sugar detox

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  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    wolfe1234 wrote: »
    AnvilHead wrote: »

    3) I'd be interested to know why she does not allow artificial sweeteners.

    Because they affect insulin response. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23850261

    Actually no, they don't. Check diabetes.org for starters.

    wolfe1234 wrote: »
    Here we argue that NNSs are not physiologically inert compounds and consider the potential biological mechanisms by which NNS consumption may impact energy balance and metabolic function, including actions on oral and extra-oral sweet taste receptors, and effects on metabolic hormone secretion, cognitive processes (e.g. reward learning, memory, and taste perception), and gut microbiota.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26048305
    I could hypothesize that anything MAY lead to anything else. That doesn't make it fact. And correlation does not equal causation.
  • Holly1019
    Holly1019 Posts: 43 Member
    Oh my.... Thank you all so much! I have learned so much. I guess its not that I need a "detox" . I just need to not eat as much junk. (cookies, cake, candy) I am addicted to it all. The more I have....... the more I want. I try not to keep it in the house. Sometimes I send my husband to the store for stuff because I think I will give in and buy it. Thank you all for your help.
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  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
    wolfe1234 wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »

    Oh and I also have been using artificial sweeteners DAILY for over 25+ years. I should be obese by now if the "hypothesis" is correct.

    Correlation doesn't actually equal causation. That should be the take away.

    And by that reasoning, if smoking causes lung cancer, my grandfather (see note directly above) should have had lung cancer. Therefore smoking does not cause lung cancer.

    Not everyone who smokes gets lung cancer. The link between them, though, is scientifically proven unlike your assertions concerning artificial sweeteners.
  • Wetcoaster
    Wetcoaster Posts: 1,788 Member
    I have been using artificial sweeteners since drinking Tab back in 1982-83 I think....so 34 years at least. Still kicking.
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  • michelllqoh
    michelllqoh Posts: 8 Member

    Perlmutter has been labeled a quack for many years. and Chris Kresser is a licensed acupuncturist and practitioner of integrative medicine who promotes animal products as a way to optimal health. Neither of these guys has an credibility and there is virtually no science behind their claims. Both of these men are "Dr. Oz" types, trying to sell books and merchandise - they are not interested in real science.
  • michelllqoh
    michelllqoh Posts: 8 Member
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    Correlation definitely does not equal causation.
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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,992 Member
    wolfe1234 wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »

    Oh and I also have been using artificial sweeteners DAILY for over 25+ years. I should be obese by now if the "hypothesis" is correct.

    Correlation doesn't actually equal causation. That should be the take away.

    And by that reasoning, if smoking causes lung cancer, my grandfather (see note directly above) should have had lung cancer. Therefore smoking does not cause lung cancer.
    Problem is smoking HAS been proven to cause lung cancer. That CAN'T be said about artificial sweeteners. Better yet there are a few cancer organizations and not one of them attributes death by artificial sweeteners.

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,992 Member
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    wolfe1234 wrote: »
    AnvilHead wrote: »

    Actually no, they don't. Check diabetes.org for starters.

    Until recently, the general belief was that non-nutritive sweeteners (NNSs) were healthy sugar substitutes because they provide sweet taste without calories or glycemic effects. However, data from several epidemiological studies have found that consumption of NNSs, mainly in diet sodas, is associated with increased risk to develop obesity, metabolic syndrome, and type 2 diabetes. The main purpose of this article is to review recent scientific evidence supporting potential mechanisms that explain how "metabolically inactive" NNSs, which have few, if any, calories, might promote metabolic dysregulation. Three potential mechanisms, which are not mutually exclusive, are presented: 1) NNSs interfere with learned responses that contribute to control glucose and energy homeostasis, 2) NNSs interfere with gut microbiota and induce glucose intolerance, and 3) NNSs interact with sweet-taste receptors expressed throughout the digestive system that play a role in glucose absorption and trigger insulin secretion. In addition, recent findings from our laboratory showing an association between individual taste sensitivity to detect sucralose and sucralose's acute effects on metabolic response to an oral glucose load are reported. Taken as a whole, data support the notion that NNSs have metabolic effects. More research is needed to elucidate the mechanisms by which NNSs may drive metabolic dysregulation and better understand potential effects of these commonly used food additives.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26095119

    Metabolic syndrome is another name for impaired insulin response, hence my earlier post.


    Better tell that to the ADA then. Because diet drinks are an alternative for diabetics.
    And impaired insulin response may be a SYMPTOM of metabolic syndrome. One can have metabolic syndrome and have normal insulin response.

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