Help with constant nausea! :(
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I just thought he challenge would help me with training to be a cop. I thought I could challenge myself, lose fat, and get stronger with restrictions and accountability through a challenge. I may end up throwing thhe challenge if I don't feel better soon. I really appreciate everyone's input, I am glad I'm not the only one who thought this whole thing was crazy.0
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stefanieblaise wrote: »I just thought he challenge would help me with training to be a cop. I thought I could challenge myself, lose fat, and get stronger with restrictions and accountability through a challenge. I may end up throwing thhe challenge if I don't feel better soon. I really appreciate everyone's input, I am glad I'm not the only one who thought this whole thing was crazy.
if you want to train,eat enough calories, lift weights and lose fat. you will get stronger if you lift in a deficit,providing you follow a progressive lifting program. your body is under too much stress now as it is,little food and over exercising is a recipe for disaster.you could always do some running too if you like.1 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »stefanieblaise wrote: »I just thought he challenge would help me with training to be a cop. I thought I could challenge myself, lose fat, and get stronger with restrictions and accountability through a challenge. I may end up throwing thhe challenge if I don't feel better soon. I really appreciate everyone's input, I am glad I'm not the only one who thought this whole thing was crazy.
if you want to train,eat enough calories, lift weights and lose fat. you will get stronger if you lift in a deficit,providing you follow a progressive lifting program. your body is under too much stress now as it is,little food and over exercising is a recipe for disaster.you could always do some running too if you like.
Thank you so much. I actually was training on my own and running, I guess I was just eating too much crap. Maybe I am better off without them.0 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »stefanieblaise wrote: »See your doctor. You shouldn't feel crappy all the time.
Also, I have to wonder what "...a really strict meal plan... " means. If that's a recent picture, you look pretty thin already -- how extreme a diet are you on?
Thanks, everyone. I am at 29% body fat, so my goal is to get to 23%, so I want to get lean and gain some muscle. I am taking protein powder twice a day and trying to aim for a good ratio of protein, carbs, and veggies each day. It is certainly a challenge, but it has been particularly hard for me because I eat food for comfort. I have been on birth control for seven years but I think I will take a pregnancy test to rule it out.
to gain muscle you are going to need a lot more than 1000 calories a day.and either choose to gain muscle or to get lean(lose fat). its hard to do both, you could do a recomp but that takes time and maintenance calories.. is your health worth more than the $500 deposit? you are doing too much on too little calories.you not being able to reveal the meal plan is a BIG RED FLAG...
Indeed. I am wondering if the trainer is hoping for contestants to bow out due to the difficulty of the challenge...2 -
I do not have first-hand knowledge of Transformation Center but know two people who did the transformation center challenge. Their experiences were not good. One achieved what they believed to be the goal only to have some fine print pointed out that invalidated them getting their deposit back. The other person gave up in the last week when the trainer was telling her to eat nothing but white fish and asparagus and forego water in an attempt to make the weigh in.
$500 is a lot of money to lose but you can't put a value on your health.2 -
I do not have first-hand knowledge of Transformation Center but know two people who did the transformation center challenge. Their experiences were not good. One achieved what they believed to be the goal only to have some fine print pointed out that invalidated them getting their deposit back. The other person gave up in the last week when the trainer was telling her to eat nothing but white fish and asparagus and forego water in an attempt to make the weigh in.
$500 is a lot of money to lose but you can't put a value on your health.
Wow, that sucks. I guess I learned a $500 lesson. Ugh. Well, I am going to eat my version of healthy and keep going to the workouts, so at least I am getting something for my money. Maybe I can lose it on my own, who knows. Thank you for this information.
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stefanieblaise wrote: »Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »stefanieblaise wrote: »
I don't think I can revel the meal plan, but there is a list of under twenty items that are approved on the meal plan. And I am to eat every 2.5-3 hours to keep my metabolism going.snickerscharlie wrote: »Also curious about what your "really strict meal plan" entails.
I would definitely ditch the person who gave it to you
I would but I am in a contract and I only get my deposit back by losing the body fat...I know, not the smartest move. But I seriously do want to lose it...I just wish I knew ahead of time that they would be this strict.
This sounds so dodgy.
I'm Australian but we have the ACCC https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers here that deal with this kind of rip off scam.
I suggest you look into the local equivalent and see if they can get you out of this 'contract' but in the mean time please see a doctor (as others have suggested) to address the nausea and rule out medical causes.4 -
stefanieblaise wrote: »Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »stefanieblaise wrote: »
I don't think I can revel the meal plan, but there is a list of under twenty items that are approved on the meal plan. And I am to eat every 2.5-3 hours to keep my metabolism going.snickerscharlie wrote: »Also curious about what your "really strict meal plan" entails.
I would definitely ditch the person who gave it to you
I would but I am in a contract and I only get my deposit back by losing the body fat...I know, not the smartest move. But I seriously do want to lose it...I just wish I knew ahead of time that they would be this strict.
This sounds so dodgy.
I'm Australian but we have the ACCC https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers here that deal with this kind of rip off scam.
I suggest you look into the local equivalent and see if they can get you out of this 'contract' but in the mean time please see a doctor (as others have suggested) to address the nausea and rule out medical causes.
I should have trusted my instincts but I got scammed. Apparently they are not BBB accredited. I'm going to take a pregnancy test tonight and try other foods to see if my nausea goes away.
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I say you lodge a formal complaint for unsafe practices and BBB the *kitten* out of them till they give you your money back.
You are already in the bottom half of a healthy BMI and you're losing weight in what amounts to a vlcd.
There's so much wrong with that plan especially if it's not utterly emphasizing protein that I would strongly suggest you kiss your $500 goodbye and chalk it to a learning experience of what you should not be trying to do.
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stefanieblaise wrote: »stefanieblaise wrote: »
Also called Transformation Center I think. Or Transformation Camp.
Yep, I'm doing a transformation challenge. So, I feel like a loser if I can't keep up with other challengers, even though I am only 112 lbs and I lost 20 lbs on my own last year.
How tall are you? I'm sorry, but I'm having a really hard time believing that someone that weighs 112 lbs has 29% body fat. I'm just saying this because I'm 5'6", 135lb, 26% body fat, and I have a connective tissue disorder that makes it damn near impossible for me to increase muscle mass so I'm not particularly lean.
Also if it's a whey protein you are taking it could be a milk allergy causing the nausea. I can only use vegan proteins because whey makes me sick. I would see a doctor.
I know it's been said already, but if your doing that much HIIT you definitely need to eat more. These trainers sound like hacks and your health is worth more than the $500 deposit.2 -
Alatariel75 wrote: »So you lose the $500 if you don't lose the body fat?
... anyone else wonder why it would be in the trainer's best interests to have anyone succeed?
I would probably be calling a lawyer at this point...2 -
Alatariel75 wrote: »So you lose the $500 if you don't lose the body fat?
... anyone else wonder why it would be in the trainer's best interests to have anyone succeed?
I would probably be calling a lawyer at this point...
I would also get a second (and third) professional medical opinion on your current body fat percentage. My guess is they inflated your starting percent to make it impossible for you to get your deposit back.2 -
I agree that you should get a lawyer.
I would also drop the plan and start getting intensive advice on how to actually reduce the body fat if that is what you want to do. I'm not an expert on body fat reduction at low body weights, but I'm pretty sure that a combination of HIIT and very low calories will have the opposite effect.
Can someone else weigh in who has experience of decreasing BF% at a healthy body weight? What can she do to reduce body fat percentage? Is my hunch right that she would be better to be eating in a slight surplus and doing strength training? Adding muscle seems like it might be more effective than losing fat, am I right about that?
OP, is there any requirement on the program to lose/maintain weight or is it all about the BF%?1 -
CattOfTheGarage wrote: »Can someone else weigh in who has experience of decreasing BF% at a healthy body weight? What can she do to reduce body fat percentage? Is my hunch right that she would be better to be eating in a slight surplus and doing strength training? Adding muscle seems like it might be more effective than losing fat, am I right about that?
I think it'd probably be a good idea for OP to verify her BF% before considering a specific BF reduction plan. I'm having a really hard time imagining what a 5', 112lb person with 29% body fat looks like. Not saying it's impossible, but that number does sound pretty high to me.
The only method I can think of at the moment is a recomp while eating at maintenance. It'd be a very slow and possibly frustrating process though.2 -
CafeRacer808 wrote: »
The only method I can think of at the moment is a recomp while eating at maintenance. It'd be a very slow and possibly frustrating process though.CattOfTheGarage wrote: »Can someone else weigh in who has experience of decreasing BF% at a healthy body weight? What can she do to reduce body fat percentage? Is my hunch right that she would be better to be eating in a slight surplus and doing strength training? Adding muscle seems like it might be more effective than losing fat, am I right about that?
And hard to do when lumbered with an unsympathetic and possibly corrupt trainer
Seems to me this whole thing is stacked in the company's favour. It's terribly easy to fake (or at least massage) BF% numbers, it's the hardest of all body measures to measure accurately; and terribly easy to sabotage the client with bad advice. Which is what it sounds like is happening here.3 -
CattOfTheGarage wrote: »CafeRacer808 wrote: »
The only method I can think of at the moment is a recomp while eating at maintenance. It'd be a very slow and possibly frustrating process though.CattOfTheGarage wrote: »Can someone else weigh in who has experience of decreasing BF% at a healthy body weight? What can she do to reduce body fat percentage? Is my hunch right that she would be better to be eating in a slight surplus and doing strength training? Adding muscle seems like it might be more effective than losing fat, am I right about that?
And hard to do when lumbered with an unsympathetic and possibly corrupt trainer
Seems to me this whole thing is stacked in the company's favour. It's terribly easy to fake (or at least massage) BF% numbers, it's the hardest of all body measures to measure accurately; and terribly easy to sabotage the client with bad advice. Which is what it sounds like is happening here.
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Alatariel75 wrote: »So you lose the $500 if you don't lose the body fat?
... anyone else wonder why it would be in the trainer's best interests to have anyone succeed?
I would probably be calling a lawyer at this point...
Indeed. I am one, hence my inherent suspicion.2 -
I think at a bare minimum I would forgo the eating plan and start eating food that doesn't make me nauseous, lie about it to the trainer if you have to.
If you want to carry on with the training program then by all means do so but nourish your body properly to cope with the exercise.
I hope you can get your deposit back but if not you'll have to just take it as a very expensive lesson learned.1 -
It would be interesting to see how many (if any!) actually *do* end up getting their $500 back. My guess would be maybe 1 in 10, if that.
OP: The diet is unnecessarily restrictive because it is designed to make you fail. Attempting to undertake that level of exercise while drastically underfueling your body is incredibly unhealthy and inherently dangerous.
Please forfeit the 'entry fee' - your health is priceless.
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She mentioned earlier she's only 5' 0".stefanieblaise wrote: »stefanieblaise wrote: »
Also called Transformation Center I think. Or Transformation Camp.
Yep, I'm doing a transformation challenge. So, I feel like a loser if I can't keep up with other challengers, even though I am only 112 lbs and I lost 20 lbs on my own last year.
How tall are you? I'm sorry, but I'm having a really hard time believing that someone that weighs 112 lbs has 29% body fat. I'm just saying this because I'm 5'6", 135lb, 26% body fat, and I have a connective tissue disorder that makes it damn near impossible for me to increase muscle mass so I'm not particularly lean.stefanieblaise wrote: »Sorry, forgot to mention I am only 5' tall. But 29% body fat can certainly be reduced without it being unhealthy.
I understand her struggle because I'm 5' 2" at 144 and I'm 32% body fat. I'm not surprised with her height.0 -
Eat the food you actually enjoy in the right calorie range that your meal plan is scheduled for.
In the future avoid these scams.1 -
stefanieblaise wrote: »stefanieblaise wrote: »Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »stefanieblaise wrote: »
I don't think I can revel the meal plan, but there is a list of under twenty items that are approved on the meal plan. And I am to eat every 2.5-3 hours to keep my metabolism going.snickerscharlie wrote: »Also curious about what your "really strict meal plan" entails.
I would definitely ditch the person who gave it to you
I would but I am in a contract and I only get my deposit back by losing the body fat...I know, not the smartest move. But I seriously do want to lose it...I just wish I knew ahead of time that they would be this strict.
This sounds so dodgy.
I'm Australian but we have the ACCC https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers here that deal with this kind of rip off scam.
I suggest you look into the local equivalent and see if they can get you out of this 'contract' but in the mean time please see a doctor (as others have suggested) to address the nausea and rule out medical causes.
I should have trusted my instincts but I got scammed. Apparently they are not BBB accredited. I'm going to take a pregnancy test tonight and try other foods to see if my nausea goes away.
Take the pregnancy test.
Take a ginger tablet ... might help with the nausea.
Go to your GP and ask to have a full blood test to check all your vitamin and mineral levels, blood glucose and everything.
Start looking into ways to get your $500 back and quit this program ... you might need to go through the BBB and/or acquire a lawyer. The test results from your Dr might help with that.1
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