A calorie is not a calorie - kind of!

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  • Krby13
    Krby13 Posts: 63 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Krby13 wrote: »
    If everyone is in agreement against the OP's post why does everyone reply basically saying the same thing? If the first 1 or 2 people to reply already put the OP's argument to bed, why do 50 more people feel the need to reply with their own version of the same exact answer? Just to really drill the point home that the OP is wrong? If you want to show you agree with another poster's response to the OP why not just hit the "like" button and move on? Or respond with "ditto" or "agreed" or something like that? As I go through many of these posts it just stands out to me that most discussions are just muddied by everyone actually saying the same thing over and over again.

    it is a public forum and everyone is free to comment, even those that don't address the topic.

    Never said people can't comment, just was wondering why people repeat the same info if they see it's been said already. And I've gotten some good varied answers.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    Krby13 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Krby13 wrote: »
    If everyone is in agreement against the OP's post why does everyone reply basically saying the same thing? If the first 1 or 2 people to reply already put the OP's argument to bed, why do 50 more people feel the need to reply with their own version of the same exact answer? Just to really drill the point home that the OP is wrong? If you want to show you agree with another poster's response to the OP why not just hit the "like" button and move on? Or respond with "ditto" or "agreed" or something like that? As I go through many of these posts it just stands out to me that most discussions are just muddied by everyone actually saying the same thing over and over again.

    it is a public forum and everyone is free to comment, even those that don't address the topic.

    Never said people can't comment, just was wondering why people repeat the same info if they see it's been said already. And I've gotten some good varied answers.

    Didn't read the whole thread, believed (rightly or wrongly) that our two cents were sufficiently different so that they were worth adding.

    I didn't actually think everyone was saying the same thing here.
  • cerise_noir
    cerise_noir Posts: 5,468 Member
    Krby13 wrote: »
    If everyone is in agreement against the OP's post why does everyone reply basically saying the same thing? If the first 1 or 2 people to reply already put the OP's argument to bed, why do 50 more people feel the need to reply with their own version of the same exact answer? Just to really drill the point home that the OP is wrong? If you want to show you agree with another poster's response to the OP why not just hit the "like" button and move on? Or respond with "ditto" or "agreed" or something like that? As I go through many of these posts it just stands out to me that most discussions are just muddied by everyone actually saying the same thing over and over again.

    Very constructive post........not.

    Power in numbers. ;)
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    Sometimes I'm just bored...
  • GottaBurnEmAll
    GottaBurnEmAll Posts: 7,722 Member
    edited April 2017
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    kimny72 wrote: »
    Are we now required to have at least one thread every day with some variation of the title " A calorie is not just a calorie" "Is a calorie just a calorie?" "All calories are not created equal" "Are all calories the same?" :dizzy:

    And molasses is nasty, unless a small amount is used in cookies. I didn't even like it when we did that "swirl molasses in snow to make candy like the pilgrims did" thing in grade school. Blech.

    It's awesome in barbecue sauce. My homemade Kansas City-style recipe includes (among other things) molasses, honey, dark corn syrup and brown sugar. So the molasses vs. honey thing is a moot point because I use both. :D

    Anyone who grew up in Eastern Pennsylvania and visited Amish country has likely had Shoofly Pie. It's on the order of pecan pie, but instead of corn syrup, it uses molasses, and instead of pecans, there's a spiced crumb topping.

    I loved the stuff, and I'm not overly keen on the taste of molasses.

    As to the topic of the thread, I'm sure Shoofly pie has lots of calories, which are a unit of energy measurement. Its nutrition content (micronutrients and macronutrients) is a different matter.

    I've made these kinds of analogy before. I knit. Yarn is measured in yards, but that doesn't tell you anything about the type of yarn I'm using because yards are units of measurements and the fiber type I'm using is a different matter entirely and no one with any sort of sense would mistake wool/silk/acrylic/linen/whatever for a unit of length.

    Why people keep conflating a unit of energy with nutrition content when it comes to food is beyond me.
  • Tacklewasher
    Tacklewasher Posts: 7,122 Member
    Krby13 wrote: »
    Krby13 wrote: »
    If everyone is in agreement against the OP's post why does everyone reply basically saying the same thing? If the first 1 or 2 people to reply already put the OP's argument to bed, why do 50 more people feel the need to reply with their own version of the same exact answer? Just to really drill the point home that the OP is wrong? If you want to show you agree with another poster's response to the OP why not just hit the "like" button and move on? Or respond with "ditto" or "agreed" or something like that? As I go through many of these posts it just stands out to me that most discussions are just muddied by everyone actually saying the same thing over and over again.

    For me, I tend to respond at work, so I'll frequently start answering a question, have to stop to work, and will eventually get back to finishing it while on break. By then, a lot of people will have probably said what I've said a bunch of times lol

    I just like piling on is all.

    :)

    Lol. I like that you can admit that. Honesty is always refreshing

    Oh, were you expecting an honest answer?
  • Annie_01
    Annie_01 Posts: 3,096 Member
    dewd2 wrote: »
    Annie_01 wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Hi Annie,
    agree with you - and I am glad you find that remotely helpful. I for one was using honey before but since molasses and honey have pretty much the same caloric and macronutrient composition but differ significantly on a micro level I switched to molasses.

    If you adjust for what's an actual serving size (depending on how you use them), they probably don't differ that much. A TBSP of either isn't going to have many nutrients.

    Anyway, curious how you use them, as they are both kind of rare for me. I know some like honey in tea, I don't sweeten tea although it's supposed to be good for a sore throat. Molasses doesn't seem to work for that, but since I don't do it am not an expert, of course. Mostly I use honey for recipes (occasional sauce) and again for the small amount I wouldn't sacrifice the specific taste of honey (which is amazing). Molasses is good in some specific baked goods, similarly (I rarely bake anymore, though). Those are pretty much the only ways I use either, so changing it up would make no difference nutritionally.

    I think that some people use molasses on pancakes/waffles. Other than that I would think that baking or some sauces would be the most common usage. When I am adhering to my sodium restrictions I make a soy sauce substitute that uses molasses. By itself it doesn't taste so much like soy sauce but in the recipe it only changes the taste minimally. I am lazy about making it so instead I just found a tamari that is 50% less sodium than soy sauce.

    Don't confuse "King Syrup" with molasses. I know some folks refer to think of King Syrup as molasses and use it on their pancakes and waffles. Not the same.

    Personally...I like honey on my waffles...along with a little peanut butter.
  • Krby13
    Krby13 Posts: 63 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Krby13 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Krby13 wrote: »
    If everyone is in agreement against the OP's post why does everyone reply basically saying the same thing? If the first 1 or 2 people to reply already put the OP's argument to bed, why do 50 more people feel the need to reply with their own version of the same exact answer? Just to really drill the point home that the OP is wrong? If you want to show you agree with another poster's response to the OP why not just hit the "like" button and move on? Or respond with "ditto" or "agreed" or something like that? As I go through many of these posts it just stands out to me that most discussions are just muddied by everyone actually saying the same thing over and over again.

    it is a public forum and everyone is free to comment, even those that don't address the topic.

    Never said people can't comment, just was wondering why people repeat the same info if they see it's been said already. And I've gotten some good varied answers.

    no, but that was what you insinuated, that people should stop posting because the answer had already been given.

    again, pulic forum...so

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    Well if you think it helpful to others and a good use of your time to post what's already been said 49 times before you...go for it. No sweat off my back
  • Krby13
    Krby13 Posts: 63 Member
    Krby13 wrote: »
    Krby13 wrote: »
    If everyone is in agreement against the OP's post why does everyone reply basically saying the same thing? If the first 1 or 2 people to reply already put the OP's argument to bed, why do 50 more people feel the need to reply with their own version of the same exact answer? Just to really drill the point home that the OP is wrong? If you want to show you agree with another poster's response to the OP why not just hit the "like" button and move on? Or respond with "ditto" or "agreed" or something like that? As I go through many of these posts it just stands out to me that most discussions are just muddied by everyone actually saying the same thing over and over again.

    For me, I tend to respond at work, so I'll frequently start answering a question, have to stop to work, and will eventually get back to finishing it while on break. By then, a lot of people will have probably said what I've said a bunch of times lol

    I just like piling on is all.

    :)

    Lol. I like that you can admit that. Honesty is always refreshing

    Oh, were you expecting an honest answer?

    Sorry, what?

  • Krby13
    Krby13 Posts: 63 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    Sometimes I'm just bored...

    Lol.
  • Krby13
    Krby13 Posts: 63 Member
    Krby13 wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    Sometimes I'm just bored...

    Lol.

    There was a thumbs up emoji written with that lol but it keeps erasing my emojis when I post :)
  • Krby13
    Krby13 Posts: 63 Member
    Krby13 wrote: »
    If everyone is in agreement against the OP's post why does everyone reply basically saying the same thing? If the first 1 or 2 people to reply already put the OP's argument to bed, why do 50 more people feel the need to reply with their own version of the same exact answer? Just to really drill the point home that the OP is wrong? If you want to show you agree with another poster's response to the OP why not just hit the "like" button and move on? Or respond with "ditto" or "agreed" or something like that? As I go through many of these posts it just stands out to me that most discussions are just muddied by everyone actually saying the same thing over and over again.

    It's been my experience on these boards, right or wrong, that when people post in a thread with an OP who's active elsewhere on the boards by chooses not to pop back into a thread like this to acknowledge the debate, that people don't feel heard and tend to post more and more until they are heard or the thread derails (as it has now fully derailed).

    Additionally, a lot of people surf these boards when they're bored or trying to kill time, and threads that look like they've been abandoned by their OP tend to become an open sandbox for others to play in.

    Besides, every time someone posts that "a calorie isn't a calorie" another newbie dieter gets their color-coded tupperware and expensive vitamin shake that does nothing.

    Good points

  • illusion2269
    illusion2269 Posts: 95 Member
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    kimny72 wrote: »
    Are we now required to have at least one thread every day with some variation of the title " A calorie is not just a calorie" "Is a calorie just a calorie?" "All calories are not created equal" "Are all calories the same?" :dizzy:

    And molasses is nasty, unless a small amount is used in cookies. I didn't even like it when we did that "swirl molasses in snow to make candy like the pilgrims did" thing in grade school. Blech.

    It's awesome in barbecue sauce. My homemade Kansas City-style recipe includes (among other things) molasses, honey, dark corn syrup and brown sugar. So the molasses vs. honey thing is a moot point because I use both. :D

    Molasses and honey go great together. I use both when I make bread, so tasty!
  • VintageFeline
    VintageFeline Posts: 6,771 Member
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    kimny72 wrote: »
    Are we now required to have at least one thread every day with some variation of the title " A calorie is not just a calorie" "Is a calorie just a calorie?" "All calories are not created equal" "Are all calories the same?" :dizzy:

    And molasses is nasty, unless a small amount is used in cookies. I didn't even like it when we did that "swirl molasses in snow to make candy like the pilgrims did" thing in grade school. Blech.

    It's awesome in barbecue sauce. My homemade Kansas City-style recipe includes (among other things) molasses, honey, dark corn syrup and brown sugar. So the molasses vs. honey thing is a moot point because I use both. :D

    Molasses and honey go great together. I use both when I make bread, so tasty!

    Now this sounds interesting. Do you just replace the sugar for activating the yeast?
  • L1zardQueen
    L1zardQueen Posts: 8,753 Member
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    kimny72 wrote: »
    Are we now required to have at least one thread every day with some variation of the title " A calorie is not just a calorie" "Is a calorie just a calorie?" "All calories are not created equal" "Are all calories the same?" :dizzy:

    And molasses is nasty, unless a small amount is used in cookies. I didn't even like it when we did that "swirl molasses in snow to make candy like the pilgrims did" thing in grade school. Blech.

    It's awesome in barbecue sauce. My homemade Kansas City-style recipe includes (among other things) molasses, honey, dark corn syrup and brown sugar. So the molasses vs. honey thing is a moot point because I use both. :D

    Molasses and honey go great together. I use both when I make bread, so tasty!

    Now this sounds interesting. Do you just replace the sugar for activating the yeast?

    Yes to both