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  • jahmalmcqueen
    jahmalmcqueen Posts: 15 Member
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    rashadlc1980 wrote: »
    I was on a Dr. Sebi's forum group on FB. Most people were following his philosophy, but when asked, has anyone ever been cured from a serious disease, there were no responses. I was looking for testimonials. I also followed the guideline (recommended) foods to eat. I wanted to have more energy and a cure for my allergies and sinus. My mother also ordered from his website (drsebisfoodcell) or something like that, as she is a diabetic and had severe knee pain. She called the office and they recommended a product. She has been on it for over 30 days now.

    The Results: My energy levels are still the same, and I still have allergies and sinuses. Also I hardly ever get sick, it was not a difference from when I was a Vegan for over a year.

    My mothers results: Her knee pain is still the same. She gave an honest result and said that She didn't feel any difference. I felt bad because I recommended his products for I thought this will be the final stop for trying to heal yourself.

    Now I've head testimonials (youtube) from others reversing diabetes from a raw vegan or just a vegan lifestyle and staying away from processed foods, oils, sugars etc...

    Conculsion: I do believe the recommended foods he lists are the best to choose from if going the Vegan route. Even Doctors will warn to not eat too many carrots or starchy vegetables. I've done the research, have books that follow his practices (alkaline medicine, healing) all that. For years. But I have yet to meet anyone personally that was healed from the un-curable diseases that he claims.

    If taking his product hasnt had any effect yet each person is different everyones body takes time to detox poisons that have been in our bodies for years.
  • RuNaRoUnDaFiEld
    RuNaRoUnDaFiEld Posts: 5,864 Member
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    jahmalmcqueen wrote: »
    rashadlc1980 wrote: »
    I was on a Dr. Sebi's forum group on FB. Most people were following his philosophy, but when asked, has anyone ever been cured from a serious disease, there were no responses. I was looking for testimonials. I also followed the guideline (recommended) foods to eat. I wanted to have more energy and a cure for my allergies and sinus. My mother also ordered from his website (drsebisfoodcell) or something like that, as she is a diabetic and had severe knee pain. She called the office and they recommended a product. She has been on it for over 30 days now.

    The Results: My energy levels are still the same, and I still have allergies and sinuses. Also I hardly ever get sick, it was not a difference from when I was a Vegan for over a year.

    My mothers results: Her knee pain is still the same. She gave an honest result and said that She didn't feel any difference. I felt bad because I recommended his products for I thought this will be the final stop for trying to heal yourself.

    Now I've head testimonials (youtube) from others reversing diabetes from a raw vegan or just a vegan lifestyle and staying away from processed foods, oils, sugars etc...

    Conculsion: I do believe the recommended foods he lists are the best to choose from if going the Vegan route. Even Doctors will warn to not eat too many carrots or starchy vegetables. I've done the research, have books that follow his practices (alkaline medicine, healing) all that. For years. But I have yet to meet anyone personally that was healed from the un-curable diseases that he claims.

    If taking his product hasnt had any effect yet each person is different everyones body takes time to detox poisons that have been in our bodies for years.

    Which poisons are you detoxing?
  • jahmalmcqueen
    jahmalmcqueen Posts: 15 Member
    edited March 2017
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    My Question to all you good people is if what dr sebi is saying so wrong, then why isnt our society healthy??? We live in a "first" world country and are sick not just physically but mentally. Those are the facts, heart attacks, diabities, obesity you name it western civilization has it. Where are the cures, where are the healing taking place?? cause you know chemo puts your body through hell and is no good for you. Why is our society so sick???

    And I am not in here to have heated debate we are all brothers and sisters in this journey of life. Lets reason and Learn together. Hate and talking down to people aint gonna help anyone. When we talk to eachother lets be respectful and have manors, if your about hate then keep your negativity to yourselves.

    Peace and Love my human family!
  • RuNaRoUnDaFiEld
    RuNaRoUnDaFiEld Posts: 5,864 Member
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    jahmalmcqueen wrote: »
    My Question to all you good people is if what dr sebi is saying so wrong, then why isnt our society healthy??? We live in a "first" world country and are sick not just physically but mentally. Those are the facts, heart attacks, diabities, obesity you name it western civilization has it. Where are the cures, where are the healing taking place?? cause you know chemo puts your body through hell and is no good for you. Why is our society so sick???

    And I am not in here to have heated debate we are all brothers and sisters in this journey of life. Hate and talking down to people aint gonna help anyone. When we take to eachother lets be respectful and have manors, if your about hate then keep your negativity to yourselves.

    Peace and Love my human family!

    The number one causation of those is obesity. Food has become readily available whilst advances in technology mean we move much less.
    The extra weight means extra stress on our bodies.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
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    I think we need better definition on what desktop "research" implies. It's far more than reading the top ten google hits.

    I'll often start with the wiki article. As wiki is user led and consensus driven, you are going to see both sides represented. A good wiki article will also cite sources.

    Then there's the rigor involved in critiquing the sources. I'll check Google Scholar. I'll see if the study has been replicated, and how often the author is cited.

    Is the study of suitable size, double blind, and peer reviewed?
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
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    Bariatric surgery is also known to reverse diabetes. The reversal is too complete to explain by weight loss alone.
  • RuNaRoUnDaFiEld
    RuNaRoUnDaFiEld Posts: 5,864 Member
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    ILiftHeavyAcrylics wrote: »
    jahmalmcqueen wrote: »
    elphie754 wrote: »
    jahmalmcqueen wrote: »
    elphie754 wrote: »
    jahmalmcqueen wrote: »
    elphie754 wrote: »
    jahmalmcqueen wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    jahmalmcqueen wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    jahmalmcqueen wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    jahmalmcqueen wrote: »
    Look up Dr Sebi. He has cured people of diabities etc etc. No meat no startch eating a alkaline diet. Trust me do the research. The reason your husband has diabities cause hes acidic and inside his pancreas is mucus, which is the result of food that is acidic. Change his diet and hell save his life.

    This is not correct. If the human body becomes acidic, we die. Our pH range is quite narrow. And I don't believe the pancreas can fill with mucus...

    Vegetarian diets can be healthy, but that is not why.

    My good friend do your research on Dr Sebi. Any food that is acidic is horrible for body. Meat Dairy etc. etc. Acidic foods cause dis-ease in the body. He has cured people with anything from Diabities too sicckle cell anemia. The choice is always up to you to do the research. A Vegan Alkaline diet would change the game. Medical Science has cured nothing they just give chemicals.

    While i agree that medical science is not often helpful for curing chronic diseases. Dr Sebi's ideas do not make sense for me. He says God did not make starch or acidic foods, and that since taken out of Africa they were made to eat starch and blood. He says gorillas did not eat blood....

    I have done research. I agree vegan diets can be healthy but his reasons for it make little sense. I do believe in the power of faith in healing but his ideas aren't going to work for me.

    The man is just too proud of the fact that he does not read books!

    Did you watch the whole thing. Or stop at a point. His basis is that there is only one disease which is mucus. You clean the body of mucus, take herbs and eat a vegan alkaline diet you can cure anything. Any chemical that a doctor prescribes is not good for the body. Chemicals dont cure anything chemicals wont cure anything. Its true Gorillas do not eat meat. He said God didnt create startch or acidic foods because the molecular structure is not complete. Foods that are alkaline have a complete molecular structure and in turn are Gods food and good for the body. And they are not ideas they are facts. He has cured people, he was at court and won. He has documents to prove it. But rem now to the FDA and Big Pharma hes a very dangerous man because if people really understood what he was saying then people would drop the western medical sciences and go to the herbs and being vegan and those such companies and industries would loose there money. Research upon research needs to be done. We live in a "first" world country or society and so sick. Why? Look at our lifestyle look at what we eat. Look at the way we live and who we trust to make sure were getting proper information about our nutrition and life. The BIG picture would let you see that Dr Sebis claims are facts because he has not been guilty of a crime nor has been guilty of not proving documents to prove of his cures.
    The man is a crackpot and dead.

    He did pass away this summer. But a crockpot he is not. Its funny when people have nothing to say they remark with insults. That only shows where your intellect will take you. Please my friend look beyond your own ignorance. I am posting here to help with the ladys husbands diabities not have a debate with myself cause you have nothing to say back cause what you yourself claimed about Dr Sebi was false.

    I am sorry that you got brainwashed by this guy, but he is indeed a fraud. You said he claimed to have cured AIDS with his diet in another thread, which is just false. You can not cure AIDS with diet. To recommend so is irresponsible and can lead to death.

    Apologies its not just eating a vegan diet it is also using his bio mineral cell food to go in and clean everycell in the body of mucus. I was poor in my aproach. But the vegan diet with also cleaning the entire human system, lymphatic, blood etc etc with herbs will show results of a diabetic free person. Rem this though the crazy one in the room isnt really the crazy one he sees something others arnt ready or wont accept.

    Just no. You can't "clean" the human system (even dialysis doesn't "clean" the entire system) nor would you want to. You got brainwashed, and unfortunately in this case, spreading this information, is irresponsible and can lead to lethal consequences.

    Have you done the research. I have. I have known someone who has been cured through dr sebis eating and herbal protocol. You dont know what you are talking about. Ignorance is not bliss my friend. Clean the blood, clean the cells clean the human body and it is no longer sick. Please save me your un investigated comments to your self and do proper research. Dont make claims you know nothing of. Do your research

    As someone with a degree in Biotechnology with a minor in microbiology, I really want to head desk to the idea that a diet can cure a retrovirus. You obviously have no scientific background if you truly believe that.

    Just do your research. Go listen and study what the man is saying. He has cured people. All these people with "degrees" and cant cure no one. Youve been in indoctronized in western medicine that uses chemicals for cures mean while the "father" of western medicine Hippocrates says, "Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food."

    I can't imagine how a person with a degree in biotechnology and minor in microbiology could possibly need to do more research. If anyone in this thread has "done their research" I'm pretty sure it's @elphie754 .

    QFT
  • Lavelle1980
    Lavelle1980 Posts: 367 Member
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    jahmalmcqueen wrote: »
    My Question to all you good people is if what dr sebi is saying so wrong, then why isnt our society healthy??? We live in a "first" world country and are sick not just physically but mentally. Those are the facts, heart attacks, diabities, obesity you name it western civilization has it. Where are the cures, where are the healing taking place?? cause you know chemo puts your body through hell and is no good for you. Why is our society so sick???

    And I am not in here to have heated debate we are all brothers and sisters in this journey of life. Lets reason and Learn together. Hate and talking down to people aint gonna help anyone. When we talk to each other lets be respectful and have manors, if your about hate then keep your negativity to yourselves.

    Peace and Love my human family!

    There's a great book I've read called the Dorito Effect by Mark Schatzker. How flavor tricks the brain, the epidemic rise of the frozen processed dinners in the 50's and 60's. ETC... We have tricked our brains to believe that eating (for example: Chips) is healthy for us. We are driven by flavor. The obesity crisis is the cause and effect from the 50's, 60's and so on.

    Dr. Sebi methods is just another Vegan lifestyle, but I've seen others with Veganism lifestyles that reversed a lot of other sicknesses. Again, My mother and myself have tried the methods and his products. No change whatsoever in the body chemistry, detox, energy levels, blood pressure, etc... So I've tried it.

    This EARTH, this so called nature is actually designed to kill us. Think about it. There's poisonous plants, berries that kill, fruits, frogs, weather, bacteria, viruses, tornados, earthquakes, flooding, cold weather, hot weather, droughts, and the list goes on. We are all just trying to survive.

    There is some truth with His methods, but it's not all true. All vegetables and fruits are literally hybrids from natural evolution. The cucumber is not the same it was 2500 years ago. In fact, us HUMANS are hybrids too.


    The question shouldn't be, where are the cures, but the real question is how can I Prevent from falling into another category of heart failure, diabetes, etc...
  • cerise_noir
    cerise_noir Posts: 5,468 Member
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    jahmalmcqueen wrote: »
    elphie754 wrote: »
    jahmalmcqueen wrote: »
    elphie754 wrote: »
    jahmalmcqueen wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    jahmalmcqueen wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    jahmalmcqueen wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    jahmalmcqueen wrote: »
    Look up Dr Sebi. He has cured people of diabities etc etc. No meat no startch eating a alkaline diet. Trust me do the research. The reason your husband has diabities cause hes acidic and inside his pancreas is mucus, which is the result of food that is acidic. Change his diet and hell save his life.

    This is not correct. If the human body becomes acidic, we die. Our pH range is quite narrow. And I don't believe the pancreas can fill with mucus...

    Vegetarian diets can be healthy, but that is not why.

    My good friend do your research on Dr Sebi. Any food that is acidic is horrible for body. Meat Dairy etc. etc. Acidic foods cause dis-ease in the body. He has cured people with anything from Diabities too sicckle cell anemia. The choice is always up to you to do the research. A Vegan Alkaline diet would change the game. Medical Science has cured nothing they just give chemicals.

    While i agree that medical science is not often helpful for curing chronic diseases. Dr Sebi's ideas do not make sense for me. He says God did not make starch or acidic foods, and that since taken out of Africa they were made to eat starch and blood. He says gorillas did not eat blood....

    I have done research. I agree vegan diets can be healthy but his reasons for it make little sense. I do believe in the power of faith in healing but his ideas aren't going to work for me.

    The man is just too proud of the fact that he does not read books!

    Did you watch the whole thing. Or stop at a point. His basis is that there is only one disease which is mucus. You clean the body of mucus, take herbs and eat a vegan alkaline diet you can cure anything. Any chemical that a doctor prescribes is not good for the body. Chemicals dont cure anything chemicals wont cure anything. Its true Gorillas do not eat meat. He said God didnt create startch or acidic foods because the molecular structure is not complete. Foods that are alkaline have a complete molecular structure and in turn are Gods food and good for the body. And they are not ideas they are facts. He has cured people, he was at court and won. He has documents to prove it. But rem now to the FDA and Big Pharma hes a very dangerous man because if people really understood what he was saying then people would drop the western medical sciences and go to the herbs and being vegan and those such companies and industries would loose there money. Research upon research needs to be done. We live in a "first" world country or society and so sick. Why? Look at our lifestyle look at what we eat. Look at the way we live and who we trust to make sure were getting proper information about our nutrition and life. The BIG picture would let you see that Dr Sebis claims are facts because he has not been guilty of a crime nor has been guilty of not proving documents to prove of his cures.
    The man is a crackpot and dead.

    He did pass away this summer. But a crockpot he is not. Its funny when people have nothing to say they remark with insults. That only shows where your intellect will take you. Please my friend look beyond your own ignorance. I am posting here to help with the ladys husbands diabities not have a debate with myself cause you have nothing to say back cause what you yourself claimed about Dr Sebi was false.

    I am sorry that you got brainwashed by this guy, but he is indeed a fraud. You said he claimed to have cured AIDS with his diet in another thread, which is just false. You can not cure AIDS with diet. To recommend so is irresponsible and can lead to death.

    Apologies its not just eating a vegan diet it is also using his bio mineral cell food to go in and clean everycell in the body of mucus. I was poor in my aproach. But the vegan diet with also cleaning the entire human system, lymphatic, blood etc etc with herbs will show results of a diabetic free person. Rem this though the crazy one in the room isnt really the crazy one he sees something others arnt ready or wont accept.

    Just no. You can't "clean" the human system (even dialysis doesn't "clean" the entire system) nor would you want to. You got brainwashed, and unfortunately in this case, spreading this information, is irresponsible and can lead to lethal consequences.

    Have you done the research. I have. I have known someone who has been cured through dr sebis eating and herbal protocol. You dont know what you are talking about. Ignorance is not bliss my friend. Clean the blood, clean the cells clean the human body and it is no longer sick. Please save me your un investigated comments to your self and do proper research. Dont make claims you know nothing of. Do your research

    Uninvestigative? At least everyone you've been replying to has a basic (at least) understanding of science. That "doctor" doesn't even have a basic grasp of physiology or pharmacology.
  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
    edited March 2017
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    newmeadow wrote: »
    JoeCWV wrote: »
    newmeadow wrote: »
    I said to myself No. No. A pancreas full of mucus? It just can't be.

    But then I found this horrible picture.

    jeog5cvu3r3f.jpg

    Apparently it's a mucous filled bronchogenetic cyst found in the head of the pancreas. So technically, a pancreas can be filled with mucus. Pretty sure it's rare though.

    Well, actually it is the cyst that is full of pus, not mucus. But at least you are giving it a try. Nice pic by the way.

    No way that's pus. It's slimy yellow mucus. Why do you say it's pus?

    https://www.youtube.com/user/DrSandraLee. She's Dr. Pimple Popper and pus galore is showcased in her videos. Just don't watch them, whatever you do. You'll never be the same.

    It could be a big seller as a food aversion tactic, though. :s

    ;)
  • zyxst
    zyxst Posts: 9,134 Member
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    Just posting to roll over from the pancreas.
  • WinoGelato
    WinoGelato Posts: 13,454 Member
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    zyxst wrote: »
    Just posting to roll over from the pancreas.

    THANK YOU!!!
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
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    jahmalmcqueen wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    jahmalmcqueen wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    jahmalmcqueen wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    jahmalmcqueen wrote: »
    Look up Dr Sebi. He has cured people of diabities etc etc. No meat no startch eating a alkaline diet. Trust me do the research. The reason your husband has diabities cause hes acidic and inside his pancreas is mucus, which is the result of food that is acidic. Change his diet and hell save his life.

    This is not correct. If the human body becomes acidic, we die. Our pH range is quite narrow. And I don't believe the pancreas can fill with mucus...

    Vegetarian diets can be healthy, but that is not why.

    My good friend do your research on Dr Sebi. Any food that is acidic is horrible for body. Meat Dairy etc. etc. Acidic foods cause dis-ease in the body. He has cured people with anything from Diabities too sicckle cell anemia. The choice is always up to you to do the research. A Vegan Alkaline diet would change the game. Medical Science has cured nothing they just give chemicals.

    While i agree that medical science is not often helpful for curing chronic diseases. Dr Sebi's ideas do not make sense for me. He says God did not make starch or acidic foods, and that since taken out of Africa they were made to eat starch and blood. He says gorillas did not eat blood....

    I have done research. I agree vegan diets can be healthy but his reasons for it make little sense. I do believe in the power of faith in healing but his ideas aren't going to work for me.

    The man is just too proud of the fact that he does not read books!

    Did you watch the whole thing. Or stop at a point. His basis is that there is only one disease which is mucus. You clean the body of mucus, take herbs and eat a vegan alkaline diet you can cure anything. Any chemical that a doctor prescribes is not good for the body. Chemicals dont cure anything chemicals wont cure anything. Its true Gorillas do not eat meat. He said God didnt create startch or acidic foods because the molecular structure is not complete. Foods that are alkaline have a complete molecular structure and in turn are Gods food and good for the body. And they are not ideas they are facts. He has cured people, he was at court and won. He has documents to prove it. But rem now to the FDA and Big Pharma hes a very dangerous man because if people really understood what he was saying then people would drop the western medical sciences and go to the herbs and being vegan and those such companies and industries would loose there money. Research upon research needs to be done. We live in a "first" world country or society and so sick. Why? Look at our lifestyle look at what we eat. Look at the way we live and who we trust to make sure were getting proper information about our nutrition and life. The BIG picture would let you see that Dr Sebis claims are facts because he has not been guilty of a crime nor has been guilty of not proving documents to prove of his cures.
    The man is a crackpot and dead.

    He did pass away this summer. But a crockpot he is not. Its funny when people have nothing to say they remark with insults. That only shows where your intellect will take you. Please my friend look beyond your own ignorance. I am posting here to help with the ladys husbands diabities not have a debate with myself cause you have nothing to say back cause what you yourself claimed about Dr Sebi was false.

    Why did he die, if he was so much "in the know"?
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
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    newmeadow wrote: »
    snowflake954 wrote: »
    jahmalmcqueen wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    jahmalmcqueen wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    jahmalmcqueen wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    jahmalmcqueen wrote: »
    Look up Dr Sebi. He has cured people of diabities etc etc. No meat no startch eating a alkaline diet. Trust me do the research. The reason your husband has diabities cause hes acidic and inside his pancreas is mucus, which is the result of food that is acidic. Change his diet and hell save his life.

    This is not correct. If the human body becomes acidic, we die. Our pH range is quite narrow. And I don't believe the pancreas can fill with mucus...

    Vegetarian diets can be healthy, but that is not why.

    My good friend do your research on Dr Sebi. Any food that is acidic is horrible for body. Meat Dairy etc. etc. Acidic foods cause dis-ease in the body. He has cured people with anything from Diabities too sicckle cell anemia. The choice is always up to you to do the research. A Vegan Alkaline diet would change the game. Medical Science has cured nothing they just give chemicals.

    While i agree that medical science is not often helpful for curing chronic diseases. Dr Sebi's ideas do not make sense for me. He says God did not make starch or acidic foods, and that since taken out of Africa they were made to eat starch and blood. He says gorillas did not eat blood....

    I have done research. I agree vegan diets can be healthy but his reasons for it make little sense. I do believe in the power of faith in healing but his ideas aren't going to work for me.

    The man is just too proud of the fact that he does not read books!

    Did you watch the whole thing. Or stop at a point. His basis is that there is only one disease which is mucus. You clean the body of mucus, take herbs and eat a vegan alkaline diet you can cure anything. Any chemical that a doctor prescribes is not good for the body. Chemicals dont cure anything chemicals wont cure anything. Its true Gorillas do not eat meat. He said God didnt create startch or acidic foods because the molecular structure is not complete. Foods that are alkaline have a complete molecular structure and in turn are Gods food and good for the body. And they are not ideas they are facts. He has cured people, he was at court and won. He has documents to prove it. But rem now to the FDA and Big Pharma hes a very dangerous man because if people really understood what he was saying then people would drop the western medical sciences and go to the herbs and being vegan and those such companies and industries would loose there money. Research upon research needs to be done. We live in a "first" world country or society and so sick. Why? Look at our lifestyle look at what we eat. Look at the way we live and who we trust to make sure were getting proper information about our nutrition and life. The BIG picture would let you see that Dr Sebis claims are facts because he has not been guilty of a crime nor has been guilty of not proving documents to prove of his cures.
    The man is a crackpot and dead.

    He did pass away this summer. But a crockpot he is not. Its funny when people have nothing to say they remark with insults. That only shows where your intellect will take you. Please my friend look beyond your own ignorance. I am posting here to help with the ladys husbands diabities not have a debate with myself cause you have nothing to say back cause what you yourself claimed about Dr Sebi was false.

    Why did he die, if he was so much "in the know"?

    Okay, but at least he wasn't a crockpot.

    Are you absolutely sure about that?

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