Has anyone ever tried these?

CharlieBeansmomTracey

Sunna_W wrote: »

I like the Pure Encapsulations brand of 7-Keto DHEA.

See this website: http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-835-7-keto-dhea.aspx?activeingredientid=835 for information about it. It doesn't add testosterone / estrogen.

I am also looking for something to address fatigue and boost metabolism. There is some evidence that Adrenal Glandular (Whole and Cortex) also help. BUT, there isn't a lot of information on the adrenals or the adrenal cortex - you are entering uncharted territory. There are websites that address Adrenal Fatigue - but not really any that discuss how supplementing with desiccated adrenals can assist with balancing hormones, address depression, increase metabolism. It's as if once they discovered prednisone cured Addison's they quit studying what the adrenals did. I liken this to the fact that once they discovered a synthetic thyroid drug, they threw desiccated thyroid away (despite the fact that it has a LOT more different hormones in it than just the dominant one in levoxyl).

See this website for an overview: https://metabolichealing.com/the-endocrine-journey-steroidal-hormones-their-pathways/

See this website: http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/features/adrenal-fatigue-is-it-real#1 to read about adrenal fatigue.

I **have** been experimenting with the Pure Encapsulations - Adrenal - 60ct (whole adrenal (bovine) 150mg adrenal cortex (bovine) 80mg and found that it's actually too strong for me, so I have switched to two other products that are much weaker (I am post menopause and on natural HRT and adding it stimulated a full-blown period...) I took my Vivelle Dot patch off and I am thinking that I may not need it if an adrenal glandular works for me.

Be aware that the first few days of taking Pure Encapsulations - Adrenal - that it is very stimulating -- and you don't want to take 4 on day 1. I never got past needing 1 - I cannot image taking 4 of them a day. Take it early in the morning -- because you will be up for hours. See Amazon.com for both positive and negative product reviews.

All of this aside, neither will help you really if you aren't eating clean. You need to consider also removing all plastics and synthetic chemicals from your home. That includes your detergents, perfumes, hand cream, dryer sheets, etc. which contain endocrine disruptors.

adrenal fatigue is also not recognized by the medical community and is not an accepted medical diagnosis. adrenal insufficiency is however.

snickerscharlie

CattOfTheGarage wrote: »

My brother (we are Scots) calls President Trump "Danald Bumtrumpet".

This has nothing to do with raspberry ketones at all. I'm sorry OP.

It could if the ketones give you gas...

legsnbacon

Vicky__Ellen wrote: »

Well I'm going to try them, along side my diet and workout I know
Some people like them

Then why ask for input?

SLLRunner

Vicky__Ellen wrote: »

Well I'm going to try them, along side my diet and workout I know
Some people like them

Here's the deal, Vicky.

Yes, raspberry keytones will work just fine as long as you eat at a calorie deficit.

No, raspberry keytones will not work at all if you do not eat at a calorie deficit.

A calorie deficit is the only thing required to lose weight, everything else outside of that is preference.

Raspberry keytones have no magic properties to aid in weight loss. The people who attest that they helped them lose weight are either (1) paid to say so or (2) ate at a calorie deficit while using the keytones.

cathipa

OP - just do a search of the forums for raspberry ketones and you will see most of the same responses you are getting here. You aren't the first. There are no magical pills, potions, powders or wraps that will make you lose weight faster or better. Stick to a calorie deficit and you will lose.

Just because we aren't telling you to use them and you will lose doesn't mean we are being mean or nasty. Just giving you advice so you don't make the mistake others before you have made.

dudebro200

VintageFeline wrote: »

I think they're safe but they won't do diddly, otherwise there wouldn't be fat people right? No over the counter supplements magically lead to fat loss, that's what a calorie deficit is for.

There used to be OTC drugs that worked, but they have been taken off the market because of the dangerous side effects. I think they were called Phen Phens

ronjsteele1

CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »

adrenal fatigue is also not recognized by the medical community and is not an accepted medical diagnosis. adrenal insufficiency is however.

This is not true. I can manage to find quite a lot of Functional Medicine MD's on the web that do recognize adrenal fatigue as a medical diagnosis. The AMA may not accept it at the moment, but that does not mean all doctors agree with them (chronic fatigue syndrome anyone?). Give it time. They'll eventually catch up to the practicing doctors of this world (and I'm talking about MD's). AF is not the same as adrenal insufficiency (ie. Addisons). They are different and MD's that treat adrenal fatigue know that.

CharlieBeansmomTracey

ronjsteele1 wrote: »

CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »

adrenal fatigue is also not recognized by the medical community and is not an accepted medical diagnosis. adrenal insufficiency is however.

This is not true. I can manage to find quite a lot of Functional Medicine MD's on the web that do recognize adrenal fatigue as a medical diagnosis. The AMA may not accept it at the moment, but that does not mean all doctors agree with them (chronic fatigue syndrome anyone?). Give it time. They'll eventually catch up to the practicing doctors of this world (and I'm talking about MD's). AF is not the same as adrenal insufficiency (ie. Addisons). They are different and MD's that treat adrenal fatigue know that.

adrenal fatigue is a term for a group of symptoms for which doctors or naturopaths,etc give when they cant find the cause of the symptoms. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4997656/

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