Why do some people up here make it seem like eating fried foods are bad?
dniania
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I've read through lots of posts over these past two weeks about food and a few are shaming sweets and fried foods and I feel like as long as I'm not over my calorie limit I'm okay... I try to eat right most of the time lol but since I've been on the app almost three weeks I've had pancakes,candy,potatoes chips,fried chicken and fish.. pizza...as well as healthy foods such as oatmeal ,eggs,salad,water vegetables I eat what I want as long as I don't go over ... I know abs are made in the kitchen so am I wrong for eating what I want as long as my calories are over and as long as I'm not eating after 8pm ...I want to lose weight the right way and so far i have gone over my calorie limit yet but I'm starting to feel like maybe I shouldn't eat what I want??
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You're doing it right.
ETA- Meal timing doesn't matter... you can eat past 8.12 -
I personally don't eat them because I find them to be atrocious. Doesn't mean they're going to wreck your weightloss assuming that they fit into your calorie goals for loss though.
One thing though: do still try to avoid stuff fried in trans fats. They're almost all but banished these days, but a few places do still use them.3 -
You're right, except for not eating after 8. Unless you have sleeping issues from eating late, there's no need to have a cutoff. Many people find it easier to reach their goals by eating more nutritious foods.
Calories are king. How you get there is up to you. I'm having garlic bread with dinner tonight and I'll still have room for some gelato for dessert.0 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »You're doing it right.
ETA- Meal timing doesn't matter... you can eat past 8.
Thank you
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You are right except about the 8pm thing. There is nothing magic about what time the clock says.
Having said that...
I TRY to end my eating before 8pm simply because I sleep better if I haven't eaten for a couple of hours...especially foods that are on the heavier side.
Some people like shame others if others eat differently than they do. Make up your own mind about how you want to eat. Later on you might change some things...I certainly did.
I eat a really healthy diet for the most part...because I choose to. That doesn't mean that someone else has to make that choice.3 -
I don't eat a ton of fried foods because they can be difficult to figure the calories, and they are just too messy and I don't like to cook messy things. I eat whatever I like that fits my calorie goal. I don't consider any foods good or bad. It sounds to me like you are doing what works for you. Just stick to that and don't worry about what others think or do.5
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There's some people who seem to thrive off of labeling foods good/bad, clean/unclean, 'junk' etc etc. Those people I tend to ignore because I think labeling food is arbitrary and also labeling is a slippery slope to an unhealthy relationship with food. However some foods like fried foods are fairly calorie dense, so if someone is recommending cutting back on fried foods, or foods that contain a lot of added sugar because they're calorie bombs, I think that's solid advice, especially when someone is trying to lose weight.
But OP it sounds like you're doing things the right way and are hitting your calorie targets so don't let others opinions get you down and just focus on rocking your own goals
Also-meal timing/frequency is a preference thing and doesn't matter in terms of weight loss, though I also don't eat in the evening because I tend to mindless snack/rack up calories very quickly.2 -
I stay away from fried foods because I'm trying to get my cholesterol down. Losing weight is a secondary goal for me so I am more likely to choose from a list of foods that are known to lower cholesterol. I still eat the things you mentioned in your post, but they find their way to my mouth less often than they did 3 months ago.4
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I label them as bad because i can't eat them1
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Fried food give me bad stomach pain2
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I don't think fried foods are bad, but they make it a lot harder to stay on track to calorie goals. Nothing makes that hit home for me like entering French fries in my food diary vs me slicing a potato and baking them as my alternative.6
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Fried foods are OK but tend to be more calorie dense than a grilled or baked equivalent, so it really depends if you can fit those calories in your diary without sacrificing other nutritious foods.
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Fried foods = empty calories1
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »
'cept, you know, sugar water. The phrase "empty calories", and I know you know, is meant to describe the absence of essential (not created in the human body) nutrients. Fried foods deliver some fat and properly chicken-fried anything includes milk, eggs, and flour along with the anything, a win for all macros.0 -
I've read through lots of posts over these past two weeks about food and a few are shaming sweets and fried foods and I feel like as long as I'm not over my calorie limit I'm okay... I try to eat right most of the time lol but since I've been on the app almost three weeks I've had pancakes,candy,potatoes chips,fried chicken and fish.. pizza...as well as healthy foods such as oatmeal ,eggs,salad,water vegetables I eat what I want as long as I don't go over ... I know abs are made in the kitchen so am I wrong for eating what I want as long as my calories are over and as long as I'm not eating after 8pm ...I want to lose weight the right way and so far i have gone over my calorie limit yet but I'm starting to feel like maybe I shouldn't eat what I want??
Fried foods and sweets are fine in moderation. However, as someone drops calories to lose weight they should also be especially concerned about getting adequate nutrients. In most cases this means someone on a lower calorie diet needs to somewhat restrict food items that are calorie dense and low nutritional value.
I took a look at your food log going back a week or so. Very fruits and vegetables were listed. You may want to up you intake of nutritionally dense foods like these and back off a bit on the more calorie dense items to get to your calorie goal. Because of the fiber in fruits and vegetables you may very well feel fuller on fewer calories while eating a more nutritious diet.
The following discusses recommendations for fruit and vegetable consumption:
http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/usda-fruit-vegetable-recommendations-9339.html
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k9education wrote: »I've read through lots of posts over these past two weeks about food and a few are shaming sweets and fried foods and I feel like as long as I'm not over my calorie limit I'm okay
While you may get slightly better weight loss/gain results by eating a healthy, balanced diet due to the effects certain foods will have on blood sugars, metabolism, etc. the short of it is that calories are still king when it comes to weight control. You will still lose/gain if you live off fried chicken and donuts as long as you stay within your calorie goals. Just be sure to account for the oil when eating fried foods. It is estimated that 8-25% of the oil used will be absorbed into your food. As far as the effects on one's health, that's an entirely different discussion and one that is rarely of any concern to most here.
Not a good thing.2 -
Nutrition timing matters if you are for example, going to train hard, empty calories do exist.
But for your question, I mostly try to eat nutrient dense food, fried? Not really cos oil= around 114 calories per tbsp.1 -
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I look at all possible foods I can eat in a day and consider how filling it will be for the calories, because not feeling hungry is important for me. So I would avoid fried food in favour of something that would not mean I had to eat a lower volume of food overall than I would prefer.3
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there are no good and bad foods (or good or bad times to eat).
However, the calories in fried foods don't offer much nutritionally. And as an occasional treat or splurge - isnt a bad thing. But when you are at a low calorie limit, it becomes harder, and more important, to eat calories that offer you what you need nutritionally and for energy, and to eat them consistently.1 -
Me sad panda... my acid reflux doesn't much like fried foods even though I like them heaps. So in this sense, fried foods are a pretty bad food for me as they equal pretty horrible pain.
I would love to eat a schnitzel with fries but it's better for me I don't.
The only reason a food might be bad for someone is if that person has a medical reason for it and their body doesn't react well. Otherwise, if it fits your calories, just enjoy 2 -
OP, if you're losing, it's just fine. When you stop losing, you may have to cut back on fried foods.3
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I tend to trust the WHO guidelines which are both evidence based and extensively reviewed.
This page outlines the WHO guidelines in relation to prevention of diseases such as diabetes, heart disease, stroke etc.
While caloric intake is mentioned it is certainly not a stand alone consideration; there are specific guidelines regarding fat intake.
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs394/en/2 -
callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »there are no good and bad foods (or good or bad times to eat).
However, the calories in fried foods don't offer much nutritionally. And as an occasional treat or splurge - isnt a bad thing. But when you are at a low calorie limit, it becomes harder, and more important, to eat calories that offer you what you need nutritionally and for energy, and to eat them consistently.
What kind of fried foods are we referring to here? If I take a potato, slice it up and Fry it in olive oil how is it not offer much nutrition? Same with a fried pork chop? The nutrition of the food is still there, but if someone covers the food with a lot of flour and such then it's possible that the calories outweigh the nutritional values.1 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »
Not filling = empty for me.
Doesn't mean I don't do it once in a while, but I'll probably end up hungry if I blow 200 calories in oil.
But saturated fats get a bad name, which is why so many people qualify fried foods as bad. For me, I just avoid them because they don't fill me up and I get more taste for much less calories if I just bake it at home with a spray of oil.3 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »
Not filling = empty for me.
Doesn't mean I don't do it once in a while, but I'll probably end up hungry if I blow 200 calories in oil.
But saturated fats get a bad name, which is why so many people qualify fried foods as bad. For me, I just avoid them because they don't fill me up and I get more taste for much less calories if I just bake it at home with a spray of oil.
Doesn't make them empty... Just not filling.4
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