Do you ever follow a binge with a fast?
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The very rare day when I'm not hungry the next day, sure. But otherwise I just go back to my normal deficit.
I envy the people who 'are still so full from last night's dinner'.
I think I know how you feel. I think by perpetually eating by daily allowance (deficit for losing) you never get true full and train your body to feel satisfied.
These days It seems like every weekend I go to a buffet restaurant or a pizza place where I intentionally eat as much as possible (short of getting myself sick of course) -- good for the body, mind, and the pocket. I'd love to be able to eat enough to cover the next 2, 3 meals. That would save me time and money.
After such a big meal I won't get hungry for at least 12 hours. After 24 hours a simple sandwich or a bagel + a vitamin drink is sufficient for the next 8 hours!
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TimothyFish wrote: »Some people say that the best thing to do after you have a big meal is to wait until you are hungry again before you eat again. I see no reason why that shouldn't work with a binge as well. While it may not offset all of the extra calories, skipping meals until you are hungry again won't set you up for the regular binge/starve cycle because you don't allow yourself to get so hungry that you have trouble controlling your eating.
A reason could be that binge eating is out of control eating, you eat beyond full, and you don't react rationally to hunger either.
Imtroducing a regular eating pattern and going back to it as soon as possible after slipups is a way to get back control over one's eating.3 -
I never fast. I just start the next day and get back on track. In fact, I don't think I could fast. Ever.1
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I don't think I 'binge' as that seems to imply out of control eating, but I do usually fast on Mondays because I like to overeat on the weekends. I just started doing this a couple of months ago but it's working really well so far.1
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domeofstars wrote: »I had a binge a few weeks ago, and the next day I fasted. I actually found it to be a relief from calorie counting, weighing food, planning out what my meals and snacks were within my calorie limits etc. I know what triggered the binge, and its more uncomfortable emotions I am dealing with rather than feeling overly restricted with my diet though. So I am not sure if I will fast tomorrow or just get back to eating in my usual calorie deficit, or if maybe I should just eat in maintenance for the next few days and give myself a break from dieting. I am going to sleep on it as its 11pm here in Sydney, so night night mfp. Will check this thread when I wake up in the morning on my way to work.
So if this is something that happens every couple of weeks, I would be concerned that this could develop into a binge/restrict disorder. I think there are some different things you could consider:- Can you come up with a better way to deal with whatever triggered your binges?
- Is your diet too restrictive? Even if a binge is a reaction to an emotional experience, if your diet is too restrictive it could be making the comfort eating worse. Like you could have just reacted by eating 300 calories of cookies, but because your diet is too restrictive, that 300 cals turned into a binge.
- Does giving yourself permission to fast the next day make a binge more likely?
I won't pretend to know if any of those ideas pertain to you, or what your answers would be if they do. I have never had a legit binge, though I have had nights where I went overboard on the comfort eating and ended up over maintenance calories. I never restrict after those, as I found that the lower cal next day basically kept me uncomfortable and out of balance, and made it harder for me to get back on plan. But I get hangry super easily, so I'm not the best example!2 -
Sometimes I feel like I want to binge but I've learned to snap out of it. If I did binge however, I'd just resume my normal nutritional plan the next day and so on. I may or may not get a little extra exercise to even things out over the week.0
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kschwab0203 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »What is a binge exactly?
I don't think I've ever had a "binge"...I've had days when I overeat for sure...party or BBQ or holiday or whatever...but I just go about my business afterwards.
For me a "binge" is when I eat compulsively, almost as if I can't control it...there are usually negative emtions attached to it...it's a little more than just eating a little too much
Yup. Usually on calorie dense treat foods, chips, chocolate, pastries, donuts, that sort of thing.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »doing a rather low calorie day the day after a binge is an EXCELLENT tool to keep the binge from making an impact on your weight/diet/morale!
Problems can occur when this is punitive, and part of a disordered relationship with food, and a creation or continuation of a binge/restrict cycle.
i hear you. it's not like that to me, i'm simply saying "i have a calorie budget, and i went way over yesterday, so i have limited calories today". i do 9900 calories per week and if i do 2500 in one day, then i have to have lower calorie days if i still want to lose weight that week. no emotions about it.1 -
Assuming we're not talking one time, your question actually describes bulimia... Just sayin'.0
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lasvegasconcertgirl wrote: »Assuming we're not talking one time, your question actually describes bulimia... Just sayin'.
Not if there's no purge. Bulimics binge then purge. When it's just binging it's binge eating disorder.2 -
I know someone who used to do this...she was diagnosed EDNOS (Eating Disorder Not Otherwise Specified)0
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Having dealt with anorexia and bulimia myself, fasting after a binge is the worst thing you can do. It can lead to a full on eating disorder.1
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i hold myself accountable by logging every delicious morsel.... and then i start fresh the next day. i have, unintentionally, ended up fasting but it was mostly due to feeling bloated and blah from eating badly and too much. i IF anyways, so that may be another reason why having a binge would throw me way off.0
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kschwab0203 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »What is a binge exactly?
I don't think I've ever had a "binge"...I've had days when I overeat for sure...party or BBQ or holiday or whatever...but I just go about my business afterwards.
For me a "binge" is when I eat compulsively, almost as if I can't control it...there are usually negative emtions attached to it...it's a little more than just eating a little too much
This is what my answer was going to be. Its far, far worse than just overeating to me.
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I think deliberately fasting the next day can spiral into the binge/restrict cycle, BUT if you really arent hungry, then just don't eat as much. Listening to your body is more important than the mental side of trying to restrict to make up for the binge.0
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cwolfman13 wrote: »I know someone who used to do this...she was diagnosed EDNOS (Eating Disorder Not Otherwise Specified)
I was an anorexic binge/purge subtype and if I'm not careful still fall into this cycle0 -
endlessfall16 wrote: »The very rare day when I'm not hungry the next day, sure. But otherwise I just go back to my normal deficit.
I envy the people who 'are still so full from last night's dinner'.
I think I know how you feel. I think by perpetually eating by daily allowance (deficit for losing) you never get true full and train your body to feel satisfied.
These days It seems like every weekend I go to a buffet restaurant or a pizza place where I intentionally eat as much as possible (short of getting myself sick of course) -- good for the body, mind, and the pocket. I'd love to be able to eat enough to cover the next 2, 3 meals. That would save me time and money.
After such a big meal I won't get hungry for at least 12 hours. After 24 hours a simple sandwich or a bagel + a vitamin drink is sufficient for the next 8 hours!
Yeah I wish. I eat more every Sunday actually because it's when we meet with my friends (usually 1000 over maintenance, which was 3400 last week, but still gave me enough of a deficit that week to lose half a pound). Still hungry the next morning. The only time I was not hungry the next day is after 2 days of eating 4500 calories at Christmas 2 (3?) years ago.
I was 1000 over maintenance yesterday. Now it's 6.30am and my stomach is growling.0 -
I just eat when I’m hungry the next day, which isn’t until 5pm usually.0
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StealthHealth wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »Tried that, backfired spectacularly and just led to more binging.
My experience also. I'm much better at avoiding binge type behaviour these days but when I over indulge, I tend to shrug it off and eat normally (to plan) the next day.
Me three.
I just go at it harder the next day. Also I’m at the point in which I am trying to determine what set me off. And not do that again. Or as much.
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Yes, and it’s part of binging disorder that I’m working through. It’s not a great cycle to create for yourself if you can avoid it.0
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Nope. I just try to resume normal eating. I also have a history of bulimia...so binge/fast/binge/fast etc is something I personally know just doesn't work out. I've also found that when we really do eat in a way that fulfills us, fuels us and doesnt mentally feel restrictive (we work in our favorites) then I really don't binge at all. Eat an extra snack or two? sure. but full on can't stop eating everything in sight? nah.1
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Not usually... it tends to worsen my issues/relationship with food.0
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