Weight watchers help

dawson002
dawson002 Posts: 170 Member
edited November 15 in Food and Nutrition
Sorry if this has been asked before.

I'm following weight watchers along with logging everything here. Weight watchers allows me 32 points a day however I am constantly around 12-15 points short every day. I find myself snacking when I'm not hungry just to make some point up!

Trying to lose weight I understand I need a calorie deficit. Do I restrict the amount of calories by not eating these snacks or do I follow the weight watchers way and eat more?

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  • Ready2Rock206
    Ready2Rock206 Posts: 9,487 Member
    Why are you trying to follow 2 very different programs at once? I would pick one and go with it - so if you're doing WW you need to eat your points as that is the way the program is designed. Also to bump up those points eat higher point items rather than a lot of zero or low point items so that you're not needing to eat so much extra food. With how restrictive the new program is it shouldn't be too hard to find low volume but high point foods.
  • dawson002
    dawson002 Posts: 170 Member
    My wife is doing weight watchers so I eat the same as her but also found logging my food on here helpful.

    I'm just confused about whether I should eat less for a higher calorie deficit or eat more to fulfil my weight watchers points
  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
    dawson002 wrote: »
    My wife is doing weight watchers so I eat the same as her but also found logging my food on here helpful.

    I'm just confused about whether I should eat less for a higher calorie deficit or eat more to fulfil my weight watchers points

    How many calories are you eating? The default minimum for men seems to be around 1500. This is probably aggressive if you are active, or young, or not a short person.

    A higher deficit isn't a good thing (on a regular basis). Your body has a hard time supporting existing lean muscle mass at higher deficits. This doesn't lower your body fat % as much as a moderate deficit does.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,421 Member
    You need to eat quite a bit more than a woman. I'm guessing she's a different size, has a different job (therefore different calorie needs?)

    I don't think you should try to eat the same as a woman, we just are not the same creatures! Men tend to need to eat more protein, for one thing.

    I agree that you should pick one method and use it the way it is intended to be used, but the two of you should have been given different "points" as well, right?
  • Bridogg72
    Bridogg72 Posts: 45 Member
    What does 62 WW points equate to as calories ?
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,421 Member
    It's not a straight conversion, Bridogg72.
  • dawson002
    dawson002 Posts: 170 Member
    Thanks everyone for your responses.

    I do eat slightly different to my wife apart from our evening meal we share together. She often feels hungry throughout the day so to fulfill her points she finds easy. I really struggle to hit my 32 point allowance though.
  • Lizarking
    Lizarking Posts: 507 Member
    Bridogg72 wrote: »
    What does 62 WW points equate to as calories ?



    smartpoints-formula-468x32.png

  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,421 Member
    edited February 2017
    Lizarking wrote: »
    Bridogg72 wrote: »
    What does 62 WW points equate to as calories ?



    smartpoints-formula-468x32.png

    How do you account for the different sizes of vegetables and fruits? How do you account for the different sizes of meat portions? Are WW points equivalent in some way to weighing? Because my understanding is that a large apple and a small banana would have the same points. That is not an accurate count. A potato that's 250 grams is vastly different than one that weighs 80 grams. A three ounce burger and a five ounce burger are quite different in calories, fat, protein.

    I'm willing to concede I don't know much about WW. . .but the differences in size alone leads me to believe it's not an accurate method for intake calculation.
  • Ready2Rock206
    Ready2Rock206 Posts: 9,487 Member
    Lizarking wrote: »
    Bridogg72 wrote: »
    What does 62 WW points equate to as calories ?



    smartpoints-formula-468x32.png

    How do you account for the different sizes of vegetables and fruits? How do you account for the different sizes of meat portions? Are WW points equivalent in some way to weighing? Because my understanding is that a large apple and a small banana would have the same points. That is not an accurate count. A potato that's 250 grams is vastly different than one that weighs 80 grams. A three ounce burger and a five ounce burger are quite different in calories, fat, protein.

    I'm willing to concede I don't know much about WW. . .but the differences in size alone leads me to believe it's not an accurate method for intake calculation.

    Fruits and veggies are zero points so size wouldn't matter.

    A burger would be different points based on the size.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,421 Member
    Lizarking wrote: »
    Bridogg72 wrote: »
    What does 62 WW points equate to as calories ?



    smartpoints-formula-468x32.png

    How do you account for the different sizes of vegetables and fruits? How do you account for the different sizes of meat portions? Are WW points equivalent in some way to weighing? Because my understanding is that a large apple and a small banana would have the same points. That is not an accurate count. A potato that's 250 grams is vastly different than one that weighs 80 grams. A three ounce burger and a five ounce burger are quite different in calories, fat, protein.

    I'm willing to concede I don't know much about WW. . .but the differences in size alone leads me to believe it's not an accurate method for intake calculation.

    Fruits and veggies are zero points so size wouldn't matter.

    A burger would be different points based on the size.

    Exactly my point on the fruit and vegetables. Is it still a free-for-all on all fruits and vegetables?

    I eat a pretty fruit/vegetable heavy diet. If I didn't watch the numbers I would be eating way over my maintenance calories. I am careful to choose the smallest apples, and I cut them in half. I buy potatoes by size, 80-120grams each. Before calorie counting I would easily eat a 300 gram potato on a regular meal. That would require a 200 calorie portion of butter and sour cream, too. An apple in the old days would be 300 grams, and I'd eat the whole thing. Now I cut a small apple in half and use it as two portions. That's 100-150 calories difference.

    I just don't see how the free fruit and vegetables thing could ever work. But, WW still keeps plugging along, so what do I know?
  • ptsmiles
    ptsmiles Posts: 511 Member
    Lizarking wrote: »
    Bridogg72 wrote: »
    What does 62 WW points equate to as calories ?



    smartpoints-formula-468x32.png

    How do you account for the different sizes of vegetables and fruits? How do you account for the different sizes of meat portions? Are WW points equivalent in some way to weighing? Because my understanding is that a large apple and a small banana would have the same points. That is not an accurate count. A potato that's 250 grams is vastly different than one that weighs 80 grams. A three ounce burger and a five ounce burger are quite different in calories, fat, protein.

    I'm willing to concede I don't know much about WW. . .but the differences in size alone leads me to believe it's not an accurate method for intake calculation.

    Fruits and veggies are zero points so size wouldn't matter.

    A burger would be different points based on the size.

    Exactly my point on the fruit and vegetables. Is it still a free-for-all on all fruits and vegetables?

    I eat a pretty fruit/vegetable heavy diet. If I didn't watch the numbers I would be eating way over my maintenance calories. I am careful to choose the smallest apples, and I cut them in half. I buy potatoes by size, 80-120grams each. Before calorie counting I would easily eat a 300 gram potato on a regular meal. That would require a 200 calorie portion of butter and sour cream, too. An apple in the old days would be 300 grams, and I'd eat the whole thing. Now I cut a small apple in half and use it as two portions. That's 100-150 calories difference.

    I just don't see how the free fruit and vegetables thing could ever work. But, WW still keeps plugging along, so what do I know?

    I was wondering this as well. As part of a research study I participated in they are providing me with 6 months of WW Online for free. It doesn't make sense to me that you can eat as many fruits and veggies as you want and not gain weight because of the calorie difference between sizes. I get that you would be filling up on healthy things instead of junk, but it is calories just the same.
  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
    edited February 2017
    Bridogg72 wrote: »
    What does 62 WW points equate to as calories ?

    You used to be able to come up with a solid number.

    From what I've read, the latest points system (one example) makes sugary foods cost "more points" than other foods. So the calories per points aren't a set thing anymore. Some people complain that their overall calories are very low under the new system.
  • Ready2Rock206
    Ready2Rock206 Posts: 9,487 Member
    Lizarking wrote: »
    Bridogg72 wrote: »
    What does 62 WW points equate to as calories ?



    smartpoints-formula-468x32.png

    How do you account for the different sizes of vegetables and fruits? How do you account for the different sizes of meat portions? Are WW points equivalent in some way to weighing? Because my understanding is that a large apple and a small banana would have the same points. That is not an accurate count. A potato that's 250 grams is vastly different than one that weighs 80 grams. A three ounce burger and a five ounce burger are quite different in calories, fat, protein.

    I'm willing to concede I don't know much about WW. . .but the differences in size alone leads me to believe it's not an accurate method for intake calculation.

    Fruits and veggies are zero points so size wouldn't matter.

    A burger would be different points based on the size.

    Exactly my point on the fruit and vegetables. Is it still a free-for-all on all fruits and vegetables?

    I eat a pretty fruit/vegetable heavy diet. If I didn't watch the numbers I would be eating way over my maintenance calories. I am careful to choose the smallest apples, and I cut them in half. I buy potatoes by size, 80-120grams each. Before calorie counting I would easily eat a 300 gram potato on a regular meal. That would require a 200 calorie portion of butter and sour cream, too. An apple in the old days would be 300 grams, and I'd eat the whole thing. Now I cut a small apple in half and use it as two portions. That's 100-150 calories difference.

    I just don't see how the free fruit and vegetables thing could ever work. But, WW still keeps plugging along, so what do I know?

    Well the fact that they come out with a completely new program every couple years suggests that maybe it doesn't work. And the latest is EXTREMELY restrictive. So basically you better be eating nothing but fruits and veggies and lean meats because anything else has a ton of points. So if you restrict the kitten out of everything else that's eliminating a ton of calories...
  • beatgirl
    beatgirl Posts: 3 Member
    dawson002 wrote: »
    Thanks everyone for your responses.

    I do eat slightly different to my wife apart from our evening meal we share together. She often feels hungry throughout the day so to fulfill her points she finds easy. I really struggle to hit my 32 point allowance though.

    Your carbs and healthy fats are where you can add points. I also eat a lot of fruits and vegetables, but I try to eat more vegetables than fruit because of the sugar. I'll eat a serving of nuts, which is 5 points. Also, consider adding more whole grains (which are high in points) to your meals or snacks.

  • dawson002
    dawson002 Posts: 170 Member
    Thanks everyone for your thoughts.

    I have decided to stick with MFP instead of counting weight watchers points.

    I am still going to eat my weight watchers meals my wife prepares but will log it with MFP.
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