The "whoosh"
kq1981
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Hi guys, is this real or another disappointing fabrication?
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iv had many where i dont lose for weeks and then suddenly lose 5 pounds.
Normally i feel bloated right before a whoosh, Sort of swollen all over. And my fat gets "squishy" And lumpy7 -
Yup. It's a real thing. Sudden drops, usually after a little stall.6
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I no there's one out there somewhere for me. Thanks guys8
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Seems to be more common for women, because hormones I think. I'll generally steadily gain for most of the month, 100g or so every couple of days and then I'll lose like 3kg in 2 days. Then stay the same for a few days, and then start gaining again. I average 2lb a month weight loss so each "woosh" takes me a bit lower than the month before. So frustrating though.11
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It's real. i always lose via a whoosh!3
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I never experienced it.
I lost 25 kg/55 lbs and not a single solitary whoosh among them.0 -
I find I only loose weight across 2 weeks of a month which is so frustrating. At the moment I'm on a standstill week and even now realising my pattern I'm In the biggest strop as daily I have no loss.3
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Weight loss isn't linear, so in that sense it is real. But some of the explanations for why it happens are complete nonsense.5
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Down 1.8, 1.7 and .9 over the last three days after at least a week and a half hovering at one weight. Some guys get it as well.3
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TimothyFish wrote: »Weight loss isn't linear, so in that sense it is real. But some of the explanations for why it happens are complete nonsense.
This, exactly. My weight fluctuates at random by about 3lb, so it's quite possible for me, if I lose 1lb a week of fat, to see no difference on the scale for 3 weeks because I'm gaining water at the same time for whatever godforsaken reason. Then when the water goes, hallelujah! I've lost 3lb in one go. I don't call it a "whoosh", just weight fluctuation, but it definitely happens. It affects some people more than others.2 -
I will typically have a slight gain or stall out for the week before lady time and then loose 1.5 to 2 pounds daily over the next week.1
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As far as I know, all the evidence we have for it is anecdotal--no scientific studies that I've been able to find. But it does happen to me. My scale moves about once a month, and moves down several pounds. This has happened throughout the 2+ years I've been losing weight. The most plausible explanations I've seen have to do with water retention. It seems to happen more often to women, so perhaps hormonal cycles that affect water retention have something to do with it.
Edit: I also have what I call the rubber band effect--after a "whoosh," I'll gain a pound or so back for no apparent reason. There's still a net loss, but it's frustrating. Maybe something to do with the body trying to re-balance water/electrolytes? But all of the explanations so far are just speculation.3 -
Its for real I used to go 3 weeks sometimes without losing despite doing everything correctly..and sure enough on that one week I would lose 1 to 1.5 pounds (I didn't have much to lose from the start hence no huge amount but still, it was a whooosh)
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Depends on whom you ask. Ask me and I will tell you it is as real as the sun in the sky. I don't lose small bits of weight, it usually suddenly comes off. There have been a few other threads around here with links to explanations of this. Maybe do a search and check those out. (Disclaimer: I am not saying this post should have been avoided and a search done instead, I just don't have the time at this moment to go searching for that myself!)1
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It's very real.1
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For me, I've noticed it more when I weigh every day. I can go 13 days in a row and be within .01 of the same weight each morning and then on Day 14 I'm down 3 lbs. Clearly those 3 lbs didn't come off over night.8
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Edit: I also have what I call the rubber band effect--after a "whoosh," I'll gain a pound or so back for no apparent reason. There's still a net loss, but it's frustrating. Maybe something to do with the body trying to re-balance water/electrolytes? But all of the explanations so far are just speculation.
I think this is just regression to the mean - in other words, you just hit the low end of your weight fluctuation range and so you are likely to see an upward movement back to what you could think of as your "average weight" - the middle of the range.2 -
CattOfTheGarage wrote: »
Edit: I also have what I call the rubber band effect--after a "whoosh," I'll gain a pound or so back for no apparent reason. There's still a net loss, but it's frustrating. Maybe something to do with the body trying to re-balance water/electrolytes? But all of the explanations so far are just speculation.
I think this is just regression to the mean - in other words, you just hit the low end of your weight fluctuation range and so you are likely to see an upward movement back to what you could think of as your "average weight" - the middle of the range.
Could be. I'd love to know why it happens, though. It's not fat--we don't gain or lose fat that quickly, and I'm in a deficit. I wish there were studies on this! It bothers me to not know how it works.
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I really only see the scale move about every two weeks and always on a Friday. I weigh daily and will be within 2 pounds for 2 weeks and then, always on a Friday, I'll get on the scale to a 3-5 pound loss. Sometimes I'll see some smaller dips before then, but typically not.3
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I've been on MFP for almost 2 years now. Watching MFP friends' progress, it certainly appears that some people plateau then "whoosh", and others lose a bit more steadily (I did - still not linear, but just a gradual, slightly bumpy progress line, with an overall downward trend).
I haven't seen any real pattern as to why: The "whoosh"-ers don't necessarily have more cheat meals, don't seem to have any particular specific eating or exercise patterns in common, may be of either sex, etc.
Some people who lose in "whooshes" see a pattern in their own experience . . . but that pattern reported isn't necessarily the same from one friend to the next.
If you're consistent, you'll soon learn how your body works, and what to expect.4 -
CattOfTheGarage wrote: »
Edit: I also have what I call the rubber band effect--after a "whoosh," I'll gain a pound or so back for no apparent reason. There's still a net loss, but it's frustrating. Maybe something to do with the body trying to re-balance water/electrolytes? But all of the explanations so far are just speculation.
I think this is just regression to the mean - in other words, you just hit the low end of your weight fluctuation range and so you are likely to see an upward movement back to what you could think of as your "average weight" - the middle of the range.
Could be. I'd love to know why it happens, though. It's not fat--we don't gain or lose fat that quickly, and I'm in a deficit. I wish there were studies on this! It bothers me to not know how it works.
It's just water. You drink, you pee. Sometimes you drink more than you pee, sometimes you pee more than you drink. So your weight varies.
There are all sorts of reasons.
Injury causes swelling, which is just extra water retained in the tissues. Exercise causes swelling in the muscles as they heal and adapt, and Illness can also cause swelling, either localised or just generally. Any swelling means extra water and so increased weight.
Dehydration will make you lighter.
Eating extra salt changes fluid balance and will make you retain water and so gain weight.
Hormonal changes will cause water to be retained or lost in various places and that is insanely complicated.
Your glycogen stores (short term carb storage) go up and down depending on what you eat and your activity. Glycogen consists of about 4 parts water to 1 part carbohydrate by weight, so it is heavy and causes a lot of weight fluctuation.
There are just so many reasons. And on top of the water weight is the actual weight of food travelling through your gut, which will vary depending on what you have been eating and how regular you are.
There is nothing unexplained, as far as I know, all the reasons behind water weight fluctuation are well understood, but there are just too many factors to track them in detail and be able to say "I gained weight today because..." - it's like the weather, you just have to roll with it.5 -
When I was losing weight, I would "whoosh" every month if I was consistent with eating within my points (on Weight Watchers). I would lose .6 one week, then gain 1.2, then lose 3.6 and then lose another 3.4!1
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Thanks everyone for your help:-) I'll keep plodding along0
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CattOfTheGarage wrote: »
Edit: I also have what I call the rubber band effect--after a "whoosh," I'll gain a pound or so back for no apparent reason. There's still a net loss, but it's frustrating. Maybe something to do with the body trying to re-balance water/electrolytes? But all of the explanations so far are just speculation.
I think this is just regression to the mean - in other words, you just hit the low end of your weight fluctuation range and so you are likely to see an upward movement back to what you could think of as your "average weight" - the middle of the range.
Could be. I'd love to know why it happens, though. It's not fat--we don't gain or lose fat that quickly, and I'm in a deficit. I wish there were studies on this! It bothers me to not know how it works.
It's called water and waste.1 -
I lose my weight only twice a month in two big whooshes. Last month one of them was 3lbs which considering I'm 140lbs is a lot. My deficit is such that I should be losing 4lbs a month which I do but only in a couple of big chunks.
Very weird.4 -
I have this. Stall for 2 maybe 4 weeks (despite consistent deficit), body looks lumpy and fat feels more flabby, then whoosh 2-4 pounds go.2
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Pretty good article by Lyle McDonald about whooshes.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/of-whooshes-and-squishy-fat.html
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My experiences are anecdotal, and I don't do daily weight tracking (although I weigh daily as a checkpoint mentally). It seems one week a month (maybe during ovulation, not right before TOM), I kind of hold on to some of the weight and I either maintain or lose very, very little. Then the following week, it's back to business as usual and I make up for the week before plus the weight loss for the current week. I don't know why it's that way, it just is.
I try to remind myself not to get frustrated during "fat week" and that it's just a part of the process. I am 99.9% at a deficit every day (no real "cheats" or unaccounted food, an occasional day at maintenance or slightly over every few MONTHS), so there's no real reason why I wouldn't continue to lose.3 -
I find I only loose weight across 2 weeks of a month which is so frustrating. At the moment I'm on a standstill week and even now realising my pattern I'm In the biggest strop as daily I have no loss.
Don't weigh yourself daily if it is going to frustrate you. I only weigh every 2 weeks on Mondays specifically to keep from getting frustrated by daily weight fluctuations. If you can stay away from the scale, it may just help your sanity. My $.02.6 -
I can weight the same for 4 days straight and then boom down 2-3lbs.5
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