All this hard work for what? My stomach ruins it!!!

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  • igottaworkout
    igottaworkout Posts: 298 Member
    I had horrible bloating because of pregnancy (I know not the same thing!) but what helped me was drinking peppermint tea (unsweetened). I just brewed a small pot with two teabags and drank that throughout the day instead of water. The bloat went away within two days. Peppermint tea is really good in aiding digestion and cutting the bloat. If that doesn't help it could still be that you have an allergy or intolerance.. I would try the tea first though :)
  • Melissa11412
    Melissa11412 Posts: 145 Member
    It's all in your head...12% body fat is so lean for a woman should be 15-25....your so lean as soon as you eat it may appear that way but it's food not fat...Thats sounds like a way a anorexia person thinks seriously...when I was 17yrs old I thought I was fat (110lbs)because of my curves then when I had kids and drank alot and realized back then I was not fat and the new me was.Sometimes in in your head honestly ask around for others opinions.I have never been happy with my body for one reason or another...We are our worst critic sometimes please don't let it get to you...you're Beautiful.

    this is what i thought as well, i'm afraid. I actually did hit 12% bf one time (i've been weight training since the early 90's), heavy training, mix in HIIT/cardio etc) eating lean and my stomach would still pooch out after eating. i think that's what our stomachs do when it's busy holding what we just ate. my stomach would look lean as hell in the morning but let me eat something and relax my stomach....hey i got a little snack baby in there :noway:

    i sure would take that 12% again LOL but it was too hard to maintain and i'm old these days ha
  • WarriorCupcakeBlydnsr
    WarriorCupcakeBlydnsr Posts: 2,150 Member
    OP: Best I can suggest for you with going gluten free (and dairy free) is read labels, read labels, read labels.

    I know this sounds kinda silly, but let me put it this way since you mentioned that you have cottage cheese at night and this happened to me with cottage cheese after I was diagnosed with a wheat allergy (epi pen kind of allergy), did you read the label to check it for wheat? I would have cottage cheese daily (nice quick protein filled breakfast with some fresh fruit- total yum!) and couldn't figure out why I was still having an allergic reaction....until I read the label, the brand of cottage cheese I bought contained modified food starch (ie wheat) after that, I learned all the terminology that can be used on packaging for wheat and also learned that I needed to start reading labels on EVERYTHING for content not just for calories/fat/sugar/ect.

    Now that being said, I also have to say this: read the label every time you buy it because the manufacturer can change their recipe any time they want and they don't have to tell you, all they have to do is change it on the label when they change the production line, the other thing is that FDA regulations state that if an item contains less that 2% wheat/gluten for the entire package, it can be labeled gluten free.
  • aNewYear123
    aNewYear123 Posts: 279 Member
    Getting tested for these two allergies is not like getting tested for other allergies.

    Tests for gluten allergies involve an endoscope and biopsy:
    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/celiac-disease/DS00319/DSECTION=tests-and-diagnosis

    Tests for milk allergies are often not accurate:
    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/milk-allergy/DS01008/DSECTION=tests-and-diagnosis

    If your main symptom is bloating and not anemia or malnutrition (which a gluten allergy can result in due to lack of ability to absorb your food) simply cutting these out of your diet is probably the best test.
  • nyla2120
    nyla2120 Posts: 370 Member
    Maybe you should go gluten free and see if that fixes it...

    That's what I'm trying now. I don't know a lot about gluten, but I think the only thing I eat on a regular basisthat would have it is my oatmeal, which I just switched to gluten free literally today. Otherwise my diet consists of chicken, fish, green veggies, sweet potato with lunch only, nuts, egg whites, almond milk, cottage cheese at night & protein powder post workout.
    Not sure why you felt the need to add you only eat sweet potato at lunch, but what type of almond milk and how often do you drink it? I love unsweetened almond stuffs, but one of the additives used in many is carrageenans when can cause some people to have stomach issues. I don't think they've conclusively said that it's killing us all or anything but there are a fair amount of scientists who seem to think it's a bad thing for gastrointestinal problems. Try replacing your calcium with a different source for a while (I'd suggest cow if you're not lactose intolerant) and see if that makes things feel better.

    What type of protein powder? How much cals, protein, fat, carbs are you getting? Are you taking any vitamins? Getting all your micronutrients? This could be anything from a certain type of food, to a imbalanced diet (getting to much/not enough of something).

    My diet typically is like this:

    6:00am Pre-workout snack of coffee with Stevia & almond milk, gluten free rice cake & I tablespoon of peanut butter.

    7:30am Postwork out: 1/2 cup oatmeal, 1/3 cup egg whites & a Body Fortress protein shake with 4oz water & 4oz almond milk.

    11:00am Lunch: 4oz chicken breast, 3oz. sweet potato, green veggies.

    Mid day snack Snack: Tuna with cucumbers & sometimes a Quest protein bar

    Dinner: White fish, green veggies & a handful of almonds.

    Bedtime snack: 1/2 cup cottage cheese with a few almonds.
    Body fortress, is that a soy protein? Either way it shouldn't be a problem, since it's not present excessively.

    I don't know what that day typically ends up on cal/carb/protein/fat wise, but I noticed everything you listed there is rather lean other then the nuts. One of the main reasons people eat vegetables is to absorb their nutrients. That's fairly hard to do without fat present (since most of them are fat soluble). It's nice that you're getting a variety of protein sources but I would also imagine you're missing out on a fair bit of nutrients with the lack of fruit and non green vegetables. You may be able to fix your problem by adding a vitamin and a avocado to the above.

    It's a Whey Isolate protein.Sorry, I didn't mention I take multivitamins, probiotics, digestive enzymes as well. I would have no issues with adding some fruit in there. I have my macros set to 25% carbs, 35% fat & 40% protein. I eat 1200-1300 calories a day.
  • nyla2120
    nyla2120 Posts: 370 Member
    It's all in your head...12% body fat is so lean for a woman should be 15-25....your so lean as soon as you eat it may appear that way but it's food not fat...Thats sounds like a way a anorexia person thinks seriously...when I was 17yrs old I thought I was fat (110lbs)because of my curves then when I had kids and drank alot and realized back then I was not fat and the new me was.Sometimes in in your head honestly ask around for others opinions.I have never been happy with my body for one reason or another...We are our worst critic sometimes please don't let it get to you...you're Beautiful.

    Thank you for your sweet words. That's why I mentioned that I am pretty lean, because I know it's not fat that's making my stomach like this, it's something I'm eating.
  • nyla2120
    nyla2120 Posts: 370 Member
    I had horrible bloating because of pregnancy (I know not the same thing!) but what helped me was drinking peppermint tea (unsweetened). I just brewed a small pot with two teabags and drank that throughout the day instead of water. The bloat went away within two days. Peppermint tea is really good in aiding digestion and cutting the bloat. If that doesn't help it could still be that you have an allergy or intolerance.. I would try the tea first though :)

    Thank you! I love tea actually! I'll give this a try :smile:
  • nyla2120
    nyla2120 Posts: 370 Member
    Getting tested for these two allergies is not like getting tested for other allergies.

    Tests for gluten allergies involve an endoscope and biopsy:
    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/celiac-disease/DS00319/DSECTION=tests-and-diagnosis

    Tests for milk allergies are often not accurate:
    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/milk-allergy/DS01008/DSECTION=tests-and-diagnosis

    If your main symptom is bloating and not anemia or malnutrition (which a gluten allergy can result in due to lack of ability to absorb your food) simply cutting these out of your diet is probably the best test.

    I'm going to go over all the labels of food I eat regularly, as well as Google search for information on them & see if there is gluten/dairy in a lot of stuff I eat that I don't even realize. Thanks for the advice.
  • skullshank
    skullshank Posts: 4,323 Member
    .....avoid processed carbs as much as possible........

    ...... green leafy vegetables and healthy protein and fat sources are all you need to build muscle and burn fat.....

    not if shes eating at a deficit.

    ETA: are you eating at a deficit, OP?

    ETAA: just sw youre eating 1200-1300 cals a day...have you figured out your TDEE? for someone working out as much as you are, i think perhaps you need to up your intake.
  • nyla2120
    nyla2120 Posts: 370 Member
    OP: Best I can suggest for you with going gluten free (and dairy free) is read labels, read labels, read labels.

    I know this sounds kinda silly, but let me put it this way since you mentioned that you have cottage cheese at night and this happened to me with cottage cheese after I was diagnosed with a wheat allergy (epi pen kind of allergy), did you read the label to check it for wheat? I would have cottage cheese daily (nice quick protein filled breakfast with some fresh fruit- total yum!) and couldn't figure out why I was still having an allergic reaction....until I read the label, the brand of cottage cheese I bought contained modified food starch (ie wheat) after that, I learned all the terminology that can be used on packaging for wheat and also learned that I needed to start reading labels on EVERYTHING for content not just for calories/fat/sugar/ect.

    Now that being said, I also have to say this: read the label every time you buy it because the manufacturer can change their recipe any time they want and they don't have to tell you, all they have to do is change it on the label when they change the production line, the other thing is that FDA regulations state that if an item contains less that 2% wheat/gluten for the entire package, it can be labeled gluten free.

    This isn't silly at all & I'm going to look into the ingredients in everything I eat now. Thanks :smile:
  • agdyl
    agdyl Posts: 246 Member
    If that isn't you though then I would second the "cut back gluten and dairy for a bit" recommendation to see if that helps.

    Just FYI, the OP seems to know this already, but you can't just cut back on gluten. If you are really sensitive to it, you have to eliminate it 100% or you'll still get a reaction. That's why even a little soy sauce is a big deal, crumbs of regular bread are a big deal, etc. That's the deal with the oats too - oats themselves don't have gluten, but if they're processed in a facility that processes wheat, they get the dust from wheat mixed in and it causes a reaction. (That's happened to me with regular non-gluten free oats).

    It's a bit of a hassle to eat gluten free, especially when you're just figuring it out, but it's worth it to feel good!
  • nyla2120
    nyla2120 Posts: 370 Member
    Make sure you're getting all of your vitamins, nutrients, and minerals. Some deficiencies can cause bloating and water retention, and the same holds true with toxicity. My advice would be to see a nutritionist or dietician and have them look into what you're eating so that you're taking care of your body.

    Otherwise, doll, the only thing that comes to mind is that you're hypercritical and look fantastic. Either way, I wish you the best!

    Thank you so much sweetie! I've honestly never been to a dietician, I am going to look into seeing one.
  • nyla2120
    nyla2120 Posts: 370 Member
    If that isn't you though then I would second the "cut back gluten and dairy for a bit" recommendation to see if that helps.

    Just FYI, the OP seems to know this already, but you can't just cut back on gluten. If you are really sensitive to it, you have to eliminate it 100% or you'll still get a reaction. That's why even a little soy sauce is a big deal, crumbs of regular bread are a big deal, etc. That's the deal with the oats too - oats themselves don't have gluten, but if they're processed in a facility that processes wheat, they get the dust from wheat mixed in and it causes a reaction. (That's happened to me with regular non-gluten free oats).

    It's a bit of a hassle to eat gluten free, especially when you're just figuring it out, but it's worth it to feel good!

    I totally agree, it's going to be a hassle at first. But, if I can figure this out it will be so worth it.
  • I just had all my allergen tests done and they are all negative. I had an endoscopy, colonoscopy, scratch test, bloodwork... I still went gluten free, against my doctors wishes.

    And you know what? after 2 weeks, I'm FINALLY starting to feel better.

    If you have any questions just PM me. I've been suffering with severe abdominal cramping for 5 months now, along with other digestive issues to the point I've been in the ER, urgent care, doctors offices every few days and everyone told me nothing was wrong.
  • lithezebra
    lithezebra Posts: 3,670 Member
    I know the feeling. I'm petite, and I notice the difference in my abdomen before and after eating.
  • nyla2120
    nyla2120 Posts: 370 Member
    It's all in your head...12% body fat is so lean for a woman should be 15-25....your so lean as soon as you eat it may appear that way but it's food not fat...Thats sounds like a way a anorexia person thinks seriously...when I was 17yrs old I thought I was fat (110lbs)because of my curves then when I had kids and drank alot and realized back then I was not fat and the new me was.Sometimes in in your head honestly ask around for others opinions.I have never been happy with my body for one reason or another...We are our worst critic sometimes please don't let it get to you...you're Beautiful.

    this is what i thought as well, i'm afraid. I actually did hit 12% bf one time (i've been weight training since the early 90's), heavy training, mix in HIIT/cardio etc) eating lean and my stomach would still pooch out after eating. i think that's what our stomachs do when it's busy holding what we just ate. my stomach would look lean as hell in the morning but let me eat something and relax my stomach....hey i got a little snack baby in there :noway:

    i sure would take that 12% again LOL but it was too hard to maintain and i'm old these days ha

    This makes sense too. Maybe because I am on the leaner side, everything I eat shows. But, then I look at so many fitness competitors who are way leaner than me & they look amazing after eating 6 full meals. I don't get that :sad:
  • kariannmbc
    kariannmbc Posts: 144
    That happens to me when I drink almond, or rice milk, or anything soy based (including tofu). If it turns out not to be gluten or the cottage cheese, you might want to look at other things.
  • nyla2120
    nyla2120 Posts: 370 Member
    I know the feeling. I'm petite, and I notice the difference in my abdomen before and after eating.

    It's very frustrating!
  • Mokey41
    Mokey41 Posts: 5,769 Member
    At 12% BF and wanting to lose another 10 lbs I sense an eating disorder and body image issue. No woman at 12% BF needs to lose more weight. You probably think you look bloated after eating because you can actually see the food moving through your system. You are drastically under eating and if you're seeing a doctor and they aren't recognizing that then shame on them.

    All the thoughts on gluten and other sensitivities might work for the average person but I think this issue goes way deeper than a gluten sensitivity or any other allergy. Seek some professional mental help for your body image disorder instead of trying to eliminate even more foods from your life.
  • nyla2120
    nyla2120 Posts: 370 Member
    That happens to me when I drink almond, or rice milk, or anything soy based (including tofu). If it turns out not to be gluten or the cottage cheese, you might want to look at other things.

    Really? I drink at least 8oz of almond milk a day. I like to mix it with my protein shakes. I wonder if that is part of the issue.
  • abeare
    abeare Posts: 504 Member
    How frustrating that must be for you! I wish i had a better suggestion, but really what your Dr is asking you to do is really the best way. Gluten and dairy are the usual suspects, but it can be a myriad of things. If after the month of going minimal gluten and dairy you still have the same issue, try removing legumes or seeds, if still no luck try one fruit at a time, and on and on until you find the culprit. Hope the process isn’t too long
  • Sister_Someone
    Sister_Someone Posts: 567 Member
    Maybe you should look into allergy testing. I had this exact same problem until I did the test, they told me to cut out lactose, raspberries and blackberries, and processed sugar. I did all that and really minimized gluten (didn't cut it out entirely, but I avoid it when it's not too inconvenient or expensive to do so) and it really made a difference.
  • lydtorres
    lydtorres Posts: 1
    Have you tried a parasite cleanse? It is too soon for me to talk about it, I just started dieting and just did my parasite cleanse like a week ago, but I've been feeling so much better, I used to feel tired all the time, and every time I ate, my stomach bloated tremendously and nothing seemed to digest correctly, even if I was eating something healthy or non fat, I was bloat and with stomach pain all the time. I changed to non dairy milk and yoghurt but that didn't help. So I was at the drusgstore and saw the Vermox little box and started to dig into the whole parasite amoeba symptoms, and well, I believe it is recommended by doctors to do that kind of cleanse twice a year, so I bought the little box, and let me tell you, I've been feeling so much better. Check with your doctor if she recommends doing that, and there are a lot of natural options that you could try.
  • Nige_Gsy
    Nige_Gsy Posts: 163 Member
    As someone diagnosed with food intolerances (wheat, gluten, gliadin, eggs, dairy, and ginger) I know the difference cutting these things out can make. It certainly made a huge difference for me.

    Having said that, I'm still left with the spare skin in that area ... not sure what's cool about that look either!
  • nyla2120
    nyla2120 Posts: 370 Member
    Have you tried a parasite cleanse? It is too soon for me to talk about it, I just started dieting and just did my parasite cleanse like a week ago, but I've been feeling so much better, I used to feel tired all the time, and every time I ate, my stomach bloated tremendously and nothing seemed to digest correctly, even if I was eating something healthy or non fat, I was bloat and with stomach pain all the time. I changed to non dairy milk and yoghurt but that didn't help. So I was at the drusgstore and saw the Vermox little box and started to dig into the whole parasite amoeba symptoms, and well, I believe it is recommended by doctors to do that kind of cleanse twice a year, so I bought the little box, and let me tell you, I've been feeling so much better. Check with your doctor if she recommends doing that, and there are a lot of natural options that you could try.

    Wow, I've never heard of that..I'll talk to my Dr. About it. I'm fascinated!
  • nyla2120
    nyla2120 Posts: 370 Member
    As someone diagnosed with food intolerances (wheat, gluten, gliadin, eggs, dairy, and ginger) I know the difference cutting these things out can make. It certainly made a huge difference for me.

    Having said that, I'm still left with the spare skin in that area ... not sure what's cool about that look either!

    Lol I know all about spare skin, I have a 7 year old who stretched me out pretty good while I was pregnant with her.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    I'm just going to say that due to the workout schedule you have and the fact that you are so close to goal weight you probably aren't eating enought. This might also be throwing your body out of whack.

    Just saying

    how would not eating enough lead to stomach bloat?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Have you tried a parasite cleanse? It is too soon for me to talk about it, I just started dieting and just did my parasite cleanse like a week ago, but I've been feeling so much better, I used to feel tired all the time, and every time I ate, my stomach bloated tremendously and nothing seemed to digest correctly, even if I was eating something healthy or non fat, I was bloat and with stomach pain all the time. I changed to non dairy milk and yoghurt but that didn't help. So I was at the drusgstore and saw the Vermox little box and started to dig into the whole parasite amoeba symptoms, and well, I believe it is recommended by doctors to do that kind of cleanse twice a year, so I bought the little box, and let me tell you, I've been feeling so much better. Check with your doctor if she recommends doing that, and there are a lot of natural options that you could try.

    if you have parasites in your body then go to a dr...

    parasite cleanse.??????? really ..LOL

    OP ignore this...
  • jenilla1
    jenilla1 Posts: 11,118 Member
    Hey, my doctor had me do an elimination diet to find out what was causing my intestinal problems. I didn't lose a single pound (I wasn't trying to because I'm on maintenance), but I went from size 8 jeans to a loose size 6 within a week just from the abdominal bloating disappearing.

    It turned out that gluten, dairy and eggs cause me problems. It actually took me several weeks before all my symptoms eased, but the bloating went away pretty quickly. Hope you figure out what's causing your bloating and get it corrected. It's so nice to have flat, defined abs. (Mine have been there all along, but the bloating made me a little "puffier" than I liked.)
  • Fullsterkur_woman
    Fullsterkur_woman Posts: 2,712 Member
    I'm not saying you can't be 12% body fat, but if it was me, I'd get that verified by a DEXA scan. 12% is essential body fat for a woman, so you would literally have to lose muscle to lose 5-10 pounds.

    (There's no way in hell I'm sacrificing ANY of my muscle for a scale weight loss, and I have about 65 pounds of fat! I'll just keep carrying it around until I can slowly shed it while holding onto my muscle. If that means stay "overweight" by BMI for the rest of my life, so be it.)

    If that's still what you want to do, that's your prerogative. I personally want to encourage you to make sure that you have enough muscle to get through your daily activities and enough fat to maintain healthy bodily functions.

    But I'm 100% certain that when you're working with tiny tiny margins like you have, you definitely need to enlist the help of some professionals. (DEXA scans, RMR testing, heart stress testing, registered dietitian consultations, personal trainer, the whole nine yards) I think you're worth it! :bigsmile: