Does paleo work?

lemurcat12

stripeybelly wrote: »

I can't stand it when people try to say it doesn't matter if you eat sugar or vegetables, as long as you have a calorie deficit you'll still lose weight.

You will.

However, I didn't notice people saying eating vegetables doesn't matter. I certainly think it matters a lot for nutrition, etc.

What I don't think is that eating paleo means you eat more vegetables. I ate lots before I did paleo, while I was doing paleo, and now. I think my diet is healthier now, not doing paleo, since I was cutting out foods that are helpful for me in creating a healthful diet (especially legumes, but also dairy and whole grains).

So stop pretending like paleo or not means healthful diet or not.

janejellyroll

stripeybelly wrote: »

I can't stand it when people try to say it doesn't matter if you eat sugar or vegetables, as long as you have a calorie deficit you'll still lose weight.

Yeah, maybe, but if you want to make a lifestyle change and not be on a "diet" your whole life, then you need to put down the addictive processed crap and start feeding your body actual nutrients.

Eating paleo/low carb/etc is not hard or expensive. I buy a couple pounds of chicken breasts/tenders a week, cook them all at once and put them in the fridge. Hardboil some eggs to stick in there too. Buy frozen veggies that you can cook quickly.

You don't have to go all or nothing on it. Small changes help. Sometime when you want sugar, instead eat some carrot sticks with peanut butter. If you're hungry for pizza, make a modified chicken parmesan with skinless chicken breasts, pasta sauce, and cheese. Don't worry about "never eating birthday cake again" or whatever the one person said. It's not like if you eat one gram of sugar your body will explode.

The less you eat junk food, the less you want it.

But their choices aren't "get nutrients" or "eat processed food." You can do both.

For lunch today I had a bunch of vegetables and then some mini oatmeal cookies. The cookies didn't cancel out the vegetables and the cookies themselves contain some nutrients that my body can use.

Lillymoo01

I came across this article which was quite information in regards to whether a calorie is just a calorie.

In a nutshell, if you only want to lose weight then eat at a deficit. If you are more concerned with your body composition then you need to pay attention to your macros. If health is what you are after then you need to make sensible food choices.

The conclusions to the article were this:

What method is truly the best? The answer is the same as the answer to the question “What’s the best workout plan?” – the one that you’ll actually FOLLOW THROUGH WITH!

For some people, they eat 100% paleo and LOVE it. For others, it’s two weeks of misery before falling off the wagon and returning to old habits.

For some people, counting macros is either the easiest thing ever, or will create an eye twitch on their first day.

So, we don’t get caught up in the “perfect” debate. Perfection doesn’t exist. The perfect diet doesn’t exist; we only care what happens in reality, with real people, who have busy lives, bad habits, and need help.

What I care about is what diet or nutrition plan will result in the following for the greatest number of Rebels:

A strong, functional body.
A happy, confident person who doesn’t freak out about food.
A clean bill of health from the doctor.
Life long success!

Let’s keep it simple: Our bodies are complex pieces of machinery, and although a calorie might make a simple equation for weight loss, every other factor of “healthy” can be affected by the quality and nutritional makeup of that calorie.

For that reason, we want you to eat real foods, cut back on sugar, and think long term (habits) rather than in short bursts.

https://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/is-a-calorie-really-just-a-calorie/

crzycatlady1

stripeybelly wrote: »

I can't stand it when people try to say it doesn't matter if you eat sugar or vegetables, as long as you have a calorie deficit you'll still lose weight.

Yeah, maybe, but if you want to make a lifestyle change and not be on a "diet" your whole life, then you need to put down the addictive processed crap and start feeding your body actual nutrients.

Eating paleo/low carb/etc is not hard or expensive. I buy a couple pounds of chicken breasts/tenders a week, cook them all at once and put them in the fridge. Hardboil some eggs to stick in there too. Buy frozen veggies that you can cook quickly.

You don't have to go all or nothing on it. Small changes help. Sometime when you want sugar, instead eat some carrot sticks with peanut butter. If you're hungry for pizza, make a modified chicken parmesan with skinless chicken breasts, pasta sauce, and cheese. Don't worry about "never eating birthday cake again" or whatever the one person said. It's not like if you eat one gram of sugar your body will explode.

The less you eat junk food, the less you want it.

How long have you been successfully maintaining your weight loss?

AnvilHead

dudebro200 wrote: »

I am not well read in the subject but I believe some studies have shown that the human body metabolizes each macro nutrient in a different way.

Carbs and fats eaten in excess are more likely to end up in fat cells than excess protein for example.

Also, refined sugars aren't simply calories and have some significant negative effects on one's body.


Bodybuilders are experts at losing and gaining weight and maintaining lean muscle mass. The rampant drug use complicates things, but overall, most bodybuilders, natural or enhanced, cut carbs and increase protein to lean down.

Yes, in pre-contest prep bodybuilders often do cut down on carbs. Wanna know why?

Because carbs are hydrophilic - every molecule of carbohydrate attracts 3 molecules of water along for the ride. By cutting carbs, they're cutting water weight. Water manipulation is a huge part of pre-contest prep to "dry out" for that paper-thin skin and maximal muscular definition.

For the average person who isn't a bodybuilder and isn't 3%-5% bodyfat and is trying to lose actual fat instead of water, how much good do you suppose it does them to cut carbs and "dry out" subcutaneous water weight?

dudebro200

AnvilHead wrote: »

dudebro200 wrote: »

I am not well read in the subject but I believe some studies have shown that the human body metabolizes each macro nutrient in a different way.

Carbs and fats eaten in excess are more likely to end up in fat cells than excess protein for example.

Also, refined sugars aren't simply calories and have some significant negative effects on one's body.


Bodybuilders are experts at losing and gaining weight and maintaining lean muscle mass. The rampant drug use complicates things, but overall, most bodybuilders, natural or enhanced, cut carbs and increase protein to lean down.

Yes, in pre-contest prep bodybuilders often do cut down on carbs. Wanna know why?

Because carbs are hydrophilic - every molecule of carbohydrate attracts 3 molecules of water along for the ride. By cutting carbs, they're cutting water weight. Water manipulation is a huge part of pre-contest prep to "dry out" for that paper-thin skin and maximal muscular definition.

For the average person who isn't a bodybuilder and isn't 3%-5% bodyfat and is trying to lose actual fat instead of water, how much good do you suppose it does them to cut carbs and "dry out" subcutaneous water weight?

Okay

canadianlbs

BDonjon wrote: »

A word for Paleo:

i'm seeing this same effect from keto too with a guy in my lifting club, who eats [his words] 'like a raccoon'. or 'a garburator' - also his words. idk what 2018 is going to be like for him, but as of right now he and his husband are both determined to keto for a whole year just to find out what happens.

one thing that's happened so far is he no longer eats 'crap'.