Fasting and the myths?

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kenzienal

filbo132 wrote: »

kenzienal wrote: »

You’re either eating more calories than you think you are (due to any combination of underestimating, under reporting, miscalculating, etc. etc. etc. additional details here), burning less calories than you think you are, or both… and no consistent deficit is present.

This was my point of why I think I am okay with calories. Obviously I am logging my calorie intake as less than it truly is, and my calories burned as more than i truly burned. Therefore no deficit.

Removing breakfast from my agenda would create that deficit. Correct?

The trick is knowing your maintenance. How I do it is by reverse dieting. For example, when I finish cutting, every week I will add 150 calories to my food until I see that I am no longer losing or gaining weight. When that happens, I know I am at maintenance...from there I start my bulk by adding 250 calories. And I do the opposite when I am at the end of my bulk. I reduce my calories by 150 every week until I notice there's no change in my weight. That is when I know where my maintenance is at...I then substract my maintenance by 500 calories so I can begin my cut (why 500 calories???, because to lose a pound per week, you need to be in a deficit by 3500 calories weekly = 7 days X 500 calories).

Okay, starting to speak a foreign language to me. Bulking, cutting. Not my territory.

Understand the 3500cal = 1lb part.

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kenzienal

Hate to admit it but I am only a month and a half in to working out. I have yet to find what actually works for my body, or been able to understand my body to a future degree than "oh that makes my stomach hurt, oh that makes me bloated" etc.

I'm learning.

jessiferrrb

kenzienal wrote: »

You’re either eating more calories than you think you are (due to any combination of underestimating, under reporting, miscalculating, etc. etc. etc. additional details here), burning less calories than you think you are, or both… and no consistent deficit is present.

This was my point of why I think I am okay with calories. Obviously I am logging my calorie intake as less than it truly is, and my calories burned as more than i truly burned. Therefore no deficit.

Removing breakfast from my agenda would create that deficit. Correct?

if you're not compensating at other meals, sure. i personally find it much easier to log my intake as accurately as possible and take the guess work out of it so i can relax.

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fitbethlin

I think the idea that occasionally or routinely skipping a specific "meal" could cause an eating disorder seems totally bizarre to me. Apparently, that's the general line of a bunch of professionals though. So your family is clearly not just making things up, but I don't think that means that obsessively eating at proscribed times sounds like a much healthier attitude.

I think I like this phrasing a lot better, "Normal eating is not how much or what you eat, but your attitude towards food and eating. Eating that is not normal is not so much about what you do (eg. skipping meals, restricting food, overeating) but about the thinking behind it, how often it happens, and the feeling that you have to eat this way." Eating disorders are a psychological problem with physical symptoms. If you skip breakfast because you like the way your body works better when you do so, that doesn't seem like disordered eating to me. If you skip breakfast because you are obsessed with losing weight and you really wish you could just have some sunny side up eggs....that seems disordered.

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