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MeanderingMammal wrote: »mgalovic01 wrote: »MeanderingMammal wrote: »mgalovic01 wrote: »MeanderingMammal wrote: »EttaMaeMartin wrote: »mgalovic01 wrote: »Do intervals. Basically, walk, break into a run, then go back to walking or jogging, and repeat. Land on the front of your feet to absorb shock in your calves, not your joints.
running is supposed to be heel then toe, last time i checked!
Different people have different gaits. Forefoot landing, as the individual you responded to recommended, was very fashionable about three years ago. Research has indicated that it can lead to calf injury if it's not a natural gait for the individual.
In practice it's as bad thing to force an unnatural gait as anything else.
The advice you responded to is bad, because it's uninformed. The is nothing inherently wrong with forefoot, midfoot or heel striking.
How do you run again?
Generally for marathon and ultra marathon training...
I mean fore-foot, mid-foot, or heel?
How I run doesn't really matter, that's only important for me.
There is no One True Way(TM) as far as footstrike is concerned. Many different factors contribute to what's appropriate for the individual.
It's wholly irrelevant to the originator as the description of the situation is quite clearly an issue of aerobic capacity and pace.
That's what I thought.0 -
I take it you mean running in the street etc not on the treadmill I can run forever on the treadmill the streets are different as your carrying your weight but the distraction is still the same listen to music with a beat like a song that gets you hyper when I used to do 40 mine on the treadmill my mind would tell me at the 15 minute mark to quit when I got to 20 it was gone mind was by on track just block the negatives out think of what you lost weight wise that's what I do1
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I take it you mean running in the street etc not on the treadmill I can run forever on the treadmill the streets are different as your carrying your weight but the distraction is still the same listen to music with a beat like a song that gets you hyper when I used to do 40 mine on the treadmill my mind would tell me at the 15 minute mark to quit when I got to 20 it was gone mind was by on track just block the negatives out think of what you lost weight wise that's what I do0
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mgalovic01 wrote: »That's what I thought.
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I felt like that all through C25K and for a fair while afterwards. I took a long time to think 1-2 miles running was fairly easy, and I still often struggle for the first 10 minutes. Good suggestions above. Barring physical conditions, it depends I think, whether we want to persevere or find something we enjoy more.1
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I tried forcing the issue of running for quite some time...it's high impact and always bothered my already shoddy feet. While I was training for a sprint tri, I re-discovered my bike and a passion for cycling...I loath running...I don't run...I could probably knock out a 5K if I had to, albeit slowly...but I can ride at 16-18 MPH all day.
I'm of the opinion that one need not force an activity that one does not like...if running isn't right, do something else.3 -
MeanderingMammal wrote: »mgalovic01 wrote: »That's what I thought.
I'm intrigued.
Basically, another forefoot to mid-foot runner saying heel striking is ok for some other people. The truth is it's too much stress on the joints.0 -
mgalovic01 wrote: »MeanderingMammal wrote: »mgalovic01 wrote: »That's what I thought.
I'm intrigued.
Basically, another forefoot to mid-foot runner saying heel striking is ok for some other people. The truth is it's too much stress on the joints.
You're making a big assumption there.
Regardless, there is evidence that forcing a gait change causes injury, and there is also recent work that indicates that the majority of runners in endurance races are midfoot to heel strikers fairly quickly.
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cwolfman13 wrote: »I tried forcing the issue of running for quite some time...it's high impact and always bothered my already shoddy feet. While I was training for a sprint tri, I re-discovered my bike and a passion for cycling...I loath running...I don't run...I could probably knock out a 5K if I had to, albeit slowly...but I can ride at 16-18 MPH all day.
I'm of the opinion that one need not force an activity that one does not like...if running isn't right, do something else.
In the case of the OP, though, it sounds like she emotionally enjoys it and just is having physical problems with it, though.
This was my case. I had always wanted to run, and loved the idea of it. I just had a lot of physical hurdles to get past.
Dewd's post was spot-on. Since I like to live on the edge, I'm going to weigh in on the foot-striking debate and agree with MeanderingMammal. Especially since I think most supposed heel strikers are really striking with more of their foot than just the heel itself unless they're overstriding, which is a different problem.
Saying that, I'm a mid-foot striker.1 -
MeanderingMammal wrote: »mgalovic01 wrote: »MeanderingMammal wrote: »mgalovic01 wrote: »That's what I thought.
I'm intrigued.
Basically, another forefoot to mid-foot runner saying heel striking is ok for some other people. The truth is it's too much stress on the joints.
You're making a big assumption there.
Regardless, there is evidence that forcing a gait change causes injury, and there is also recent work that indicates that the majority of runners in endurance races are midfoot to heel strikers fairly quickly.
Tell me I'm wrong. You and I both know it doesn't work for us. It's rookie mistake.
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mgalovic01 wrote: »MeanderingMammal wrote: »mgalovic01 wrote: »MeanderingMammal wrote: »mgalovic01 wrote: »That's what I thought.
I'm intrigued.
Basically, another forefoot to mid-foot runner saying heel striking is ok for some other people. The truth is it's too much stress on the joints.
You're making a big assumption there.
Regardless, there is evidence that forcing a gait change causes injury, and there is also recent work that indicates that the majority of runners in endurance races are midfoot to heel strikers fairly quickly.
Tell me I'm wrong. You and I both know it doesn't work for us. It's rookie mistake.
You're wrong.
About many things.0 -
MeanderingMammal wrote: »mgalovic01 wrote: »MeanderingMammal wrote: »mgalovic01 wrote: »MeanderingMammal wrote: »mgalovic01 wrote: »That's what I thought.
I'm intrigued.
Basically, another forefoot to mid-foot runner saying heel striking is ok for some other people. The truth is it's too much stress on the joints.
You're making a big assumption there.
Regardless, there is evidence that forcing a gait change causes injury, and there is also recent work that indicates that the majority of runners in endurance races are midfoot to heel strikers fairly quickly.
Tell me I'm wrong. You and I both know it doesn't work for us. It's rookie mistake.
You're wrong.
About many things.
So you're a heel striker?0 -
mgalovic01 wrote: »MeanderingMammal wrote: »mgalovic01 wrote: »MeanderingMammal wrote: »mgalovic01 wrote: »MeanderingMammal wrote: »mgalovic01 wrote: »That's what I thought.
I'm intrigued.
Basically, another forefoot to mid-foot runner saying heel striking is ok for some other people. The truth is it's too much stress on the joints.
You're making a big assumption there.
Regardless, there is evidence that forcing a gait change causes injury, and there is also recent work that indicates that the majority of runners in endurance races are midfoot to heel strikers fairly quickly.
Tell me I'm wrong. You and I both know it doesn't work for us. It's rookie mistake.
You're wrong.
About many things.
So you're a heel striker?
What part of the world are you from? What's your next race? I'd love to run with you sometime just to observe the various styles and techniques runners use. You may be amazed to learn that there is no one true way to run. Just like most things in life, there's more than one way to get the desired result.
FWIW - My next big race will be the Pittsburgh Marathon. Come join me.2 -
mgalovic01 wrote: »MeanderingMammal wrote: »mgalovic01 wrote: »MeanderingMammal wrote: »mgalovic01 wrote: »MeanderingMammal wrote: »mgalovic01 wrote: »That's what I thought.
I'm intrigued.
Basically, another forefoot to mid-foot runner saying heel striking is ok for some other people. The truth is it's too much stress on the joints.
You're making a big assumption there.
Regardless, there is evidence that forcing a gait change causes injury, and there is also recent work that indicates that the majority of runners in endurance races are midfoot to heel strikers fairly quickly.
Tell me I'm wrong. You and I both know it doesn't work for us. It's rookie mistake.
You're wrong.
About many things.
So you're a heel striker?
What part of the world are you from? What's your next race? I'd love to run with you sometime just to observe the various styles and techniques runners use. You may be amazed to learn that there is no one true way to run. Just like most things in life, there's more than one way to get the desired result.
FWIW - My next big race will be the Pittsburgh Marathon. Come join me.
Well, I wasn't wrong about that. No doubt there are lots of ways to run, but if you're striking the ground with your heel, you got a problem.
BTW, I don't see any heel strikers chiming in saying I've been striking the ground with my heel for years without any problems. I wonder why that is.0 -
Thanks all.. I've gone to run shop lady fitted me with better fitting shoes.. my feet twist in and out so she had to get shoes to support both sides and ones to fit how wide my feet are.
I'm looking forward to trying out these new trainers and follow as much of your advise given.. I don't particularly fancy the idea of not running cause I enjoy the mind space it gives me. Hopefully when I'm not as fat it will get more comfortable for me.. wish me luck x0
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