Is sugar bad for you?

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  • CycleGuy9000
    CycleGuy9000 Posts: 290
    There is absolutely NO food out there that is "necessary" for us to eat. We always have choices. Eat enough food to give you adequate energy while providing appropriate nutrition. Sugar is easy to fit into your diet, even when losing body fat.

    What? YES there are foods that are necessary for you to eat or you will die.

    Which ones? It can't possibly be t-bones because I haven't had one in a long time. I eat more ground beef than anything. There are lots of different foods that I have never eaten, yet I manage to get adequate nutrition.

    Please enlighten me. Now I am dying to know. :laugh:

    :huh: Food contains nutrients, the main classes are carbohydrates, fats, minerals, protein, vitamins, and water. You need some of all of these or you can develop a deficiency disease or chronic systemic disease and die as a result. Food is defined as: any nourishing substance that is eaten, drunk, or otherwise taken into the body to sustain life, provide energy, promote growth, etc.
    You EAT ground beef that contains PROTEIN and FAT which is NECESSARY for your body to sustain life. It's not the foods you
    "have never eaten" it's the ones you already do that give you "adequate nutrition".

    Aha!~

    Now you seem to get what I am saying. You can choose to get your nutrients from any food. That's what I meant by saying we have choices. Sugar is one choice that can be made. Sugar is pure carbohydrates, with no micronutrients. :bigsmile:
    :yawn:

    It's not what you said in the beginning so you can try to fix and update it now all you want but it doesn't change what you typed, I can only read what you type, I can't read your mind. If you're going to state something or argue a point try being more exact.
  • CycleGuy9000
    CycleGuy9000 Posts: 290
    There is absolutely NO food out there that is "necessary" for us to eat. We always have choices. Eat enough food to give you adequate energy while providing appropriate nutrition. Sugar is easy to fit into your diet, even when losing body fat.

    What? YES there are foods that are necessary for you to eat or you will die.

    No. There are nutrients we need to stay alive. But there is no one single food that is necessary for life.

    No one said "one single food" in these statements above besides you.

    It says "NO food" Singular. And it's true.

    I knew you would try and argue this and you're wrong. In the grammatical sense and in the context of her statement "There is absolutely NO food out there that is "necessary" for us to eat." "food" is plural because it does not state that it is not, it does not say (single food). Example: Person A asks: what did you eat for lunch? Person B says: I ate food. Therefore "food" can refer to an entire meal made up of anything like fruits, veggies, meats, and rice all together which would be more than one.

    Or they could have had a t-bone and nothing else for lunch. But even if it is plural what food or foods do you think are necessary. Not what nutrient(s) from food or foods. What food or foods?

    :drinker: Rum!!! :bigsmile:
  • CycleGuy9000
    CycleGuy9000 Posts: 290
    You know what? There isn't one single food you need to eat by itself that is necessary but many people think we need to eat some sugar in our diet, that it is necessary. The point I'm making is that it is not necessary but it's also not bad to do so.
  • LisaDunn01
    LisaDunn01 Posts: 173 Member
    Here are some books and sites to look into:

    Nancy Appleton - 147 Reasons Sugar RUINS Your Health
    www.nancyappleton.com
    Dr. Weston A. Price - Nutrition & Degeneration
    www.westonaprice.org
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    You know what? There isn't one single food you need to eat by itself that is necessary but many people think we need to eat some sugar in our diet, that it is necessary. The point I'm making is that it is not necessary but it's also not bad to do so.

    The only thing that I had against what you said was that you said sugar has no nutritional value... which is not correct. The body uses sugar, therefore, it has value. It can easily be overdone, yes. But that doesn't mean that it doesn't serve a purpose.
  • mmm_drop
    mmm_drop Posts: 1,126 Member
    What's with the sugar insanity recently? I'm perplexed.
  • KANGOOJUMPS
    KANGOOJUMPS Posts: 6,474 Member
    hell no, its sweet on and for you,
    ha
  • JKardeno
    JKardeno Posts: 24 Member
    In sensible amounts, sugar is fine,
  • tsh0ck
    tsh0ck Posts: 1,970 Member
    This is a little ridiculous.

    Trying to justify sugar in a diet is like trying to justify cheating on a spouse because you're bored or hurt.

    Yeah, there are "reasons" for it, but nothing good comes of it.


    uh .... whut?
  • tsh0ck
    tsh0ck Posts: 1,970 Member
    You know what? There isn't one single food you need to eat by itself that is necessary but many people think we need to eat some sugar in our diet, that it is necessary. The point I'm making is that it is not necessary but it's also not bad to do so.

    The only thing that I had against what you said was that you said sugar has no nutritional value... which is not correct. The body uses sugar, therefore, it has value. It can easily be overdone, yes. But that doesn't mean that it doesn't serve a purpose.

    yup. the body uses it for fuel, so great to use right before a tough workout. the brain also functions on, primarily, various forms of sugar.
  • My grandma died of diabetes. She wasn't overweight but I remember being little and she'd put sugar in just about everything she ate, like tons of it. She would give me a tomato and a jar of sugar so I could dip it in and eat it as a snack, I used to love it. When she died I developed a strong fear of sugar. I'm even afraid to eat fruits, kind of dumb. Thanks for your post, I'll try to do more research and have a clearer view on sugar.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    All I know is that after a long, arduous hike...a looonnngggg run, putting some miles on the old bicycle...swimming a mile or so...well, Jelly Beans are great for recovery is all I'm sayin'
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    My grandma died of diabetes. She wasn't overweight but I remember being little and she'd put sugar in just about everything she ate, like tons of it. She would give me a tomato and a jar of sugar so I could dip it in and eat it as a snack, I used to love it. When she died I developed a strong fear of sugar. I'm even afraid to eat fruits, kind of dumb. Thanks for your post, I'll try to do more research and have a clearer view on sugar.

    A dentist tried to explain to me once that the body can only tolerate so much sugar in one's lifetime. However, I don't think this is true because people can recover from a pre-diabetic state and never actually develop diabetes. I think its more that there is a limit that the body can tolerate within a certain time frame. For most people, it is probably enough just not to add sugar to every meal. But the occassional sugary treat isn't really going to put you over the top either.

    I know people that add sugar to everything. I just don't get that. Savory foods, sour foods, and bitter foods all have their own section of taste buds... therefore, not everything is meant to be sweet! :noway:
  • _HeartsOnFire_
    _HeartsOnFire_ Posts: 5,304 Member
    This is a little ridiculous.


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  • DebbieLyn63
    DebbieLyn63 Posts: 2,654 Member
    Sugar is not at all necessary for us to eat, it has no significant nutritional value however it is not bad for you either. The reason sugar gets a bad rap is because it contains a lot of calories and carbs in a small amount with no significant nutritional value. Sugar does not cause diabetes, the over consumption of products that have a lot of sugar added to them which are high calorie items like cakes, pies, and cinnamon rolls lead to becoming overweight and obese can lead to diabetes and other health problems, it's the being overweight that is linked to it. I am not a doctor or nutritionist so I encourage you to do your own research as I have or you can take my word for it, the majority of the research shows sugar itself is not bad for you so don't worry if you go over the suggested daily limit a little as long as you're not taking in more calories than you're burning and you're maintaining a healthy weight with a balanced nutritional diet.

    You can eliminate everything but the bolded text.
  • keem88
    keem88 Posts: 1,689 Member
    eh in moderation it's fine. i would take real sugar over that fake chemical crap any day of the week
  • keem88
    keem88 Posts: 1,689 Member
    All I know is that after a long, arduous hike...a looonnngggg run, putting some miles on the old bicycle...swimming a mile or so...well, Jelly Beans are great for recovery is all I'm sayin'

    :drinker:

    after we go climbing on mountain ridges we usually eat a bunch of pizza, or chinese and then usually something for dessert like ice cream or we make a cheesecake. a lot of times it is reduced sugar because my sister is a type 1 diabetic, so we will make a separate dessert for her. the rest of us go to town after 3 hours of climbing lol
  • CycleGuy9000
    CycleGuy9000 Posts: 290
    You know what? There isn't one single food you need to eat by itself that is necessary but many people think we need to eat some sugar in our diet, that it is necessary. The point I'm making is that it is not necessary but it's also not bad to do so.

    The only thing that I had against what you said was that you said sugar has no nutritional value... which is not correct. The body uses sugar, therefore, it has value. It can easily be overdone, yes. But that doesn't mean that it doesn't serve a purpose.

    yup. the body uses it for fuel, so great to use right before a tough workout. the brain also functions on, primarily, various forms of sugar.

    The sugar your body uses is called glucose which the body makes from fats, protein and carbohydrates but you don't need to eat actual sugar or sugar in products because your body makes it out of the things you eat. Your brain uses quite a bit of glucose to function, if you don't have enough of it your mental faculties can become impaired like memory.
  • CycleGuy9000
    CycleGuy9000 Posts: 290
    Sugar is not at all necessary for us to eat, it has no significant nutritional value however it is not bad for you either. The reason sugar gets a bad rap is because it contains a lot of calories and carbs in a small amount with no significant nutritional value. Sugar does not cause diabetes, the over consumption of products that have a lot of sugar added to them which are high calorie items like cakes, pies, and cinnamon rolls lead to becoming overweight and obese can lead to diabetes and other health problems, it's the being overweight that is linked to it. I am not a doctor or nutritionist so I encourage you to do your own research as I have or you can take my word for it, the majority of the research shows sugar itself is not bad for you so don't worry if you go over the suggested daily limit a little as long as you're not taking in more calories than you're burning and you're maintaining a healthy weight with a balanced nutritional diet.

    You can eliminate everything but the bolded text.

    What exactly are you trying to say?
  • CycleGuy9000
    CycleGuy9000 Posts: 290
    My grandma died of diabetes. She wasn't overweight but I remember being little and she'd put sugar in just about everything she ate, like tons of it. She would give me a tomato and a jar of sugar so I could dip it in and eat it as a snack, I used to love it. When she died I developed a strong fear of sugar. I'm even afraid to eat fruits, kind of dumb. Thanks for your post, I'll try to do more research and have a clearer view on sugar.

    You're welcome, that's why after lots of research I decided to post this topic because I was also afraid of sugar and if I ate it then I would eventually develop diabetes, I was afraid to eat fruit too! It's not bad as long as you don't eat to much at once, you eat other things of nutritious value, and you don't consume more calories than you use (let it lead you to being overweight).
  • Dechant63
    Dechant63 Posts: 59
    I try not to eat "sugar added" foods. But I don't pay much attention to my sugar I take when it's just from fruits.
  • DebbieLyn63
    DebbieLyn63 Posts: 2,654 Member
    My grandma died of diabetes. She wasn't overweight but I remember being little and she'd put sugar in just about everything she ate, like tons of it. She would give me a tomato and a jar of sugar so I could dip it in and eat it as a snack, I used to love it. When she died I developed a strong fear of sugar. I'm even afraid to eat fruits, kind of dumb. Thanks for your post, I'll try to do more research and have a clearer view on sugar.

    You're welcome, that's why after lots of research I decided to post this topic because I was also afraid of sugar and if I ate it then I would eventually develop diabetes, I was afraid to eat fruit too! It's not bad as long as you don't eat to much at once, you eat other things of nutritious value, and you don't consume more calories than you use (let it lead you to being overweight).

    Did you miss the part about her grandmother NOT being overweight?

    There are people who are severely overweight that don't have diabetes. There are people who have always been a healthy weight, that do have diabetes. Being overweight increases your risk of developing it, but won't automatically mean that you will get it.
    Nor does simply staying within a healthy weight, mean that you will never get it.

    Diabetes is a very complicated disease, and there are no cut and dried reasons why some people get it and some people don't. You just cant make a blanket statement that excess sugar never causes it, or that being overweight always causes it.
    There are just too many factors that determine whether or not a person will develop it.

    If a person is at high risk for developing it, then they might need to keep an eye on their overall carb levels, especially sugar and simple carbs that break down quickly in their bodies, and overtax their pancreas. Every dr agrees with this.

    The debate over sugar will continue to go on in these forums, because people are different, and their 'truth' is often based on their own experiences and of those around them. Even top medical professionals do not always agree on every theory of what causes diabetes. They are constantly learning more and different things about it.

    You just have to find what works for YOU.
  • Fithealthyforlife
    Fithealthyforlife Posts: 866 Member
    Too much sugar absorbed fast and eaten regularly is definitely bad for you over time, because it produces a constant condition of hyperglycemia. That's why high fructose corn syrup is labeled "bad" for us. It has lots of fructose, which is a fast-metabolizing sugar. If you just ate a tiny bit of it, no problem. But fructose is a quick-absorbing sugar, and goes right into certain metabolic pathways. Glucose can overload your system, too. It just takes a bit more of it at one time to produce a similar efffect.

    The best advice I've seen is to eat sugars along with other things that slow absorbtion, such as fiber. For example, if you have to eat that candy bar, eating some bran cereal with lots of fiber at the same time can help balance it out. That's why fruits are good for us...even though they have lots of fructose, they also have fibers.
  • zyxst
    zyxst Posts: 9,149 Member
    My consumption of sugar keeps me from killing people, so I'd say sugar is necessary to live. :laugh:
  • nevergiveup51
    nevergiveup51 Posts: 48 Member
    Is sugar in the raw better than white sugar my husband is a diabetic and we use a lot of splenda but I heard that is bad for you too, which one is the best overall
  • pluckabee
    pluckabee Posts: 346 Member
    Well... actually...

    Muscles use sugar first for energy. So there is a nutritional purpose for it.

    IN for the ridiculous condemnation of sugar!

    Your body uses alcohol first for energy before anything else. Does that mean it has a nutritional purpose?
  • pluckabee
    pluckabee Posts: 346 Member

    And the brain is about 80% glucose..or some other random, yet high, percent.

    ??? Is this a joke?

    Your brain is made primarily of fat.