sugar detox

mph323

wolfe1234 wrote: »

mph323 wrote: »

snickerscharlie wrote: »

kavahni wrote: »

I loved the book "I Quit Sugar." It is not a "detox" diet, and is a humane and science-based way to get control of your consumption. Takes about 8 weeks, not cold turkey, and you are still allowed a couple of low-glycemic index sugars, and no artificial sweeteners. Her recipes are tasty and satisfying. The idea is to clear the sugar from your system, and then reassess the amount sugar you CAN eat. Worth a look-see.

What's wrong with artificial sweeteners?

duh, haven't you heard? They make you fat!!

Yes, that is correct.
Accumulating evidence suggests that frequent consumers of sugar substitutes may also be at increased risk of excessive weight gain, metabolic syndrome, type 2 diabetes, and cardiovascular disease. This paper [see link] discusses these findings and considers the hypothesis that consuming sweet-tasting but noncaloric or reduced-calorie food and beverages interferes with learned responses that normally contribute to glucose and energy homeostasis. Because of this interference, frequent consumption of high-intensity sweeteners may have the counterintuitive effect of inducing metabolic derangements.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23850261

Oh for pete's sake - that was a JOKE! Something with no calories can't possibly cause weight gain.

Christine_72

AnvilHead wrote: »

kavahni wrote: »

I loved the book "I Quit Sugar." It is not a "detox" diet, and is a humane and science-based way to get control of your consumption. Takes about 8 weeks, not cold turkey, and you are still allowed a couple of low-glycemic index sugars, and no artificial sweeteners. Her recipes are tasty and satisfying. The idea is to clear the sugar from your system, and then reassess the amount sugar you CAN eat. Worth a look-see.

1) Anything that claims it takes 8 weeks to "clear" sugar from your system is assuredly not science-based.

2) Glycemic index is irrelevant unless the carb/sugar source is eaten in isolation from all other substrates and in a fasted state.

3) I'd be interested to know why she does not allow artificial sweeteners.

My guess is to get them out of the habit of eating sweet foods, and adding sugar/sweetness to everything. Like having straight up coffee/tea minus the 2-3 teaspoons of sugar/AS.

Christine_72

I have no horse in this race, these are 2 links I've seen re Artificial sugars and gut microbiota. Take them or leave them

http://www.drperlmutter.com/how-sugar-free-spells-danger/?utm_source=DrPerlmutter.com+Newsletter&utm_campaign=95b4cd8f89-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_02_05&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_3e059546f6-95b4cd8f89-99343905&mc_cid=95b4cd8f89&mc_eid=d953625a6e


https://chriskresser.com/how-artificial-sweeteners-wreak-havoc-on-your-gut/?utm_source=ChrisKresser.com&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e7d56abf8a-ee9c9ca3ac-95902905&utm_content&utm_campaign=ee9c9ca3ac-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2016_11_09&mc_cid=ee9c9ca3ac&mc_eid=56daae840f

ninerbuff

wolfe1234 wrote: »

Here we argue that NNSs are not physiologically inert compounds and consider the potential biological mechanisms by which NNS consumption may impact energy balance and metabolic function, including actions on oral and extra-oral sweet taste receptors, and effects on metabolic hormone secretion, cognitive processes (e.g. reward learning, memory, and taste perception), and gut microbiota.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26048305

The key word "MAY". If I drive my car out in public I "may" get in a car accident. The only way to truly prevent being in a car accident is to never step foot inside any car every.

Oh and I also have been using artificial sweeteners DAILY for over 25+ years. I should be obese by now if the "hypothesis" is correct.

Correlation doesn't actually equal causation. That should be the take away.

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AnvilHead

wolfe1234 wrote: »

AnvilHead wrote: »

3) I'd be interested to know why she does not allow artificial sweeteners.

Because they affect insulin response. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23850261

Actually no, they don't. Check diabetes.org for starters.

wolfe1234 wrote: »

Here we argue that NNSs are not physiologically inert compounds and consider the potential biological mechanisms by which NNS consumption may impact energy balance and metabolic function, including actions on oral and extra-oral sweet taste receptors, and effects on metabolic hormone secretion, cognitive processes (e.g. reward learning, memory, and taste perception), and gut microbiota.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26048305

I could hypothesize that anything MAY lead to anything else. That doesn't make it fact. And correlation does not equal causation.

Holly1019

Oh my.... Thank you all so much! I have learned so much. I guess its not that I need a "detox" . I just need to not eat as much junk. (cookies, cake, candy) I am addicted to it all. The more I have....... the more I want. I try not to keep it in the house. Sometimes I send my husband to the store for stuff because I think I will give in and buy it. Thank you all for your help.

snickerscharlie

wolfe1234 wrote: »

ninerbuff wrote: »

Oh and I also have been using artificial sweeteners DAILY for over 25+ years. I should be obese by now if the "hypothesis" is correct.

Correlation doesn't actually equal causation. That should be the take away.

And by that reasoning, if smoking causes lung cancer, my grandfather (see note directly above) should have had lung cancer. Therefore smoking does not cause lung cancer.

Not everyone who smokes gets lung cancer. The link between them, though, is scientifically proven unlike your assertions concerning artificial sweeteners.

Wetcoaster

I have been using artificial sweeteners since drinking Tab back in 1982-83 I think....so 34 years at least. Still kicking.

michelllqoh

Christine_72 wrote: »

I have no horse in this race, these are 2 links I've seen re Artificial sugars and gut microbiota. Take them or leave them

http://www.drperlmutter.com/how-sugar-free-spells-danger/?utm_source=DrPerlmutter.com+Newsletter&utm_campaign=95b4cd8f89-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_02_05&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_3e059546f6-95b4cd8f89-99343905&mc_cid=95b4cd8f89&mc_eid=d953625a6e


https://chriskresser.com/how-artificial-sweeteners-wreak-havoc-on-your-gut/?utm_source=ChrisKresser.com&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e7d56abf8a-ee9c9ca3ac-95902905&utm_content&utm_campaign=ee9c9ca3ac-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2016_11_09&mc_cid=ee9c9ca3ac&mc_eid=56daae840f

Perlmutter has been labeled a quack for many years. and Chris Kresser is a licensed acupuncturist and practitioner of integrative medicine who promotes animal products as a way to optimal health. Neither of these guys has an credibility and there is virtually no science behind their claims. Both of these men are "Dr. Oz" types, trying to sell books and merchandise - they are not interested in real science.

michelllqoh

Correlation definitely does not equal causation.