Dieting vs Flexable dieting

livingleanlivingclean

Sharon_C wrote: »

livingleanlivingclean wrote: »

Pam_Shebamm wrote: »

livingleanlivingclean wrote: »

What is non flexible dieting?

Macro counting.

Where I'm from, IIFYM is generally considered flexible dieting.... Not non flexible dieting...

Neither has anything to do with the amount of calories you eat a day.

All diets are technically IIFYM. People eat what they choose (flexible) and make it fit their macros (whatever they are to them)

That's not true. I've been doing IIFYM for about a year and a half. I still have a calorie goal I stay under. I set my daily calorie goal then work my protein, fat and carbs goal around the calories I eat in a day.

I never said there wasn't a calorie goal.
The OP said "non flexible" dieting was eating the same amount of cals every day. IIFYM has nothing to do with eating different calories every day...

mph323

I think the problem here is the OP posted a really ambiguous question then bailed so we can't get any clarification on the meaning. It does sound like they were using IIFYM as synonymous with "flexible dieting" with the way the question was worded ("ratio" is often used as in "macro ratio"), but it's unclear what is meant by just "diet". I'm guessing CICO (as in "I'm using the CICO diet to lose weight") since people so often misunderstand the difference between calories in vs calories out and a way of eating (IIFYM or HCLF or Keto or a multitude of other approaches to achieve a CICO balance). Frustrating.

edited to close parens cause ima dork...

rollerjog

i think some people are over thinking the question, i already know what regular dieting is and flexable dieting is , i just wanted to know what other people think about it, if one worked better than the other, and what one they like the best , ,also what ratio are they using, what i mean by that is with flexable dieting some people use 80% to 90% of the calories they take in a day from natural type foods, the other 10% to 20% of food is junk food or process food, thats all im asking , its kinda like the ford vs chevy thing

mph323

rollerjog wrote: »

i think some people are over thinking the question, i already know what regular dieting is and flexable dieting is , i just wanted to know what other people think about it, if one worked better than the other, and what one they like the best , ,also what ratio are they using, what i mean by that is with flexable dieting some people use 80% to 90% of the calories they take in a day from natural type foods, the other 10% to 20% of food is junk food or process food, thats all im asking , its kinda like the ford vs chevy thing

Welcome back

I don't worry about whether my food is "natural" or what? unatural? I eat a lot of processed food, some fresh, and focus mainly on protein at this point. I eat within my calorie allowance most of the time, eat back a few of my exercise calories, and have lost 30 lbs over the last year. This is what works for me - other strategies will work for other people.

livingleanlivingclean

rollerjog wrote: »

i think some people are over thinking the question, i already know what regular dieting is and flexable dieting is , i just wanted to know what other people think about it, if one worked better than the other, and what one they like the best , ,also what ratio are they using, what i mean by that is with flexable dieting some people use 80% to 90% of the calories they take in a day from natural type foods, the other 10% to 20% of food is junk food or process food, thats all im asking , its kinda like the ford vs chevy thing

But you still haven't explained what you mean by dieting vs flexible dieting.

CICO works however you do it, and is the basis for all ways of eating to lose weight (or maintain or gain, whatever your goals happen to be)

kimny72

rollerjog wrote: »

i think some people are over thinking the question, i already know what regular dieting is and flexable dieting is , i just wanted to know what other people think about it, if one worked better than the other, and what one they like the best , ,also what ratio are they using, what i mean by that is with flexable dieting some people use 80% to 90% of the calories they take in a day from natural type foods, the other 10% to 20% of food is junk food or process food, thats all im asking , its kinda like the ford vs chevy thing

Do you mean "eating clean" compared to "eat whatever you want"?

Because my idea of "dieting" is eating some special diet to lose weight, which you will stop eating once you hit goal, like jenny craig, or atkins, or getting light butter and no fat dairy.

And my idea of "flexible dieting" is not worrying so much about what you eat, just hitting your calorie goal.

But I don't think that's what you mean?

I pay no attention to whether my food fits some fancy definition, I guess you could say I eat about 50% whole food and 50% processed if I had to guess. I just eat what I like that fills me up for the right amount of calories. <shrug>

sijomial

rollerjog wrote: »

i think some people are over thinking the question, i already know what regular dieting is and flexable dieting is , i just wanted to know what other people think about it, if one worked better than the other, and what one they like the best , ,also what ratio are they using, what i mean by that is with flexable dieting some people use 80% to 90% of the calories they take in a day from natural type foods, the other 10% to 20% of food is junk food or process food, thats all im asking , its kinda like the ford vs chevy thing

Now define "junk food" or "process food".
You will find there isn't a common definition of either.

I had take away this evening - is it "junk food" because it's fast food?
( I would say not junk as it was grilled lean meat, salad and pitta bread. Others may claim if it's not home cooked it must be junk.)

But some of it was definitely processed - meat was marinated and cooked, bread doesn't grow on trees, jalapenos don't pickle themselves....

lemurcat12

rollerjog wrote: »

i think some people are over thinking the question, i already know what regular dieting is and flexable dieting is

The problem is that WE don't have a clue what you meant by it or thinks they mean. I believe I know what flexible dieting is (and explained above), but regular dieting includes a huge variety of things, including flexible dieting, so how do I compare and contrast them. What do you think the two things are?

what ratio are they using, what i mean by that is with flexable dieting some people use 80% to 90% of the calories they take in a day from natural type foods, the other 10% to 20% of food is junk food or process food, thats all im asking , its kinda like the ford vs chevy thing

I think a lot of processed foods are quite nutrient dense, like plain greek yogurt, cottage cheese, smoked salmon, canned tomatoes, dried pasta, canned beans. I wouldn't call any of these things junk food.

I don't think a percentage (by what, calories or volume) makes sense for how much "extras" I'd eat in a day. Mostly I focus on mostly eating nutrient dense foods and getting in what I need/like to have: my protein goal, healthy sources of fat, lots of vegetables (at all meals), some legumes or whole grains, some fruit. With my calorie allowance I also add extras to meals just for taste (fattier cuts of meat, cheese, olive oil, maybe refined grains, or a restaurant meal (usually nutrient dense but higher cal than anything I'd make at home), and/or have a dessert (a little something besides a meal just for fun). A dessert in my mind is not only sweet and would include something like some after-dinner cheese.

livingleanlivingclean

kimny72 wrote: »

rollerjog wrote: »

i think some people are over thinking the question, i already know what regular dieting is and flexable dieting is , i just wanted to know what other people think about it, if one worked better than the other, and what one they like the best , ,also what ratio are they using, what i mean by that is with flexable dieting some people use 80% to 90% of the calories they take in a day from natural type foods, the other 10% to 20% of food is junk food or process food, thats all im asking , its kinda like the ford vs chevy thing

Do you mean "eating clean" compared to "eat whatever you want"?

Because my idea of "dieting" is eating some special diet to lose weight, which you will stop eating once you hit goal, like jenny craig, or atkins, or getting light butter and no fat dairy.

And my idea of "flexible dieting" is not worrying so much about what you eat, just hitting your calorie goal.

But I don't think that's what you mean?

I pay no attention to whether my food fits some fancy definition, I guess you could say I eat about 50% whole food and 50% processed if I had to guess. I just eat what I like that fills me up for the right amount of calories. <shrug>

If you choose to eat clean, isn't that eating whatever you want? And what's clean? And isn't there flexibility in having the choice to eat the food you think appropriate? (I'm not arguing or having a go at you.... Just highlighting that the main point is, well, pointless)