Not meeting caloric goals

NasiiM4
NasiiM4 Posts: 76 Member
edited November 2024 in Food and Nutrition
Every night this app tells me that I am in starvation mode and that is sitting in the back of my head throughout the day. I
don't want to stump my progress by not consuming enough, and I don't want to force myself to eat more than I can either. I am vegan and I usually eat raw foods, except for lunch. I am wondering if the same caloric goals apply to me as they would to a meat eater or someone that consumes higher calorie foods. I am consuming meals 5xs a day.

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  • annacole94
    annacole94 Posts: 994 Member
    Yes, you need calories to live, just like people that eat meat. Eat more.
  • NasiiM4
    NasiiM4 Posts: 76 Member
    edited May 2017
    annacole94 wrote: »
    Yes, you need calories to live, just like people that eat meat. Eat more.

    I understand that I need calories to live. I am asking if the same caloric goals apply to everyone. I don't continue to eat when I feel full. How do I eat more? I am eating every 3 hours.
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    NasiiM3 wrote: »
    Every night this app tells me that I am in starvation mode and that is sitting in the back of my head throughout the day. I
    don't want to stump my progress by not consuming enough, and I don't want to force myself to eat more than I can either. I am vegan and I usually eat raw foods, except for lunch. I am wondering if the same caloric goals apply to me as they would to a meat eater or someone that consumes higher calorie foods. I am consuming meals 5xs a day.

    Why would you think you have different caloric needs just because you're vegan?
  • AliceDark
    AliceDark Posts: 3,886 Member
    First: how are you measuring your intake? Are you using a food scale, measuring cups/spoons, or eyeballing?

    Second: what is your current calorie target, and on average, what is your intake?

    The two biggest factors in determining your caloric needs are your current weight and your activity level. Whether you're raw vegan or you live on McDonald's doesn't really matter in terms of your caloric needs.
  • malibu927
    malibu927 Posts: 17,562 Member
    It doesn't say you're in starvation mode, as starvation mode doesn't exist. What it does say is that eating below 1000 calories (the threshold where it doesn't close out your diary) can lead to serious impact on your health, such as muscle loss. You still need to eat enough to fuel your body no matter what kind of diet you follow.
  • annacole94
    annacole94 Posts: 994 Member
    Eat more calorie dense food. Raw fruits and vegetables are not a balanced diet by themselves, and it's very challenging to get enough nutrition from them exclusively.

    Nuts and bananas seem to be the most popular ways to increase calories for raw vegans. I'd also try to get a fairly good portion of cooked grains/legumes with your lunch, if it's your only cooked meal.
  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
    NasiiM3 wrote: »
    annacole94 wrote: »
    Yes, you need calories to live, just like people that eat meat. Eat more.

    I understand that I need calories to live. I am asking if the same caloric goals apply to everyone. I don't continue to eat when I feel full. How do I eat more? I am eating every 3 hours.

    Calorie dense foods have small portion sizes. Nuts, nut butters, avocado, olive oil. Your body uses calories 24/7....heart, lungs, kidneys, etc. Find a way to eat more - cut back on high volume (often low in nutrition) foods if you need to .....lettuce, cucumbers, celery.
  • mph323
    mph323 Posts: 3,563 Member
    Out of curiosity, how did you get overweight if you have trouble consuming enough calories? Did you recently become vegan and find that's limiting your appetite? Or did you recently start counting calories? Sometimes when we change our diets or become focused on how much we're eating, there's a sort of "honeymoon" period where we can find it difficult to eat to our calorie allowance just because we're suddenly conscious of everything we're putting in our mouths (which can be enlightening - I certainly found it so :) ). If you've just started either or both, I would suggest just arbitrarily adding some calories to each meal to get close to your goal, and see what happens in a couple of weeks.
  • livingleanlivingclean
    livingleanlivingclean Posts: 11,751 Member
    Yes, the same calorie goals apply to everyone, unless they have a medical condition that may either make them require more or less.

    If you are truly eating less than 1200 cals, add some grains to your lunch, eat more calorie dense raw foods if that's how you choose to eat- nuts, nut butter, seeds, oils, avo, coconut cream, cashew cheese etc. Raw desserts are calorie bombs.
  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    Yes, you need the same number of calories to be healthy as a non-vegan of your size and activity level - depending on your diet you may even need more since raw foods and vegetable foods are harder for your body to use. What are your macros like? They can tell you what foods you should be adding - if you are low on fats add oils, nuts, and avocados, if carbs, fruits are good.
  • JohnnyPenso
    JohnnyPenso Posts: 412 Member
    NasiiM3 wrote: »
    Every night this app tells me that I am in starvation mode and that is sitting in the back of my head throughout the day. I
    don't want to stump my progress by not consuming enough, and I don't want to force myself to eat more than I can either. I am vegan and I usually eat raw foods, except for lunch. I am wondering if the same caloric goals apply to me as they would to a meat eater or someone that consumes higher calorie foods. I am consuming meals 5xs a day.
    I am sort of in the same boat. I am used to eating high volume, lower calorie foods now and it is a struggle to eat all my calories that way. I feel like I'm eating all the time!! Nuts and fats are the easiest boost for me. A tbsp or two of olive oil or flaxseed oil here and there, fry my eggs in butter, fatty salmon instead of lean haddock or cod. Avacados, coconut etc.

  • NasiiM4
    NasiiM4 Posts: 76 Member
    NasiiM3 wrote: »
    Every night this app tells me that I am in starvation mode and that is sitting in the back of my head throughout the day. I
    don't want to stump my progress by not consuming enough, and I don't want to force myself to eat more than I can either. I am vegan and I usually eat raw foods, except for lunch. I am wondering if the same caloric goals apply to me as they would to a meat eater or someone that consumes higher calorie foods. I am consuming meals 5xs a day.

    Why would you think you have different caloric needs just because you're vegan?
    NasiiM3 wrote: »
    Every night this app tells me that I am in starvation mode and that is sitting in the back of my head throughout the day. I
    don't want to stump my progress by not consuming enough, and I don't want to force myself to eat more than I can either. I am vegan and I usually eat raw foods, except for lunch. I am wondering if the same caloric goals apply to me as they would to a meat eater or someone that consumes higher calorie foods. I am consuming meals 5xs a day.

    Why would you think you have different caloric needs just because you're vegan?

    I didn't know so I asked.
  • NasiiM4
    NasiiM4 Posts: 76 Member
    AliceDark wrote: »
    First: how are you measuring your intake? Are you using a food scale, measuring cups/spoons, or eyeballing?

    Second: what is your current calorie target, and on average, what is your intake?

    The two biggest factors in determining your caloric needs are your current weight and your activity level. Whether you're raw vegan or you live on McDonald's doesn't really matter in terms of your caloric needs.

    I use a food scale mostly, and cups for liquids. When I have something that was prepared by others I estimate. Like when a friend made me some Jamaican veggie patties I didn't know the exact weights/amounts.

    My current target is 1200 and I'm usually around 800-900.
  • NasiiM4
    NasiiM4 Posts: 76 Member
    malibu927 wrote: »
    It doesn't say you're in starvation mode, as starvation mode doesn't exist. What it does say is that eating below 1000 calories (the threshold where it doesn't close out your diary) can lead to serious impact on your health, such as muscle loss. You still need to eat enough to fuel your body no matter what kind of diet you follow.

    I'm aware that the app doesn't actually say starvation mode. Thanks for your comment.
  • NasiiM4
    NasiiM4 Posts: 76 Member
    edited May 2017
    annacole94 wrote: »
    Eat more calorie dense food. Raw fruits and vegetables are not a balanced diet by themselves, and it's very challenging to get enough nutrition from them exclusively.

    Nuts and bananas seem to be the most popular ways to increase calories for raw vegans. I'd also try to get a fairly good portion of cooked grains/legumes with your lunch, if it's your only cooked meal.

    Thank you
  • NasiiM4
    NasiiM4 Posts: 76 Member
    TeaBea wrote: »
    NasiiM3 wrote: »
    annacole94 wrote: »
    Yes, you need calories to live, just like people that eat meat. Eat more.

    I understand that I need calories to live. I am asking if the same caloric goals apply to everyone. I don't continue to eat when I feel full. How do I eat more? I am eating every 3 hours.

    Calorie dense foods have small portion sizes. Nuts, nut butters, avocado, olive oil. Your body uses calories 24/7....heart, lungs, kidneys, etc. Find a way to eat more - cut back on high volume (often low in nutrition) foods if you need to .....lettuce, cucumbers, celery.

    Thank you
  • NasiiM4
    NasiiM4 Posts: 76 Member
    mph323 wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, how did you get overweight if you have trouble consuming enough calories? Did you recently become vegan and find that's limiting your appetite? Or did you recently start counting calories? Sometimes when we change our diets or become focused on how much we're eating, there's a sort of "honeymoon" period where we can find it difficult to eat to our calorie allowance just because we're suddenly conscious of everything we're putting in our mouths (which can be enlightening - I certainly found it so :) ). If you've just started either or both, I would suggest just arbitrarily adding some calories to each meal to get close to your goal, and see what happens in a couple of weeks.

    I've always struggled with my weight and bulimia. PCOS played a factor in my weight again as well. I was a vegetarian for 6 years and went vegan a year ago. Eating mainly raw foods have been helpful in managing my Lupus so I like to stick with things that decrease pain levels and flare ups.

    I am down 70lbs and would like to lose 30-40 more.
  • NasiiM4
    NasiiM4 Posts: 76 Member
    Yes, the same calorie goals apply to everyone, unless they have a medical condition that may either make them require more or less.

    If you are truly eating less than 1200 cals, add some grains to your lunch, eat more calorie dense raw foods if that's how you choose to eat- nuts, nut butter, seeds, oils, avo, coconut cream, cashew cheese etc. Raw desserts are calorie bombs.

    Thank you for answering my question and for the advice.
  • NasiiM4
    NasiiM4 Posts: 76 Member
    Yes, you need the same number of calories to be healthy as a non-vegan of your size and activity level - depending on your diet you may even need more since raw foods and vegetable foods are harder for your body to use. What are your macros like? They can tell you what foods you should be adding - if you are low on fats add oils, nuts, and avocados, if carbs, fruits are good.

    I typically hit my macro goals, sometimes I'm off by a few percentage. I always try to hit them.
  • NasiiM4
    NasiiM4 Posts: 76 Member
    NasiiM3 wrote: »
    Every night this app tells me that I am in starvation mode and that is sitting in the back of my head throughout the day. I
    don't want to stump my progress by not consuming enough, and I don't want to force myself to eat more than I can either. I am vegan and I usually eat raw foods, except for lunch. I am wondering if the same caloric goals apply to me as they would to a meat eater or someone that consumes higher calorie foods. I am consuming meals 5xs a day.
    I am sort of in the same boat. I am used to eating high volume, lower calorie foods now and it is a struggle to eat all my calories that way. I feel like I'm eating all the time!! Nuts and fats are the easiest boost for me. A tbsp or two of olive oil or flaxseed oil here and there, fry my eggs in butter, fatty salmon instead of lean haddock or cod. Avacados, coconut etc.

    Thank you.
  • livingleanlivingclean
    livingleanlivingclean Posts: 11,751 Member
    NasiiM3 wrote: »
    Yes, you need the same number of calories to be healthy as a non-vegan of your size and activity level - depending on your diet you may even need more since raw foods and vegetable foods are harder for your body to use. What are your macros like? They can tell you what foods you should be adding - if you are low on fats add oils, nuts, and avocados, if carbs, fruits are good.

    I typically hit my macro goals, sometimes I'm off by a few percentage. I always try to hit them.

    If you aren't eating enough calories, you aren't hitting your macros - in grams, not percentages. You can eat 100 calories and meet your macro % breakdown. How many grams of protein and fat are you eating per day (roughly)?
  • NasiiM4
    NasiiM4 Posts: 76 Member
    NasiiM3 wrote: »
    Yes, you need the same number of calories to be healthy as a non-vegan of your size and activity level - depending on your diet you may even need more since raw foods and vegetable foods are harder for your body to use. What are your macros like? They can tell you what foods you should be adding - if you are low on fats add oils, nuts, and avocados, if carbs, fruits are good.

    I typically hit my macro goals, sometimes I'm off by a few percentage. I always try to hit them.

    If you aren't eating enough calories, you aren't hitting your macros - in grams, not percentages. You can eat 100 calories and meet your macro % breakdown. How many grams of protein and fat are you eating per day (roughly)?

    Using yesterday as an example, I ate 50g of protein and 38g of fat.
  • beanz744
    beanz744 Posts: 221 Member
    edited May 2017
    NasiiM3 wrote: »
    :
    AliceDark wrote: »
    First: how are you measuring your intake? Are you using a food scale, measuring cups/spoons, or eyeballing?

    Second: what is your current calorie target, and on average, what is your intake?

    The two biggest factors in determining your caloric needs are your current weight and your activity level. Whether you're raw vegan or you live on McDonald's doesn't really matter in terms of your caloric needs.

    I use a food scale mostly, and cups for liquids. When I have something that was prepared by others I estimate. Like when a friend made me some Jamaican veggie patties I didn't know the exact weights/amounts.

    My current target is 1200 and I'm usually around 800-900.

    the simplest n easiest way is to add one or two tablespoon of chia seeds to whatever u eat. at 70 cal each with healthy dose of iron n calcium n protein n n fiber n good fat (HALLELUJAH!). 4 Tablespoons is 280 calories n u r done!

    PS eat them before they get fat with liquid inside so u wont feel like u r eating anything extra :wink:
  • NasiiM4
    NasiiM4 Posts: 76 Member
    beanz744 wrote: »
    NasiiM3 wrote: »
    :
    AliceDark wrote: »
    First: how are you measuring your intake? Are you using a food scale, measuring cups/spoons, or eyeballing?

    Second: what is your current calorie target, and on average, what is your intake?

    The two biggest factors in determining your caloric needs are your current weight and your activity level. Whether you're raw vegan or you live on McDonald's doesn't really matter in terms of your caloric needs.

    I use a food scale mostly, and cups for liquids. When I have something that was prepared by others I estimate. Like when a friend made me some Jamaican veggie patties I didn't know the exact weights/amounts.

    My current target is 1200 and I'm usually around 800-900.

    the simplest n easiest way is to add one or two tablespoon of chia seeds to whatever u eat. at 70 cal each with healthy dose of iron n calcium n protein n n fiber n good fat (HALLELUJAH!). 4 Tablespoons is 280 calories n u r done!

    PS eat them before they get fat with liquid inside so u wont feel like u r eating anything extra :wink:

    Awesome! Thanks
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