Accurate Logging vs A Messy Database

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  • If the nutritional value has changed for what is clearly the same item, I EDIT the existing entry rather than create another new one. It annoys me how many 'duplicate' items there are. I recently found some chicken goujons / tenders in the freezer in my garage and thought I ought to eat them. The brand is Foxwood and I know I originally got them in Costco. There are 4 entries (at least) on the db for the same item. I realised, today, that the one I picked only has (had - it has now been edited) calories and no other info! One of the entries says 'UK' next to it - yet it has exactly the same nutritional values as the others (I'm in the UK and checked the packaging in ace something was different) so why on earth did anyone add that? A clean-up to remove duplicates would be good, but I guess that would affect people's historical logs. However, the end result is that the db is going to become unwieldly.

    Sometimes it does not allow for edits. If an item has a green check mark and the info in incorrect there is no way to edit that.
  • stspurg
    stspurg Posts: 2 Member
    edited April 2017
    Sometimes it does not allow for edits. If an item has a green check mark and the info in incorrect there is no way to edit that.

    I came to the forum today exactly because of this. I'm looking at Entenmann's Frosted Devil's Food Donut, which the database entry from 2015 has listed for 280 Calories, but the packaging in front of me says 250. A couple other values are off. I've marked it as inaccurate, but I can't correct it. My only choice now is to create a duplicate with updated information. Oh, and I can't make it public with the same name, so I guess I'm making it private.
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  • PaulaWallaDingDong
    PaulaWallaDingDong Posts: 4,641 Member
    stspurg wrote: »
    Sometimes it does not allow for edits. If an item has a green check mark and the info in incorrect there is no way to edit that.

    I came to the forum today exactly because of this. I'm looking at Entenmann's Frosted Devil's Food Donut, which the database entry from 2015 has listed for 280 Calories, but the packaging in front of me says 250. A couple other values are off. I've marked it as inaccurate, but I can't correct it. My only choice now is to create a duplicate with updated information. Oh, and I can't make it public with the same name, so I guess I'm making it private.

    I think there's a way of sending in screenshots of the incorrect entry and a picture of the label to MFP for someone to fix but if they think I'm going to that much trouble, they're out of their minds.
  • Geocitiesuser
    Geocitiesuser Posts: 1,429 Member
    as others have mentioned, I add "usda" to all of my food diary searches then find the ones based off 100g. These are usually the most accurate. Sometimes if I'm not sure I'll cross reference with the actual USDA info.

    But yeah, this MFP data is a horrendous mess. Someone needs to go through and delete all the bad entries or something. Your calories and macros can vary WILDLY depending on which entries you pick for the same foods.
  • BlueberryJoghurt
    BlueberryJoghurt Posts: 67 Member
    Tbh, I started and used MFP last year but after I figured out the whole "accurate weighing" I just went off of the nutrional information on the products and usually using wikipedia for fruits/veggies/etc.

    Additionally Im boring and lazy, so my meals will be very similar and I count stuff up in my head.
    But yeah if youre feeling like mfp data base isnt right for you, google stuff from credible sources (:
  • IdLikeToLoseItLoseIt
    IdLikeToLoseItLoseIt Posts: 695 Member
    How/Where can we check whether we are sharing our My Foods entries with the database? I don't see any setting to indicate that information on the app nor on the website.

    Uesful info on this thread! I didn't even know we could edit our My Foods, that is helpful (I use the app almost exclusively, and I don't think there is a way to edit my entries there). I logged into the website and tried to edit a My Foods entry and it asks at the bottom to give a description of the changes? I guess I don't understand what I should write, since it's my own entry?

    Thanks for the help!
  • seska422
    seska422 Posts: 3,217 Member
    edited April 2017
    How/Where can we check whether we are sharing our My Foods entries with the database? I don't see any setting to indicate that information on the app nor on the website.

    Uesful info on this thread! I didn't even know we could edit our My Foods, that is helpful (I use the app almost exclusively, and I don't think there is a way to edit my entries there). I logged into the website and tried to edit a My Foods entry and it asks at the bottom to give a description of the changes? I guess I don't understand what I should write, since it's my own entry?

    Thanks for the help!
    From the website, go to My Foods and click on the item in the Matching Foods list so that you can see its nutritional info. To the right of the Nutrition Facts header is an Edit button. There is also a Delete button if you don't have the item shared with the database. We can only delete things that aren't shared.

    As for describing the changes, put "changed name" or "changed fat grams" or just whatever you edited.

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  • IdLikeToLoseItLoseIt
    IdLikeToLoseItLoseIt Posts: 695 Member
    seska422 wrote: »
    How/Where can we check whether we are sharing our My Foods entries with the database? I don't see any setting to indicate that information on the app nor on the website.

    Uesful info on this thread! I didn't even know we could edit our My Foods, that is helpful (I use the app almost exclusively, and I don't think there is a way to edit my entries there). I logged into the website and tried to edit a My Foods entry and it asks at the bottom to give a description of the changes? I guess I don't understand what I should write, since it's my own entry?

    Thanks for the help!
    From the website, go to My Foods and click on the item in the Matching Foods list so that you can see its nutritional info. To the right of the Nutrition Facts header is a Edit button. If there is also a Delete button then you don't have it shared with the database. We can only delete things that aren't shared.

    As for describing the changes, put "changed name" or "changed fat grams" or just whatever you edited.

    Thank you!
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,093 Member
    stspurg wrote: »
    Sometimes it does not allow for edits. If an item has a green check mark and the info in incorrect there is no way to edit that.

    I came to the forum today exactly because of this. I'm looking at Entenmann's Frosted Devil's Food Donut, which the database entry from 2015 has listed for 280 Calories, but the packaging in front of me says 250. A couple other values are off. I've marked it as inaccurate, but I can't correct it. My only choice now is to create a duplicate with updated information. Oh, and I can't make it public with the same name, so I guess I'm making it private.

    If you wanted to make it public, you could include the date in the name of the item, e.g., Entenmann's Frosted Devil's Food Donut (2017). I sometimes include both the year and country (2017 U.S.) since companies use different recipes in different countries, as well as changing recipes/labels over time.
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