Increasing calcium without increasing sodium.
cmtigger
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I've got kidney stone problems and need to increase my calcium, but also lower my sodium. (And stay low oxalate)
Any food ideas?
Any food ideas?
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My hot tip on products these days is Chobani greek yoghurt.
170 gram cup of the Strawberry flavour has 14 grams of protein, 531 kilojoules, and only 55 mg of sodium.1 -
Kale, spinach, broccoli raab, okra, swiss chard, spinach0
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Calcium tablets?1
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trigden1991 wrote: »Calcium tablets?
Probably not,with kidney stones1 -
comptonelizabeth wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »Calcium tablets?
Probably not,with kidney stones
Pardon my ignorance but what impact does this have? Wouldn't any increase in calcium cause issues? What is inherently bad about the tablets?2 -
comptonelizabeth wrote: »
Yes. Low sodium dairy products are probably my best bet.1 -
Taking that much calcium at one time increases the amount in your urine, which can cause more stones to form.trigden1991 wrote: »comptonelizabeth wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »Calcium tablets?
Probably not,with kidney stones
Pardon my ignorance but what impact does this have? Wouldn't any increase in calcium cause issues? What is inherently bad about the tablets?
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I should add, I went shopping yesterday and picked up yogurt, milk, cottage cheese, and cheese sticks. I always have felt like I'm getting a lot of dairy, but my stats aren't saying what I thought.1
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tofu or white beans0
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I wish it was that easy. Those are also high in oxalates.Need2Exerc1se wrote: »tofu or white beans
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I wish it was that easy. Those are also high in oxalates.Need2Exerc1se wrote: »tofu or white beans
Have you considered asking the physician that is treating the condition?0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
I wish it was that easy. Those are also high in oxalates.Need2Exerc1se wrote: »tofu or white beans
Have you considered asking the physician that is treating the condition?
He gave me lists of high oxalate foods, and the goals for sodium, potassium and calcium. So I'm working on figuring out how to hit calcium without going over sodium.0 -
http://kidneystones.uchicago.edu/how-to-eat-a-low-oxalate-diet/
DAIRY PRODUCTS
They have no oxalate. They are your main source of calcium. Use them. They can add a lot of salt – cheeses – and can be caloric. But they reduce oxalate absorption and preserve your bones.
For a stone former who has to watch salt intake, increase calcium intake, and lower oxalate intake, here is how to do that. You cannot have as much cheese as you want because of the salt. So portion sizes are very important. Yogurt, milk, even ice cream are good bargains – modest sodium and high calcium. These are a great place to add in a wee bit of chocolate – high oxalate foods – for those of you who cannot live without these high oxalate treats.
Salmon may also be a good choice.
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »http://kidneystones.uchicago.edu/how-to-eat-a-low-oxalate-diet/
DAIRY PRODUCTS
They have no oxalate. They are your main source of calcium. Use them. They can add a lot of salt – cheeses – and can be caloric. But they reduce oxalate absorption and preserve your bones.
For a stone former who has to watch salt intake, increase calcium intake, and lower oxalate intake, here is how to do that. You cannot have as much cheese as you want because of the salt. So portion sizes are very important. Yogurt, milk, even ice cream are good bargains – modest sodium and high calcium. These are a great place to add in a wee bit of chocolate – high oxalate foods – for those of you who cannot live without these high oxalate treats.
Salmon may also be a good choice.
Yes. I know about that page. But note that salt is an issue.
But it is the best I've found out there so far.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »http://kidneystones.uchicago.edu/how-to-eat-a-low-oxalate-diet/
DAIRY PRODUCTS
They have no oxalate. They are your main source of calcium. Use them. They can add a lot of salt – cheeses – and can be caloric. But they reduce oxalate absorption and preserve your bones.
For a stone former who has to watch salt intake, increase calcium intake, and lower oxalate intake, here is how to do that. You cannot have as much cheese as you want because of the salt. So portion sizes are very important. Yogurt, milk, even ice cream are good bargains – modest sodium and high calcium. These are a great place to add in a wee bit of chocolate – high oxalate foods – for those of you who cannot live without these high oxalate treats.
Salmon may also be a good choice.
Yes. I know about that page. But note that salt is an issue.
But it is the best I've found out there so far.
I know, that's why I quoted the section with advice on low sodium and high calcium.0 -
trigden1991 wrote: »comptonelizabeth wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »Calcium tablets?
Probably not,with kidney stones
Pardon my ignorance but what impact does this have? Wouldn't any increase in calcium cause issues? What is inherently bad about the tablets?
All I can tell you is that I take calcium supplements for osteoporosis and on the label it says to avoid if you have a history of kidney stones.
I think a lot of it doesn't get absorbed (in fact it's probably pretty useless for osteoporosis tbh). But I have to confess - I don't know!0 -
Wow, what a nightmare! I've had kidney stones twice in my life (and it seems if you have them once, you are prone to have them again). The key I was given is that my water intake needed to increase dramatically to help flush the kidneys properly. I did note that my fluid intake had been lower than it should be for some time before I had issues from pain with the stones. (As kidney stones ARE calcium, I would have thought the idea would be to reduce rather than increase it in your diet!!??) From looking at the charts on high oxalate foods, you cannot eat anything much at all!!! I would in all seriousness, get another opinion from another urologist before trying to get by with the minimal foods your do's and don'ts list leaves you with!!! In the meantime, drink heaps of water!!!!0
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I'd also stick to foods that have high fibre content as the body takes more time to work its way through the fibre to get to the sugars, salts, and other goodies. As such, the absorption rate is reduced, and the fibre does wonders to keep you regular!0
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Have a good read of this (which is linked in previous folk's replies), all the way to the end of the article! THIS, to me makes way more sense than purely looking for a shopping list of very specific foods. http://kidneystones.uchicago.edu/how-to-eat-a-low-oxalate-diet/0
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Have a good read of this (which is linked in previous folk's replies), all the way to the end of the article! THIS, to me makes way more sense than purely looking for a shopping list of very specific foods. http://kidneystones.uchicago.edu/how-to-eat-a-low-oxalate-diet/
I've already mentioned that I've been working off that website and lists my doctor gave me.
But yeah, the diet is limited, it has been for years, but the stones came back and after blood and urine tests this is what we're going with, then testing again in a few months. It's a nephrologist, not a urologist. I drink plenty of water but also am working on trying to drink 3 liters a day, up from two.1 -
Wow, what a nightmare! I've had kidney stones twice in my life (and it seems if you have them once, you are prone to have them again). The key I was given is that my water intake needed to increase dramatically to help flush the kidneys properly. I did note that my fluid intake had been lower than it should be for some time before I had issues from pain with the stones. (As kidney stones ARE calcium, I would have thought the idea would be to reduce rather than increase it in your diet!!??) From looking at the charts on high oxalate foods, you cannot eat anything much at all!!! I would in all seriousness, get another opinion from another urologist before trying to get by with the minimal foods your do's and don'ts list leaves you with!!! In the meantime, drink heaps of water!!!!
If you are taking in too much oxalate and insufficient calcium it causes calcium levels in your blood to rise making kidney stones more of a risk. This is what I was told at the osteoporosis clinic.
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Every strength to you @cmtigger and thanks for that insight @comptonelizabeth1
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