First time cutting!

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  • Packerjohn
    Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
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    antdelsa wrote: »
    antdelsa wrote: »
    It's not about eating what you like man, don't listen to that garbage, you're trying to cut. You want to get ripped so get disciplined and follow a strict nutrition plan, slowly cut cals and get your macros in check, if you're lifting make sure you get enoufh carbs , keep fats low and proteins high, increase cardio and continue to put in the work at the gym. NO ONE has ever cut by eating what they want just a little less of it lol get prepared for eggs oatmeal chicken rice veggies, keep it simple and routine, food is fuel not something that makes you happy and feel good, your body, your health and accomplishing your goals is what will make you happy and feel good. Have your cheat meal but remember moderation and keep your goal in your mind, when you want that good food that you know is bad for you ask yourself if its worth not hitting your goal, is it worth the setback, is it worth throwing away that intense workout you just did at the gym, look in the mirror and see if eating that is going to make you feel better about looking in the mirror. Discipline, consistency, and hard work man ..you got this!!!!

    None of that really matters when cutting other than keeping protein high and keep lifting to preserve lean mass. Discipline and consistency do matter but eating the way you view as necessary is not. Calories are king whether you're cutting 10lbs or 100lbs.

    And food sure does make me feel good and it fuels me and it plays a role in my health. Making arbitrary rules about low fat (fat is essential for nutrient absorption and hormone function), labelling some foods as bad (pretty much all food has a nutritional value), saying you need to eat the same things all the time, only eat chicken and rice. I'm sorry but that's the bro diet.

    And look around you, there are plenty of pretty serious lifters here who bulk and cut regularly, when they cut, they do eat what they like. That doesn't mean as much and as often as they like but they make room for it within their calories. Because calories.

    Low fat in a cut isn't arbitrary, i didn't say no fat i said keep fats low at this point while he has a bunch if stored energy the excessive fats are unnecessary his body is storing enough.... and I'm sorry but the harsh reality is no bodybuilder cuts by eating what they want just a little less of it, i take that as eat whatever trash food you've been eating that made you hold all the fat just a little less and you'll be fine, this is terrible advice for someone who is bodybuilding and wanting to get lean. A bodybuilders cut diet is monotonous and its very much the hardest part of the process. No successful bodybuilder has achieved a great aesthetic by not following a strict nutrition plan on a cut i don't care what any random person in here says they've done or do lol bulking yes you have a little more freedom but cutting... no way, not if you want to be successful, and bro diet or not its a proven method and works despite how you want to label it there's a reason its a staple in bodybuilding and has been for years and years, the more consistent and routine the diet is the easier it is to adhere to over time, it becomes second nature and not a chore, you already know what you need to prep and when to eat amd how much, it takes a little work out of the process, his goals are obviously to build muscle and get lean he slipped up and over ate for too long now he wants to correct this and drop weight, saying oh just do what you've been doing but just dial it back is not good advice, he needs to correct his bad habits and change his relationship with food, again discipline, will power, and consistency are what he needs, not some sugar coated spare my feelings no shame because I'm trying my best type of garbage. Nothing about this is easy so no one should expect this easy type of approach, it sucks cutting ask anyone who competes or does this seriously, cutting is terrible but when you want it that bad you'll suck it up and reap the benefits for the sacrifices you made while you did it ... too many people in these forums beat around the bush and sugar coat stuff as to not make someone feel bad, its such an unrealistic childish approach, he got fat thats the reality, now its time to suck it up and put in that hard work to achieve his goal.

    After a week of trying just the calorie deficit method, I think it's safe to say that I do in fact need to realign my relationship with food. I find myself craving for certain foods and it has become so taxing on me that I end up binging. I am willing to go on the more tough, disciplinary diet, but the question I now have is how do I prepare for this? Because I can't just hop on a diet and expect it to work. Like I said this is my first time losing a serious amount of weight. About 60 lbs to be exact. How should I approach this newfound journey I have ahead of me?

    It mentioned earlier, but for starters assuming you are are maintenance now, just reduce your intake proportionally to cut your daily calories by around 500. As you get used to this you can take a look at the composition of you diet and possibly modify.

    Also, if you're picture was at the start of your bulk, your bodyfat % was too high. Most sources suggest a BF % of around 12% for a male before bulking.
  • edwardblancojr
    edwardblancojr Posts: 9 Member
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    Packerjohn wrote: »
    antdelsa wrote: »
    antdelsa wrote: »
    It's not about eating what you like man, don't listen to that garbage, you're trying to cut. You want to get ripped so get disciplined and follow a strict nutrition plan, slowly cut cals and get your macros in check, if you're lifting make sure you get enoufh carbs , keep fats low and proteins high, increase cardio and continue to put in the work at the gym. NO ONE has ever cut by eating what they want just a little less of it lol get prepared for eggs oatmeal chicken rice veggies, keep it simple and routine, food is fuel not something that makes you happy and feel good, your body, your health and accomplishing your goals is what will make you happy and feel good. Have your cheat meal but remember moderation and keep your goal in your mind, when you want that good food that you know is bad for you ask yourself if its worth not hitting your goal, is it worth the setback, is it worth throwing away that intense workout you just did at the gym, look in the mirror and see if eating that is going to make you feel better about looking in the mirror. Discipline, consistency, and hard work man ..you got this!!!!

    None of that really matters when cutting other than keeping protein high and keep lifting to preserve lean mass. Discipline and consistency do matter but eating the way you view as necessary is not. Calories are king whether you're cutting 10lbs or 100lbs.

    And food sure does make me feel good and it fuels me and it plays a role in my health. Making arbitrary rules about low fat (fat is essential for nutrient absorption and hormone function), labelling some foods as bad (pretty much all food has a nutritional value), saying you need to eat the same things all the time, only eat chicken and rice. I'm sorry but that's the bro diet.

    And look around you, there are plenty of pretty serious lifters here who bulk and cut regularly, when they cut, they do eat what they like. That doesn't mean as much and as often as they like but they make room for it within their calories. Because calories.

    Low fat in a cut isn't arbitrary, i didn't say no fat i said keep fats low at this point while he has a bunch if stored energy the excessive fats are unnecessary his body is storing enough.... and I'm sorry but the harsh reality is no bodybuilder cuts by eating what they want just a little less of it, i take that as eat whatever trash food you've been eating that made you hold all the fat just a little less and you'll be fine, this is terrible advice for someone who is bodybuilding and wanting to get lean. A bodybuilders cut diet is monotonous and its very much the hardest part of the process. No successful bodybuilder has achieved a great aesthetic by not following a strict nutrition plan on a cut i don't care what any random person in here says they've done or do lol bulking yes you have a little more freedom but cutting... no way, not if you want to be successful, and bro diet or not its a proven method and works despite how you want to label it there's a reason its a staple in bodybuilding and has been for years and years, the more consistent and routine the diet is the easier it is to adhere to over time, it becomes second nature and not a chore, you already know what you need to prep and when to eat amd how much, it takes a little work out of the process, his goals are obviously to build muscle and get lean he slipped up and over ate for too long now he wants to correct this and drop weight, saying oh just do what you've been doing but just dial it back is not good advice, he needs to correct his bad habits and change his relationship with food, again discipline, will power, and consistency are what he needs, not some sugar coated spare my feelings no shame because I'm trying my best type of garbage. Nothing about this is easy so no one should expect this easy type of approach, it sucks cutting ask anyone who competes or does this seriously, cutting is terrible but when you want it that bad you'll suck it up and reap the benefits for the sacrifices you made while you did it ... too many people in these forums beat around the bush and sugar coat stuff as to not make someone feel bad, its such an unrealistic childish approach, he got fat thats the reality, now its time to suck it up and put in that hard work to achieve his goal.

    After a week of trying just the calorie deficit method, I think it's safe to say that I do in fact need to realign my relationship with food. I find myself craving for certain foods and it has become so taxing on me that I end up binging. I am willing to go on the more tough, disciplinary diet, but the question I now have is how do I prepare for this? Because I can't just hop on a diet and expect it to work. Like I said this is my first time losing a serious amount of weight. About 60 lbs to be exact. How should I approach this newfound journey I have ahead of me?

    It mentioned earlier, but for starters assuming you are are maintenance now, just reduce your intake proportionally to cut your daily calories by around 500. As you get used to this you can take a look at the composition of you diet and possibly modify.

    Also, if you're picture was at the start of your bulk, your bodyfat % was too high. Most sources suggest a BF % of around 12% for a male before bulking.

    Those pictures were at the end of my bulk.
  • edwardblancojr
    edwardblancojr Posts: 9 Member
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    Hey all, just updating you guys. I lost 7 lbs in the past two weeks. I started walking 3.5 miles a day and getting in a couple of basketball or just plain shooting around. I also took on intermittent fasting. I feel that fasted cardio is really helping me and counting calories hasn't been an issue for me lately.