories per tablespoon:
WATER, MODIFIED CORN STARCH*, SOYBEAN OIL, VINEGAR, HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP*, EGG WHITES, SALT, SUGAR, XANTHAM GUM*, LEMON AND LIME PEEL FIBERS*, COLORS ADDED*, LACTIC ACID*, (SODIUM BENZOATE*, CALCIUM DISODIUM EDTA), PHOSPHORIC ACID*, NATURAL FLAVORS.
I know it is 15 calories, but I just would not feel good while eating it. That does not fit my idea of what food is.
Spectrum canola mayo, 100 calories per tablespoon:
Expeller Pressed Canola Oil, Pasteurized Whole Eggs, Filtered Water, Honey, White Vinegar, Sea Salt, Dry Mustard, Lemon Juice Concentrate.
My body knows what oil is, my ancestors had it. Modified corn starch on the other hand... I don't know WTF they modified...0 -
My husband tells me all the time that I can eat whatever I want, whenever I want, but will sometimes say that some foods are "too fattening" when I ask if he would like some of what I'm having. I just tell him that he's ridiculous and that any food can be "fattening" if you eat too much of it, which he knows but, he's a diva when it comes to food.0
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Very often I eat higher calorie just because I understand what is in it. Mayo, for example.
Hellman's low fat "mayo dressing" 15 calories per tablespoon:
WATER, MODIFIED CORN STARCH*, SOYBEAN OIL, VINEGAR, HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP*, EGG WHITES, SALT, SUGAR, XANTHAM GUM*, LEMON AND LIME PEEL FIBERS*, COLORS ADDED*, LACTIC ACID*, (SODIUM BENZOATE*, CALCIUM DISODIUM EDTA), PHOSPHORIC ACID*, NATURAL FLAVORS.
I know it is 15 calories, but I just would not feel good while eating it. That does not fit my idea of what food is.
Spectrum canola mayo, 100 calories per tablespoon:
Expeller Pressed Canola Oil, Pasteurized Whole Eggs, Filtered Water, Honey, White Vinegar, Sea Salt, Dry Mustard, Lemon Juice Concentrate.
My body knows what oil is, my ancestors had it. Modified corn starch on the other hand... I don't know WTF they modified...
So what happens when your body encounters these unknown things like modified corn starch?
Also overfeeding on fat would make you fatter than carbs0 -
I eat everything low fat, only because I prefer it that way and because it is less calories.
To the OP though, people shouldn't comment on what you are eating, next time they do that, comment on what they are eating :laugh:0 -
Very often I eat higher calorie just because I understand what is in it. Mayo, for example.
Hellman's low fat "mayo dressing" 15 calories per tablespoon:
WATER, MODIFIED CORN STARCH*, SOYBEAN OIL, VINEGAR, HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP*, EGG WHITES, SALT, SUGAR, XANTHAM GUM*, LEMON AND LIME PEEL FIBERS*, COLORS ADDED*, LACTIC ACID*, (SODIUM BENZOATE*, CALCIUM DISODIUM EDTA), PHOSPHORIC ACID*, NATURAL FLAVORS.
I know it is 15 calories, but I just would not feel good while eating it. That does not fit my idea of what food is.
Spectrum canola mayo, 100 calories per tablespoon:
Expeller Pressed Canola Oil, Pasteurized Whole Eggs, Filtered Water, Honey, White Vinegar, Sea Salt, Dry Mustard, Lemon Juice Concentrate.
My body knows what oil is, my ancestors had it. Modified corn starch on the other hand... I don't know WTF they modified...
This.
I try not to eat anything that has ingredients I can't pronounce or recognize or possibly find in my own kitchen.0 -
My body knows what oil is, my ancestors had it.
Well... not really. I don't think your ancestor could have got oil from a rapeseed.0 -
Also overfeeding on fat would make you fatter than carbs
How do you figure this?0 -
Also overfeeding on fat would make you fatter than carbs
How do you figure this?
Overfeeding trials0 -
I only eat full fat, including yoghurt, whipped cream, etc. Just in moderation and I make sure I stay within the daily limit on MFP. It keeps me full and happy (it def. affects my mood, check with my family, lol). Someone here already said that overeating anything makes you fat... ain't that the truth! I prefer fat over sugar any time. Anyone watch "Hungry for Change"? I don't buy all of it, but the part about the diet industry is fascinating!0
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Very often I eat higher calorie just because I understand what is in it. Mayo, for example.
Hellman's low fat "mayo dressing" 15 calories per tablespoon:
WATER, MODIFIED CORN STARCH*, SOYBEAN OIL, VINEGAR, HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP*, EGG WHITES, SALT, SUGAR, XANTHAM GUM*, LEMON AND LIME PEEL FIBERS*, COLORS ADDED*, LACTIC ACID*, (SODIUM BENZOATE*, CALCIUM DISODIUM EDTA), PHOSPHORIC ACID*, NATURAL FLAVORS.
I know it is 15 calories, but I just would not feel good while eating it. That does not fit my idea of what food is.
Spectrum canola mayo, 100 calories per tablespoon:
Expeller Pressed Canola Oil, Pasteurized Whole Eggs, Filtered Water, Honey, White Vinegar, Sea Salt, Dry Mustard, Lemon Juice Concentrate.
My body knows what oil is, my ancestors had it. Modified corn starch on the other hand... I don't know WTF they modified...
This.
I try not to eat anything that has ingredients I can't pronounce or recognize or possibly find in my own kitchen.
If I don't know what something is, I ask Google. :smokin:0 -
This is always the silliest argument ever. Using that logic, you wouldn't be able to eat anything. If you actually saw the "ingredients list" of fruits and vegetables, you most likely wouldn't be able to pronounce any of them. But since it just says "apple" you pay it no attention. If the jar just said "low fat mayo" and didn't have an ingredients list, would you eat it then? After all, you wouldn't have to worry about pronouncing scientific names of common things found in foods...Very often I eat higher calorie just because I understand what is in it. Mayo, for example.
Hellman's low fat "mayo dressing" 15 calories per tablespoon:
WATER, MODIFIED CORN STARCH*, SOYBEAN OIL, VINEGAR, HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP*, EGG WHITES, SALT, SUGAR, XANTHAM GUM*, LEMON AND LIME PEEL FIBERS*, COLORS ADDED*, LACTIC ACID*, (SODIUM BENZOATE*, CALCIUM DISODIUM EDTA), PHOSPHORIC ACID*, NATURAL FLAVORS.
I know it is 15 calories, but I just would not feel good while eating it. That does not fit my idea of what food is.
Spectrum canola mayo, 100 calories per tablespoon:
Expeller Pressed Canola Oil, Pasteurized Whole Eggs, Filtered Water, Honey, White Vinegar, Sea Salt, Dry Mustard, Lemon Juice Concentrate.
My body knows what oil is, my ancestors had it. Modified corn starch on the other hand... I don't know WTF they modified...
This.
I try not to eat anything that has ingredients I can't pronounce or recognize or possibly find in my own kitchen.0 -
I suspect that one of the biggest, most pervasive health myths that has arisen in the last 30 years is the idea that eating fat results in you getting fat.
I think this fear of eating fat has helped drive the high-carb diet that most Americans consume.
It's exactly backwards of what we should be eating.
Except for sweets, the traditional food pyramid that they taught when I was in school is UPSIDE DOWN.0 -
I suspect that one of the biggest, most pervasive health myths that has arisen in the last 30 years is the idea that eating fat results in you getting fat.
I think this fear of eating fat has helped drive the high-carb diet that most Americans consume.
It's exactly backwards of what we should be eating.
Except for sweets, the traditional food pyramid that they taught when I was in school is UPSIDE DOWN.
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This is another argument I see a lot. Also false. Consumption of fats has almost doubled in the last 40 years, from 38 to 65 grams per day, while starches and grains have risen at a much slower rate (from 110 to 145 grams per day.) It's not what we eat that's the problem, it's the fact that we are eating much more in general (about 500 calories per day more in 2010 than in 1970) while becoming much less active due to the advances in technology.I suspect that one of the biggest, most pervasive health myths that has arisen in the last 30 years is the idea that eating fat results in you getting fat.
I think this fear of eating fat has helped drive the high-carb diet that most Americans consume.
It's exactly backwards of what we should be eating.
Except for sweets, the traditional food pyramid that they taught when I was in school is UPSIDE DOWN.
Oh, and before anyone jumps in with the "added sugars are causing all our troubles" argument, the consumption of added sugars has increased by a whopping 7 grams since 1970. That's about 2 teaspoons. In other words, all this fear mongering about the amount of added sugars we are eating is making us fat is bull, as we are eating about the same amount as we were in 1970, before all this obesity epidemic existed.0 -
^^ThisGreat job on the loss! I get it...it drives me crazy too but then when I feel like going off on a rampage about it I step back and think "I use to be one of the mis-informed, un-educated people too". It wasn't until I really got interested in the nutrition side of becoming healthier that I understood this concept. All we can do is bite our tongues and keep on keeping on with what we know works for us and hope that others will educate themselves.
I, too, get irritated by the comments I get from people about what I eat, but then think back to before I really began researching nutrition and remember that I was one of the ignorant ones too. Sometimes I try to explain and educate the person on my choices (in hopes that maybe they'll do some of their own research), or I'll just kind of nod and smile and continue on.0 -
This is another argument I see a lot. Also false. Consumption of fats has almost doubled in the last 40 years, from 38 to 65 grams per day, while starches and grains have risen at a much slower rate (from 110 to 145 grams per day.) It's not what we eat that's the problem, it's the fact that we are eating much more in general (about 500 calories per day more in 2010 than in 1970) while becoming much less active due to the advances in technology.
Oh, and before anyone jumps in with the "added sugars are causing all our troubles" argument, the consumption of added sugars has increased by a whopping 7 grams since 1970. That's about 2 teaspoons. In other words, all this fear mongering about the amount of added sugars we are eating is making us fat is bull, as we are eating about the same amount as we were in 1970, before all this obesity epidemic existed.
Americans in 1900 consumed about 5 pounds of sugar annually. Today that is over 100 pounds annually.
I don't disagree about over consumption in general, but if you eat natural, unprocessed foods you will find it more difficult to over consume as you just won't feel the need to consume it.0 -
^^ThisGreat job on the loss! I get it...it drives me crazy too but then when I feel like going off on a rampage about it I step back and think "I use to be one of the mis-informed, un-educated people too". It wasn't until I really got interested in the nutrition side of becoming healthier that I understood this concept. All we can do is bite our tongues and keep on keeping on with what we know works for us and hope that others will educate themselves.
I, too, get irritated by the comments I get from people about what I eat, but then think back to before I really began researching nutrition and remember that I was one of the ignorant ones too. Sometimes I try to explain and educate the person on my choices (in hopes that maybe they'll do some of their own research), or I'll just kind of nod and smile and continue on.
Exactly. If they seem interested I will try to explain it and encourage them to learn more. Otherwise I just say "Good luck" and move on.0 -
Do you have a source showing sugar consumption was that low? Because that's far lower than most western countries' sugar consumption in the 1800s, never mind going into the 20th century. Britain for example was consuming 100 pounds of sugar per person BY 1900.This is another argument I see a lot. Also false. Consumption of fats has almost doubled in the last 40 years, from 38 to 65 grams per day, while starches and grains have risen at a much slower rate (from 110 to 145 grams per day.) It's not what we eat that's the problem, it's the fact that we are eating much more in general (about 500 calories per day more in 2010 than in 1970) while becoming much less active due to the advances in technology.
Oh, and before anyone jumps in with the "added sugars are causing all our troubles" argument, the consumption of added sugars has increased by a whopping 7 grams since 1970. That's about 2 teaspoons. In other words, all this fear mongering about the amount of added sugars we are eating is making us fat is bull, as we are eating about the same amount as we were in 1970, before all this obesity epidemic existed.
Americans in 1900 consumed about 5 pounds of sugar annually. Today that is over 100 pounds annually.
I don't disagree about over consumption in general, but if you eat natural, unprocessed foods you will find it more difficult to over consume as you just won't feel the need to consume it.0 -
It is something I had always heard over the years. A quick Google turns up things like this:
http://www.wholevegan.com/refined_sugar_history.html
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20D10FF355414728DDDA90A94D1405B828CF1D3
http://missinghumanmanual.com/?tag=sugar
My numbers were off, but basically sugar consumption has doubled since 1900.
Compare sugar usage growth to the growth in obesity:
http://www.voxeu.org/article/100-years-us-obesity0 -
Half fat = half flavour.
I eat natural butter, thick cream, full fat yogurt but I do take skim milk in my (English) tea because I like to taste the tea.
Fat is not bad. Its the amount of it that you eat that can be bad.
Fat is natural - it comes from animals - that's what the cavemen ate. I'm not a fan of the Paleo way of eating, but I can see some sense in it.
The only fats I avoid like the proverbial plague are trans fats.0 -
I agree. If it's natural food, you can't go too wrong. Not that you can't overeat even natural foods, but you'll find it harder to do because you will be full longer eating them. And they are almost certainly healthier for you.0
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