Anyone else trying to lose fat & build muscle-

rahimlj

30lbs by summer? Sorry but no. That would be a massive deficit and people are almost always wrong on their estimates as to how much they have to lose unless they are going off of accurate body fat percentages.

Say we consider June to be summer. You have 2 months. The recommended is 1lb lost a week. 4lbs a month. At a deficit of 500 calories a day.

Extreme weight loss would be 2lbs a week at 8lbs a month, with a daily deficit of 1000.

You're looking to double that at a daily deficit of over 2000 calories on order to lose 30lbs by summer. You would quite literally be starving yourself.

Weight loss takes time. So buckle up and settle in for the long ride

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l meant about july. hmm i thought even if i didnt have such a large defecit that if i ate really healthy it might come off fast. Someone else said they lost almost 3 in 3 months or so i think. l have tried 800 calories a day before and sometimes even less. That definitely wasnt good for me. Well a defecit of 2000 is just way too much for me and yea youre right i guess i would be starving myself.

Lol man. i guess its just hard because l just dont really feel comfortable in my body anymore. So i was thinking what if im able to lose 30 by summer but i guess youre right that probably wont happen.

rahimlj

figureitout87 wrote: »

I'm just restarting my strength training, so I'm working on my strength while trying to lose about 10 pounds. I'm not trying to lose super fast, so so far I am seeing the results I want but I will be reassessing once I reach my first goal.

Thats good ! have you tried body weight exercises ? like planks and stuff aswell to strengthen your core ? ..

Spliner1969

rsclause wrote: »

I think you will need to lose the fat first. You can still lift to preserve muscle and possibly tone a bit I don't think it possible to get bulk on a deficit.

I'd have to agree here. At the very least, get to your goal weight or a hair below it, and/or lose the visible fat you want to lose first. It'll take 10x longer to lose the fat while in recomp, and it'll probably not go away much at all in a bulk. I went 5 lbs below my goal weight then slowly worked my way up to maintenance levels for recomp. The two months while working up slowly to my maintenance calories I managed to lose 5 more pounds so I ended up at maintenance 10lbs below my goal weight. I had a small layer of fat around the midsection left, and after over six months of recomp at or slightly above maintenance levels I still have that small layer of fat. It has gone nowhere. I have managed to build some muscle, probably at the rate I expected, but the fat.. it's there to stay until I decide to do a cut. I've gained about seven pounds doing this (but still a few pounds under my original goal weight) so I hope it's probably 80% muscle, but it's probably closer to 60% muscle. Hard to tell until I do a cut.

So decide what you want the most, the fat gone, or muscle added because one thing doesn't equal the other. My personal goal is to lose the last of the fat in m midsection this summer, I'm waiting on warmer weather then intend to do a 250cal/day deficit for as long as it takes. I'll keep protein high, and will still not be anywhere near going hungry (I'm 6'2" tall and work out 4-5 days a week for up to 90 minutes a day) so it won't be that hard, but until warmer weather sets in sometime in May I'm going to just keep on recomping.

Edit: You can lose fat and build muscle in a slight deficit unlike some will argue. If you have ample fat stores and you've been at it long enough for your body to get better (not perfect) at burning that fat for energy, you can build a little. It'll be super slow though, and it'll feel like you're spinning your wheels as far as strength gains. For the most part it's just not going to happen in a deficit, but that's not a reason to skip weight training while dieting.

rahimlj

I'd have to agree here. At the very least, get to your goal weight or a hair below it, and/or lose the visible fat you want to lose first. It'll take 10x longer to lose the fat while in recomp, and it'll probably not go away much at all in a bulk. I went 5 lbs below my goal weight then slowly worked my way up to maintenance levels for recomp. The two months while working up slowly to my maintenance calories I managed to lose 5 more pounds so I ended up at maintenance 10lbs below my goal weight. I had a small layer of fat around the midsection left, and after over six months of recomp at or slightly above maintenance levels I still have that small layer of fat. It has gone nowhere. I have managed to build some muscle, probably at the rate I expected, but the fat.. it's there to stay until I decide to do a cut. I've gained about seven pounds doing this (but still a few pounds under my original goal weight) so I hope it's probably 80% muscle, but it's probably closer to 60% muscle. Hard to tell until I do a cut.

So decide what you want the most, the fat gone, or muscle added because one thing doesn't equal the other. My personal goal is to lose the last of the fat in m midsection this summer, I'm waiting on warmer weather then intend to do a 250cal/day deficit for as long as it takes. I'll keep protein high, and will still not be anywhere near going hungry (I'm 6'2" tall and work out 4-5 days a week for up to 90 minutes a day) so it won't be that hard, but until warmer weather sets in sometime in May I'm going to just keep on recomping.

Edit: You can lose fat and build muscle in a slight deficit unlike some will argue. If you have ample fat stores and you've been at it long enough for your body to get better (not perfect) at burning that fat for energy, you can build a little. It'll be super slow though, and it'll feel like you're spinning your wheels as far as strength gains. For the most part it's just not going to happen in a deficit, but that's not a reason to skip weight training while dieting.[/quote]

Hmmm really. Man i dont want it to be that long. Oh really. Damn 6 months later. So me trying to lose weight so fast is really not possible. Oh truuue. What is like your goal for body fat % if you have one ? ..
Well it seems like you are able to work out for a long period. l can at times but for me i dont feel like im consistent. 90 minuites even 4 days a week feels so long for me even though lf l was able to do that lt would be good.
Kudos to you though lol.

Hmmm. l did weight training 2 days this week roughly. But eating less calories i def felt less energy but i did increase my cals a bit after reading what some people said on here. But yea deff i dont want to stop weight training thats def not an excuse to but i guess until i really get down to around my goal weight then i can really do a lot of weight training for a long period of time. Tnx everyone btw !

jessef593

rahimlj wrote: »

30lbs by summer? Sorry but no. That would be a massive deficit and people are almost always wrong on their estimates as to how much they have to lose unless they are going off of accurate body fat percentages.

Say we consider June to be summer. You have 2 months. The recommended is 1lb lost a week. 4lbs a month. At a deficit of 500 calories a day.

Extreme weight loss would be 2lbs a week at 8lbs a month, with a daily deficit of 1000.

You're looking to double that at a daily deficit of over 2000 calories on order to lose 30lbs by summer. You would quite literally be starving yourself.

Weight loss takes time. So buckle up and settle in for the long ride

l meant about july. hmm i thought even if i didnt have such a large defecit that if i ate really healthy it might come off fast. Someone else said they lost almost 3 in 3 months or so i think. l have tried 800 calories a day before and sometimes even less. That definitely wasnt good for me. Well a defecit of 2000 is just way too much for me and yea youre right i guess i would be starving myself.

Lol man. i guess its just hard because l just dont really feel comfortable in my body anymore. So i was thinking what if im able to lose 30 by summer but i guess youre right that probably wont happen.

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Sorry to say that what you eat has almost no effect on weight loss. It's all about how much you eat. There was a university professor that taught nutrition and as an experiment and proof to his students he went on a several month diet where all he ate was junk food. Chips, icecream, and candy. As he thought, as long as he maintained a deficit he still lost body fat at and equal rate to someone eating a more nutritionally dense diet while still in a deficit

rahimlj

What the heck ! are you serious. Thats insane. But i guess it is better to eat healthier but wow thats surprising that it doesnt effect your weight loss really.

rahimlj

jessef593 wrote: »

rahimlj wrote: »

30lbs by summer? Sorry but no. That would be a massive deficit and people are almost always wrong on their estimates as to how much they have to lose unless they are going off of accurate body fat percentages.

Say we consider June to be summer. You have 2 months. The recommended is 1lb lost a week. 4lbs a month. At a deficit of 500 calories a day.

Extreme weight loss would be 2lbs a week at 8lbs a month, with a daily deficit of 1000.

You're looking to double that at a daily deficit of over 2000 calories on order to lose 30lbs by summer. You would quite literally be starving yourself.

Weight loss takes time. So buckle up and settle in for the long ride

l meant about july. hmm i thought even if i didnt have such a large defecit that if i ate really healthy it might come off fast. Someone else said they lost almost 3 in 3 months or so i think. l have tried 800 calories a day before and sometimes even less. That definitely wasnt good for me. Well a defecit of 2000 is just way too much for me and yea youre right i guess i would be starving myself.

Lol man. i guess its just hard because l just dont really feel comfortable in my body anymore. So i was thinking what if im able to lose 30 by summer but i guess youre right that probably wont happen.

Sorry to say that what you eat has almost no effect on weight loss. It's all about how much you eat. There was a university professor that taught nutrition and as an experiment and proof to his students he went on a several month diet where all he ate was junk food. Chips, icecream, and candy. As he thought, as long as he maintained a deficit he still lost body fat at and equal rate to someone eating a more nutritionally dense diet while still in a deficit

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l guess he was able to actually enjoy a lot of his food haha & other people were having kale smoothies probably lol

Sharpiejasspring

I have started a kettle bell training program, 3 times a week along with a low carb/high fat diet - refilling on carbs before and after training. I have lost 11lbs in 5 weeks so all going good for me.

I am also making sure all my food is 'real', as in nothing that it prepackaged and contains any preservatives ect. It is a lot easier to maintain than I thought it would be.

rahimlj

Sharpiejasspring wrote: »

I have started a kettle bell training program, 3 times a week along with a low carb/high fat diet - refilling on carbs before and after training. I have lost 11lbs in 5 weeks so all going good for me.

I am also making sure all my food is 'real', as in nothing that it prepackaged and contains any preservatives ect. It is a lot easier to maintain than I thought it would be.

- Thats good so i guess maybe your body is in ketosis possibly.. Thats good. l guess whole foods are way better. Too much crap in those packaged foods. -