Keto Question about Weight Loss

stevencloser

alienws1998 wrote: »

Again I will prove it, I've offered to go the whole day without any more calories and no one seems willing to take me up on the bet, let's go the other direction. I can end my day well over calories, let's say 5K? But it will be with nothing but coconut oil which has no carbs. Even though I'll be well out of deficit and into a surplus of over a thousand calories I'm betting I LOSE weight. When I'm right you guys agree to never post, reply or otherwise use the community forums. Agreed?

Let me make you a counter challenge. I'll prove to you that water makes you fat by weighing myself, then drinking a few liters and eating nothing at all. Behold! I gained 5 pounds!

Psychgrrl

alienws1998 wrote: »

So I magically managed to be in a calorie deficit despite not watching my calories at all, only monitoring my carbs with a very inactive life style these days. Wow with luck like that I should go to Vegas and hit a craps table! I've been doing this for 6 months, I must be the luckiest man alive I'll go buy a powerball ticket I mean if I can manage to be under the number I don't even know what is consistently enough for 180 + days without paying attention to calories eating mostly red meat and eggs using cheese and coconut oil all of which are low carb but pretty high cal that powerball ticket should make me a millionaire. Ever heard of Achm's Razor? Which do you think is more likely that by some fluke I've been running in a calorie deficit for that long by accident with an inactive lifestyle and a middle aged metabolism (I'm 35, so no awesome teenage metabolism going for me) and eating plenty of high fat high calorie foods or that carbs have more impact than you seem to believe? I don't wanna argue with you anymore, I'm willing go not eat for the rest of the day to prove my point.

Sure, you don't have to count calories to lose weight, you just need to be in a deficit. I know quite a good people who have lost or maintain a healthy weight without ever counting calories. I was not one of those people.

Though after a couple years of counting calories, in maintenance, I have not been as strict with weighing everything and am maintaining just fine. Maybe I have learned how to eyeball, but I think it's more than habits I developed during weight-loss about changing how I eat have done it. I eat lots more veggies, am more conscious about while grains, focus on lean protein, eat fruit and yogurt, plan my meals so I'm intentional with what I eat, don't deprive myself of favorite foods, and discovered Halo Top ice cream.

I think your success is great and am not maligning it in anyway. I hope everyone finds something that works for them the way you (and I) have. Though what worked for either of us may not work for the next person. I vehemently disagree with the philosophy of demonizing certain foods, ingredients or asserting there is only one way to eat to lose weight. Limiting or eliminating certain foods may help people stop over-eating and thus help them achieve a caloric deficit, but limiting them will not magically create weight loss without a caloric deficit.

Just please stop with the "l'm not eating anything else today to prove a point." An "n" of one doesn't prove anything, especially regarding the human body and it's fluctuations. And it's unnecessary, unhealthy and represents the behavior of a 5-year-old as opposed to a 35 year old.

SideSteel

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3302369/

"The development of obesity by necessity requires positive energy imbalance over and above that required for normal growth and development."

"The counterpart of excess weight gain is a negative energy balance leading to weight loss over time."


http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2016/07/05/ajcn.116.133561.abstract
"The isocaloric KD was not accompanied by increased body fat loss"


^ Actual science ^

AdamAthletic

Thread back open, cleaned and back on subject.
Please, please lets keep it that way!

Enjoy.

Adam, MyFitnessPal Moderator

Christine_72

I woke up this morning to all of these questions from @alienws1998 , who i hope is still reading...

FTR i have done low carb and then Keto, and I thoroughly enjoyed it! Yes, the weight dropped off without much effort, but i also counted calories along with carbs. My appetite lowered dramatically,and along with that so did my calories, my cravings also disappeared... hence weight loss ensued.
Bottom line, It was much easier to stay in a deficit on low carb.

sijomial

1.7lbs lost in 10 days is fine - my advice would be to be more patient and think long term not week to week.