I have been hangry/hungry as kitten lately.
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heiliskrimsli wrote: »
I stand corrected in that BMI of 25.3 / 25.4 is overweight using the generally accepted WHO BMI classification.
My belief that 2lbs a week is an inappropriate goal for someone at the bottom edge of the overweight range continues unabated.
My belief that 25.4 may or may not be overweight in reality depending on body type, age, and muscular development also remains in place; however, objectively, my statement that he was not overweight is incorrect using generally accepted WHO BMI classifications.
Lot of people want to believe they're the exception and most of them are wrong.
If someone is BMI overweight but not over-fat it will be very apparent just looking at them that they have undertaken considerable effort to build that kind of lean mass. Being that kind of outlier doesn't happen by accident.1 -
Definitely slow down the rate of loss, brother. Stay strong!4
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I'm a 5'8" female, 163.5 as of yesterday and today, and eat between 1700-1900 calories a day, except Saturdays when I eat around 3,000 and lose an average of .5 lb/week.
My current goal is 155, though I am likely to reassess and maybe take that to 150. Anyway, I slowed to .5 lb/week goal when I had about 20 more pounds to go. I weigh every day and use trendweight.com. I do not lose .5 lb/week on the scale. For example, most recently I fluctuated between 166 and 168 for several weeks, then dropped to 165 I think, then 163.5 a couple of days after that. Because I have little left to lose, natural fluctuations will usually mask the losses. It's going to be a while before I see 155. But, that's the way I want it. I still have a higher percentage of fat than I'd like (don't know the percentage, just know I'm not lean). I don't need to lose more muscle than I have already.
My point being, you may be able to eat more than you do and that would help with being hangry. I echo those who have suggested a diet break. Do that for at least two weeks, then get back to your deficit. However, I would definitely make that deficit smaller and be prepared for the fluctuations and be patient.4 -
heiliskrimsli wrote: »
Have you looked at his picture? To call a person overweight without giving any thought to body composition is ridiculous, irresponsible, and just plane rude.10 -
MFP is telling you to eat the minimum it will allocate for a man. That most likely means it computed a lower value given your information, but it's not allowing you to eat that little. If you're on 2lbs/week, that's too aggressive with only 15 lbs to go. I don't think you even need a maintenance break. Cut back to 1 or 0.5 lbs/week.
Record all your exercise. If you're doing cardio and TKD, 300 calories/day from exercise sounds kind of low.
I have to wonder if your goal weight isn't just plum too low for your build. I get the impression you're aiming for 170 or so. I'm an inch taller than you, but at 166 I have a much less muscular build.4 -
OP check out this video by our very own @vismal re diet breaks, i think you need and deserve one! Awesome job on your weight loss so far
https://youtu.be/r0jqAXpjCV0
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heiliskrimsli wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »
I stand corrected in that BMI of 25.3 / 25.4 is overweight using the generally accepted WHO BMI classification.
My belief that 2lbs a week is an inappropriate goal for someone at the bottom edge of the overweight range continues unabated.
My belief that 25.4 may or may not be overweight in reality depending on body type, age, and muscular development also remains in place; however, objectively, my statement that he was not overweight is incorrect using generally accepted WHO BMI classifications.
Lot of people want to believe they're the exception and most of them are wrong.
If someone is BMI overweight but not over-fat it will be very apparent just looking at them that they have undertaken considerable effort to build that kind of lean mass. Being that kind of outlier doesn't happen by accident.
Where have I disagreed with that?
I do disagree that the implied fat % of a near normal BMI supports 2lbs a week as the targetted loss especially at the tail end of already significant weight loss.
I further disagree that for all age groups there is a significant health advantage between being just over and just under a normal BMI. This also affects the decision re appropriate speed of weight loss.
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OP, I don't think you're overfat, even if you're "overweight" (barely). You're a highly active tall man who strength trains. Your goal of a -2 lb/week loss is what's creating the hanger, because you are pushing your body to the limit. In this case, you should start listening to what your body is telling you . EAT MORE. Adjust your weight loss goals to -1 or better yet -0.5 lb/week. You'll find the whole experience much more tolerable and sustainable.
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Agree with all the comments that suggest moderating your rate of loss. I can understand the "sprint to the finish line" mentality, but do you plan to go from a 1000 kcal daily deficit right to 0 deficit when you hit GW? Dial it back, gradually lessen your daily deficit. It makes for an easier maintenance transition.
Or as Christine suggests, full diet break. I totally agree you deserve one after your fantastic progress. More on that: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-full-diet-break.html/
Another smart approach is what Christine did, I believe, which is to eat at maintenance and lose the last 15 at a slower pace. Correct me, Christine, if I misspoke!!
Many people feel hungrier as their BF% decreases. It takes a little experimentation with cardio & macros to find the balance most satisfying to you. A smaller deficit will definitely help. Fwiw, I'm a 52 y.o. woman, and I average 1500 to lose 1/2 lb/week, which is the fastest I can sustain at my BF%. Even when eating at maintenance, most days I would like to eat (or drink) a bit more, but I know it all adds up.
Congrats and good luck! I hope you find what works for you.4 -
You're right @ahoy_m8 . I started eating at my goal weight maintenance calories when i was around 10ish lbs out, i can't remember the exact number..
Now i have it set to my sedentary maintenance calories and create a deficit with exercise. So whatever is left in the green at days end is my deficit for that day. I'm pretty much at my goal weight, just trying to shave off a couple of lbs.5 -
Just want to give a big thanks for all the discussion and advice. The thread has gotten too big for me to respond to everyone individually.
The trend in the replies is that I'm not losing my mind, you really do get more hungry as you get lower and lower BF%, and that most people think slowing the rate of loss would help.
As for discussion of BMI, I think it's fair. My goal weight is in the middleish of the BMI chart. The majority of my body is pretty lean but I still have a bit of fat on my back and on my thighs. I'm only 3lbs overweight according to BMI so not really concerned. More concerned about being only roughly 15lbs away from goal!2 -
this thred is making me consider my first ever diet break in a year. im scared but have same issues as you my self control is gone around yummy stuff xD i dont feel insanely hungry but i do feel like "*kitten* it" you know iv nearly run out of ways to say no i dont need that ..yummy0
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Things I find very filling:
Vanilla Greek yogurt mixed with chocolate protein powder
Mission carb balance tortillas
Sugar free jello with cottage cheese
* Hope that helps! *1 -
With 15 lbs to lose, you shouldn't have such a big deficit.
Moving to maintenance should give you 250-300 extra calories, not 500. Eat more.JaydedMiss wrote: »this thred is making me consider my first ever diet break in a year. im scared but have same issues as you my self control is gone around yummy stuff xD i dont feel insanely hungry but i do feel like "*kitten* it" you know iv nearly run out of ways to say no i dont need that ..yummy
Taking a diet break when you start feeling that way is the WORST thing you can do. Keep your deficit... stick to it whenever possible. That way if you have a 'screw it' day, you'll still be able to maintain your weight... otherwise, 'screw it' days plus maintenance = gain.0 -
a good article on cheat days vs. planned refeeds
https://www.muscleandstrength.com/articles/cheat-meal-planned-refeed0
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