Is it true that sugar,carbs & sodium can make you fat?

choijanro

Is it true that sugar,carbs & sodium can make you fat?

WendyTerry420

Too much food will cause your body to store the excess energy as fat. Too much or too little sodium could put you in the hospital, but sodium has no calories.

AJ_G

Anything in excess will make you fat. A caloric surplus causes weight gain, a caloric deficit causes weight loss, end of story. High sodium can cause water retention and the illusion of fat gain, but it's just that, an illusion.

LAW_714

Anything can make you fat if you eat too much of it.

(However, reducing sugar intake to actual recommended daily allowances -- which Americans and many Western countries commonly exceed by a great deal-- doesn't hurt... and (theoretically) may help reduce risks of developing Type II diabetes.)

SirBonerFart

Anything can make you fat if you eat too much of it.

(However, reducing sugar intake to actual recommended daily allowances -- which Americans and many Western countries commonly exceed by a great deal-- doesn't hurt... and (theoretically) may help reduce risks of developing Type II diabetes.)

water?

ndj1979

this cat is totally trolling....

Lleldiranne

Sodium won't make you fat. It is a micronutrient, and has no calories.

Too much sodium can cause water retention, making the number on the scale go up, but this isn't the same thing.

Carbohydrates are a macronutrient, with 4 kcal per gram (sugar is just one type of carb). Eating more calories than your body uses will result in the excess being stored as fat. So an excess of carbohydrates can contribute to fat, just like eating too much fat or (*gasp*) protein. It's how many calories, not which macro they come from, that causes you to add fat to your body.

cmcollins001

Anything can make you fat if you eat too much of it.

(However, reducing sugar intake to actual recommended daily allowances -- which Americans and many Western countries commonly exceed by a great deal-- doesn't hurt... and (theoretically) may help reduce risks of developing Type II diabetes.)

water?

Umm..I'm sure you've heard of water weight. Right?

rml_16

Is it true that sugar,carbs & sodium can make you fat?

No. You can eat 5,000 calories a day of those things and never gain an ounce. But if you eat even 1 calorie of protein, you'll blow up like a balloon.

True story.

sdereski

this cat is totally trolling....

totally.

sullus

No. The only things that make you fat are eating before bed and skipping breakfast.

Unless you do BOTH. If you eat before bed, you'll raise your metabolism for while you;re sleeping, and then you won't wake up in starvation mode, so you don't end up storing everything you eat that day as fat.

But if you do one or the other, you'll get fat.

LAW_714

Anything can make you fat if you eat too much of it.

(However, reducing sugar intake to actual recommended daily allowances -- which Americans and many Western countries commonly exceed by a great deal-- doesn't hurt... and (theoretically) may help reduce risks of developing Type II diabetes.)

water?

You got me. Water won't make you gain weight. Any other details you'd like to add, Sir Boner Fart?

ndj1979

No. The only things that make you fat are eating before bed and skipping breakfast.

Unless you do BOTH. If you eat before bed, you'll raise your metabolism for while you;re sleeping, and then you won't wake up in starvation mode, so you don't end up storing everything you eat that day as fat.

But if you do one or the other, you'll get fat.

don't forget carbs after 2pm make you fat too...

kenzietate

This article might shed some light on your question:

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/07/magazine/what-if-it-s-all-been-a-big-fat-lie.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

Notable quote: "It is also undeniable, note students of Endocrinology 101, that mankind never evolved to eat a diet high in starches or sugars. ''Grain products and concentrated sugars were essentially absent from human nutrition until the invention of agriculture,'' Ludwig says, ''which was only 10,000 years ago.'' This is discussed frequently in the anthropology texts but is mostly absent from the obesity literature, with the prominent exception of the low-carbohydrate-diet books."



This is a scientific paper backing that article up:

http://ncp.sagepub.com/content/26/3/300.short

StacyReneO

No. The only things that make you fat are eating before bed and skipping breakfast.

Unless you do BOTH. If you eat before bed, you'll raise your metabolism for while you;re sleeping, and then you won't wake up in starvation mode, so you don't end up storing everything you eat that day as fat.

But if you do one or the other, you'll get fat.

don't forget carbs after 2pm make you fat too...

Don't eat carbs. Evah. If you even smell them you may get fat. Do not use sugar as body scrub, you may get fat. Do not go in a saline pool or the ocean, it may make you fat.

sullus

This article might shed some light on your question:

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/07/magazine/what-if-it-s-all-been-a-big-fat-lie.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

Notable quote: "It is also undeniable, note students of Endocrinology 101, that mankind never evolved to eat a diet high in starches or sugars. ''Grain products and concentrated sugars were essentially absent from human nutrition until the invention of agriculture,'' Ludwig says, ''which was only 10,000 years ago.'' This is discussed frequently in the anthropology texts but is mostly absent from the obesity literature, with the prominent exception of the low-carbohydrate-diet books."

That's silly. People were eating tubers and honey before the invention of agriculture.

ndj1979

This article might shed some light on your question:

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/07/magazine/what-if-it-s-all-been-a-big-fat-lie.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

Notable quote: "It is also undeniable, note students of Endocrinology 101, that mankind never evolved to eat a diet high in starches or sugars. ''Grain products and concentrated sugars were essentially absent from human nutrition until the invention of agriculture,'' Ludwig says, ''which was only 10,000 years ago.'' This is discussed frequently in the anthropology texts but is mostly absent from the obesity literature, with the prominent exception of the low-carbohydrate-diet books."

That's silly. People were eating tubers and honey before the invention of agriculture.

I was thinking the same thing ..what about fruit and other naturally occurring sugars...??

LAW_714

People were eating tubers and honey before the invention of agriculture.

Unless they lived in the Americas, where humans domesticated edible potatoes from normally deadly night shades +/-7,000 years ago (give a hand to the native Peruvians and the Bolivians. Modern researchers still aren't certain how they did it), people had to wait to make french fries until post-Columbian exchange...

(Poor Europeans. They had to wait for post-Columbus explorers to run into the Incas in order to bring those things back. Even then there were French people starving to death prior to the French Revolution partially due to their culture's reluctance to adopt those 'foreign' potatoes as a staple crop. Of course, they also didn't have chocolate(!) until post Columbian exchange, so their lack of potatoes (and corn, which was also human engineered by native Americans) was the lesser deprivation for the poor deprived European souls... (Heck, until post Columbian exchange, they didn't even have vanilla!)

sullus

This article might shed some light on your question:

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/07/magazine/what-if-it-s-all-been-a-big-fat-lie.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

Notable quote: "It is also undeniable, note students of Endocrinology 101, that mankind never evolved to eat a diet high in starches or sugars. ''Grain products and concentrated sugars were essentially absent from human nutrition until the invention of agriculture,'' Ludwig says, ''which was only 10,000 years ago.'' This is discussed frequently in the anthropology texts but is mostly absent from the obesity literature, with the prominent exception of the low-carbohydrate-diet books."

That's silly. People were eating tubers and honey before the invention of agriculture.

I was thinking the same thing ..what about fruit and other naturally occurring sugars...??

Yeah, fruit too. This is where I think the paleo crowd gets it wrong. I believe in paleo times the diet was mostly vegetarian, heavy on starches like potato, sunchoke, yams, etc, as well as sugars from fruit. I believe meat was a rarity since y'know .. it's harder to catch a gazelle than a potato. I suspect much of their protein intake was insect based as well.

LAW_714

That's silly. People were eating tubers and honey before the invention of agriculture.

I was thinking the same thing ..what about fruit and other naturally occurring sugars...??

Yeah, fruit too. This is where I think the paleo crowd gets it wrong. I believe in paleo times the diet was mostly vegetarian, heavy on starches like potato, sunchoke, yams, etc, as well as sugars from fruit. I believe meat was a rarity since y'know .. it's harder to catch a gazelle than a potato. I suspect much of their protein intake was insect based as well.

There's no such thing as a "pre-agriculture" edible potato (actual yams aren't the same species and are not actually potatoes, so they have a different history).

Anyway, all forms of edible potato trace back to a single species of night shade that was created through domestication by humans in the Andes mountains somewhere around 7,000 years ago. Modern researchers aren't entirely sure how the native Peruvians and Bolivians did it (then again, researchers also aren't entirely sure how the native North Americans created edible corn of any appealing size from a native grass, just that they did do it) But until they did it, wild potatoes were lethal.

Mistizoom

Sugar and carbs, yes. Sodium, no.

nomeejerome

OP:
How many threads are you going to start today asking similar questions?

Lleldiranne

This article might shed some light on your question:

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/07/magazine/what-if-it-s-all-been-a-big-fat-lie.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

Notable quote: "It is also undeniable, note students of Endocrinology 101, that mankind never evolved to eat a diet high in starches or sugars. ''Grain products and concentrated sugars were essentially absent from human nutrition until the invention of agriculture,'' Ludwig says, ''which was only 10,000 years ago.'' This is discussed frequently in the anthropology texts but is mostly absent from the obesity literature, with the prominent exception of the low-carbohydrate-diet books."



This is a scientific paper backing that article up:

http://ncp.sagepub.com/content/26/3/300.short

At least poster didn't say "weren't designed to …" Otherwise I'd get this confused with the popular thred debating milk.

Lleldiranne

That's silly. People were eating tubers and honey before the invention of agriculture.

I was thinking the same thing ..what about fruit and other naturally occurring sugars...??

Yeah, fruit too. This is where I think the paleo crowd gets it wrong. I believe in paleo times the diet was mostly vegetarian, heavy on starches like potato, sunchoke, yams, etc, as well as sugars from fruit. I believe meat was a rarity since y'know .. it's harder to catch a gazelle than a potato. I suspect much of their protein intake was insect based as well.

There's no such thing as a "pre-agriculture" edible potato (actual yams aren't the same species and are not actually potatoes, so they have a different history).

Anyway, all forms of edible potato trace back to a single species of night shade that was created through domestication by humans in the Andes mountains somewhere around 7,000 years ago. Modern researchers aren't entirely sure how the native Peruvians and Bolivians did it (then again, researchers also aren't entirely sure how the native North Americans created edible corn of any appealing size from a native grass, just that they did do it) But until they did it, wild potatoes were lethal.

What about turnips? Rutabega? Yuca? Ginger? Lots of other tuberous vegetables besides the potato.

LAW_714

If the question is whether pre-agriculture humans ate carbs, of course they did! They weren't going to pass up edible watercress or berries. They didn't even pass up daylilies and cat tails (the plant variety, not actual cats... although there were probably some actual cats eaten as well).

But if the question is whether prehistoric humans had the luxury of choosing between eating a gazelle or a potato, the answer will categorically be no. Not only did an agrarian people hydridize the creation edible potatoes (and corn, and wheat for that matter), but potatoes and gazelles originated on different, non-contiguous continents.

I'd also hazard a guess that in the winter during an ice age, people didn't pop out to the grocery store on a snowy day for nice ripe grapes.

Humans evolved as opportunistic omnivores. They ate what was available to them in order to survive.

neanderthin

Is it true that sugar,carbs & sodium can make you fat?

It seems to be a consistent theme where highly processed foods and quite a bit of fast food is concerned with nutritional food scientists employed to find out just how much of each won't make a person gag, but want more.

magerum

Excess calories make you fat. Consume more than you expend.

neanderthin

Excess calories make you fat. Consume more than you expend.

BoOM, there you go right there.....obesity epidemic solved.

Alice_rio

Yes. Especially if you do not eat them in moderation.

healthiershawn

Anyone wanting to read a very different point of view which has been touched on by bringing up "Endocrinology 101" should read the book Why We Get Fat by Gary Taubes. A very interesting read which completely disputes the idea of calories in-calories out...

nomeejerome

Anyone wanting to read a very different point of view which has been touched on by bringing up "Endocrinology 101" should read the book Why We Get Fat by Gary Taubes. A very interesting read which completely disputes the idea of calories in-calories out...

I encourage you to do additional research on the topic.