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I have no idea where keto means appetite suppression. On days where I do accidental keto (meaning I eat high fats + low carbs without realizing it), I feel hungry as hell...and it's even worse when I go to the gym. So because you never feel hungry, it doesn't mean keto does that to everyone.
How often do you eat low carb? It is my understanding that for your body to become fat adapted you had to be in ketosis for 3 days to a week (for most people). That may explain your hunger, although keto isn't for everyone, I too don't get as hungry and my cravings have just about disappeared.
That didn't matter for me. I was keto for a few months and was always hungry. Carbs actually satiate me.1 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »Catawampous wrote: »I have a question ... seriously. Why is it folks say keto is soooo restrictive while it's not said to vegans or vegetarians?
Vegetarians and vegans aren't eliminating an entire macro-nutrient. Not eating any animal products would be too restrictive for me, but not as restrictive as eliminating and entire macro. I frequently eat vegetarian...I get plenty of all three macro-nutrients when I do so.
I just find this a double standard. Keto folks eat carbs just not a lot of them. Leafy greens, nuts, berries etc. Some eat more some eat less. So they havent totally eliminated a macro at all. Just reduced it to their preference. I mean sure there are some that take it to zero carb but seems to me most do get some carbs. But others totally eliminate meat and even though its not a macro it's still an elimination and that is apparently ok. They don't get hassled about it because ... reasons.4 -
Catawampous wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Catawampous wrote: »I have a question ... seriously. Why is it folks say keto is soooo restrictive while it's not said to vegans or vegetarians?
Vegetarians and vegans aren't eliminating an entire macro-nutrient. Not eating any animal products would be too restrictive for me, but not as restrictive as eliminating and entire macro. I frequently eat vegetarian...I get plenty of all three macro-nutrients when I do so.
I just find this a double standard. Keto folks eat carbs just not a lot of them. Leafy greens, nuts, berries etc. Some eat more some eat less. So they havent totally eliminated a macro at all. Just reduced it to their preference. I mean sure there are some that take it to zero carb but seems to me most do get some carbs. But others totally eliminate meat and even though its not a macro it's still an elimination and that is apparently ok. They don't get hassled about it because ... reasons.
True, there's a big difference between zero carb and keto, and even within keto, there's a range. Some people stay under 20 gm carbs total/day. Some people are up to 50 gm/day of net carbs (I knew a few who stay in ketosis with even more carbs than that b/c of intense exercise). You can fit a number of servings of non-starchy veggies into that along with nuts, seeds, dairy, maybe some berries.1 -
Catawampous wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Catawampous wrote: »I have a question ... seriously. Why is it folks say keto is soooo restrictive while it's not said to vegans or vegetarians?
Vegetarians and vegans aren't eliminating an entire macro-nutrient. Not eating any animal products would be too restrictive for me, but not as restrictive as eliminating and entire macro. I frequently eat vegetarian...I get plenty of all three macro-nutrients when I do so.
I just find this a double standard. Keto folks eat carbs just not a lot of them. Leafy greens, nuts, berries etc. Some eat more some eat less. So they havent totally eliminated a macro at all. Just reduced it to their preference. I mean sure there are some that take it to zero carb but seems to me most do get some carbs. But others totally eliminate meat and even though its not a macro it's still an elimination and that is apparently ok. They don't get hassled about it because ... reasons.
Lol...you don't think vegetarians and vegans get hassled for their diets? You must live under a rock.
Also, less than 50 grams of carbs per day is basically nothing...effectively you've eliminated an entire macro which is going to substantially restrict you from eating a whole host of foods, not just meat.
Also, I see people frequently comment on vegan diets being overly restrictive if one is just doing it for weight loss or whatever. Most vegans do it for ethical reasons...it's a pretty rigid diet.1 -
Catawampous wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Catawampous wrote: »I have a question ... seriously. Why is it folks say keto is soooo restrictive while it's not said to vegans or vegetarians?
Vegetarians and vegans aren't eliminating an entire macro-nutrient. Not eating any animal products would be too restrictive for me, but not as restrictive as eliminating and entire macro. I frequently eat vegetarian...I get plenty of all three macro-nutrients when I do so.
I just find this a double standard. Keto folks eat carbs just not a lot of them. Leafy greens, nuts, berries etc. Some eat more some eat less. So they havent totally eliminated a macro at all. Just reduced it to their preference. I mean sure there are some that take it to zero carb but seems to me most do get some carbs. But others totally eliminate meat and even though its not a macro it's still an elimination and that is apparently ok. They don't get hassled about it because ... reasons.
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OK last response so I can have some time under my rock.
Vegans have a very rigid diet Never said they didn't. My whole point was I don't see folks getting their undies in a knot over it! It's live and let live until it comes to keto. Then there comes all the so restrictive, eliminating a whole macro comments when for a good portion of people it's a reduction according to their preference and health needs or whatever makes them feel better physically. I don't get why that is so different from other ways of eating. Because there isn't an "ethical reason" behind it? Someone's curiosity is peaked so they seek information whether it's weight loss or other issues and here it all comes!
It's possible I've missed a ton of "vegan/vegetarian don't eat this way threads" ... so there is that.3 -
Catawampous wrote: »OK well keto folks cut out carbs for health reasons too. Or a good portion of them do. Primarily diabetics or IR. I'm not singling you out so please don't take it that way. I've just seen SO many comments about this on keto and virtually none on the other ways of eating. It's just something interesting I've picked up reading the forums.
I think many try keto for weight loss, but I think that those of us who stick with it are usually in it for the health benefits. Which makes sense. It was originally promoted for health reasons. It just works for many for weight loss too (due to appetite suppression, less cravings, and a very slight metabolic benefit - in some).
I call shennigans on that appetite suppressant effect
. Just soo little foods volume. Lol.
LOL My family thinks I am starving myself because there is so little volume to my food. I use a salad plate for most meals. A dinner of a 4oz steak with some butter on it, and some green beans doesn't take up much space. The same goes for when I have nuts for a meal - a few hundred calories of coconut, cacao nibs, macadamia nuts and almonds is just a small bowl!
LCHF is hard on volume eaters!2 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »Catawampous wrote: »I have a question ... seriously. Why is it folks say keto is soooo restrictive while it's not said to vegans or vegetarians?
Vegetarians and vegans aren't eliminating an entire macro-nutrient. Not eating any animal products would be too restrictive for me, but not as restrictive as eliminating and entire macro. I frequently eat vegetarian...I get plenty of all three macro-nutrients when I do so.
Neither are low carbers or keto'ers. Its low carb, and not no-carb.
It's restricting some plant foods. Just restricting it. Whereas vegetarians and vegans eliminate animal products entirely. IDK. They have a similar level of restriction. IMO. If anything vegetarianism almost seems stricter. No animal at all.
I think it comes down to vegetarianism is more socially acceptable. It's been popular longer. I imagine that in North America, 70+ years ago, vegetarians were thought to be quite extreme.4 -
Google low carb recipes or keto recipes. also website dietdoctor.com has recipes (you dont have to buy anything) also lowcarbisland.com there are others
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Catawampous wrote: »OK last response so I can have some time under my rock.
Vegans have a very rigid diet Never said they didn't. My whole point was I don't see folks getting their undies in a knot over it! It's live and let live until it comes to keto. Then there comes all the so restrictive, eliminating a whole macro comments when for a good portion of people it's a reduction according to their preference and health needs or whatever makes them feel better physically. I don't get why that is so different from other ways of eating. Because there isn't an "ethical reason" behind it? Someone's curiosity is peaked so they seek information whether it's weight loss or other issues and here it all comes!
It's possible I've missed a ton of "vegan/vegetarian don't eat this way threads" ... so there is that.
Pretty much any thread with the OP saying "thinking about going vegetarian" or "thinking about going vegan" are going to have numerous people asking why and otherwise giving them crap about it...or simply telling them it's not going to default to weight loss, etc...
And vegans tend to be extremely preachy...I'm not sure who's more religious in the dietary views...keto followers or vegans...they're both right up there in terms of there "this is the healthiest way to eat" zealotry and of course both veganism and keto cure pretty much every disease known to mankind...
ETA: in either case, a lot of people think that the diet itself...whether it's keto or vegan or vegetarian is just going to default to weight loss...what most people point out is that it's not going to and that it's not necessary...in particular, there are loads of people who think you have to cut carbs to lose weight...I don't see anything wrong with educating them otherwise and then if they still want to do it, they can. I was one of those people once upon a time and I was a miserable pile of *kitten* on low carb...but I thought that's what I had to do to drop weight. Now I know better and I can cut weight without being miserable.1 -
I've been on a keto diet since the beginning of March. I'm supposed to be doing on a 5 days on/1 day off basis but still staying within my set MFP calorie limit so I get a steady weight loss. Working out so far, but I actually have more trouble on my days off than any of the others. I spent my last one wandering around the supermarket for about 15 minutes just trying to find something that wouldn't skyrocket over my daily allowance in the first mouthful (I only have a microwave at work so preparing stuff isn't practical). For my next I think I'll just stick to my usual pile of steak & eggs and just top up my carbs with Haribo or something.
Anyway, I don't really have recipes to share. Sometimes I put soy on my steak, sometimes not. Sometimes I put sriracha on everything, sometimes not. I eat so much scrambled eggs it's starting to erode my sanity, but I really hate making decisions about things I find boring (like making meals) so I keep on keepin' on.
@phrobbert I toss frozen protein and some veggies and a little smart balance in a Pyrex and then microwave at work. Sometimes beans or rice, but if you're LC that may not be your thing.
Frozen broccoli, squash, chicken. Frozen spinach, artichoke hearts and cod. Lots of combos! Easy to weigh, just toss the Pyrex on the food scale and then "tare" in between. Also, bone broth heated up in the microwave is good. 9 grams of protein per cup.
Put the protein in between the veggies. That will keep it moist.2 -
I started keto 5 days ago and I'm enjoying the many effects.
My energy is balanced all day long, I don't get fuzzy/tired brain after lunch (very important on days when I work surgeries), no cravings (like someone brought fresh bagels and cream cheese to work and I didn't care - normally I'd be all over it), can now do an early-morning fasted workout without feeling weak and sluggish, I wake up feeling ready for my day every day so far, no mood swings and I'm 5 pounds down from my early March weight.
I still get hungry but I'm not "hunger crazed" like I would get. Of course it's only been 5 days and I'm still waiting for the keto flu to hit me but so far I'm very happy with what I'm doing. I range between 1-10% net carbs, mostly about 5%.5 -
Keto Diet Blog is where I'm getting recipes from so far.0
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I started keto 5 days ago and I'm enjoying the many effects.
My energy is balanced all day long, I don't get fuzzy/tired brain after lunch (very important on days when I work surgeries), no cravings (like someone brought fresh bagels and cream cheese to work and I didn't care - normally I'd be all over it), can now do an early-morning fasted workout without feeling weak and sluggish, I wake up feeling ready for my day every day so far, no mood swings and I'm 5 pounds down from my early March weight.
I still get hungry but I'm not "hunger crazed" like I would get. Of course it's only been 5 days and I'm still waiting for the keto flu to hit me but so far I'm very happy with what I'm doing. I range between 1-10% net carbs, mostly about 5%.
If you increase electrolytes, the "keto flu" (electrolyte imbalance) need never hit. Only those of us who did not believe, or know, that we needed 3000-5000mg of salt per day get it.
Congrats on your success so far.
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If you increase electrolytes, the "keto flu" (electrolyte imbalance) need never hit. Only those of us who did not believe, or know, that we needed 3000-5000mg of salt per day get it.
Congrats on your success so far.
I've read that somewhere too and so I'm drinking about 2 liters natural mineral water daily (imported from Poland from a purifying plant/retreat - I've been there: pretty awesome stuff). It's loaded with balanced sodium, potassium, chloride and magnesium.
It's been almost a week and I'm still good...0 -
Does anyone experience slower muscle recovery on keto?
The post-leg-day soreness is rough the past couple of days. I was sick with a really strong flu for 6 weeks and just got back to the gym so technically it could be just because of the long break. I typically, however, don't experience soreness like this even after a break. My strength was not affected by the break at all, I even resisted fatigue longer (thank you keto) but this soreness is the worst it has been in a long time.0 -
Does anyone experience slower muscle recovery on keto?
The post-leg-day soreness is rough the past couple of days. I was sick with a really strong flu for 6 weeks and just got back to the gym so technically it could be just because of the long break. I typically, however, don't experience soreness like this even after a break. My strength was not affected by the break at all, I even resisted fatigue longer (thank you keto) but this soreness is the worst it has been in a long time.
Myself, no. And the workouts I do are often pretty heavy on the squats/lunges/dips, not to mention the bashing my calves, glutes & quads get when drumming. Are you warming up/down adequately? One instructor swears by hamstring swings for DOMS in the legs in order to increase blood flow (as in, just swinging your legs until your feel your hamstrings engage at the upper end).0 -
Does anyone experience slower muscle recovery on keto?
The post-leg-day soreness is rough the past couple of days. I was sick with a really strong flu for 6 weeks and just got back to the gym so technically it could be just because of the long break. I typically, however, don't experience soreness like this even after a break. My strength was not affected by the break at all, I even resisted fatigue longer (thank you keto) but this soreness is the worst it has been in a long time.
I have found L-glutamine helps with that somewhat.2 -
Catawampous wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Catawampous wrote: »I have a question ... seriously. Why is it folks say keto is soooo restrictive while it's not said to vegans or vegetarians?
Vegetarians and vegans aren't eliminating an entire macro-nutrient. Not eating any animal products would be too restrictive for me, but not as restrictive as eliminating and entire macro. I frequently eat vegetarian...I get plenty of all three macro-nutrients when I do so.
I just find this a double standard. Keto folks eat carbs just not a lot of them. Leafy greens, nuts, berries etc. Some eat more some eat less. So they havent totally eliminated a macro at all. Just reduced it to their preference. I mean sure there are some that take it to zero carb but seems to me most do get some carbs. But others totally eliminate meat and even though its not a macro it's still an elimination and that is apparently ok. They don't get hassled about it because ... reasons.
I think you will find vegans get hassled all the time. For the same reason some on keto do. The majority of people don't care whether you are vegan, vegetarian, keto or whatever. What they do mind is the fanatics who continually preach their diets, believing that their way is more superior, or the only healthy diet. Personally, if the diet works for you, is healthy, balanced and you are meeting all of your nutritional needs in a manner that you can sustain long term then that is brilliant. Just recognise that this will look different for others.2
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