Could use some help
ddaniellemariee7
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So I have been trying a diet of no dairy and anything prepakaged (if the list has words i dont know, i dont eat it) and I don't eat bread of any kind, well I've never been a big eater. So my calories for the say start ar 1200, but go up with the exercise. I NEVER complete a diary becauae say I log 600 calories burnded, which my intake needing to be 1800, I am honestly lucky to make it to 400 eaten. So what foods, cook books, blogs, or whatever would you suggest to help me met calories? For example, if I cooked two over easy eggs, no oil added or anything, I'm lucky if I get 3/4 of it and be stuffed. And literally I am NEVER hungry, like in the past I have forgotten to eat because I'm not hungry.
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Are you or were you overweight?0
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If you're having trouble meeting your intake goals then add the oil/butter/fat to the eggs and eat them. Focus on eating the calorie dense foods that aren't bulky. Fats are an obvious choice. Nuts are great. 12 or 15 almonds is 100 calories give or take. Trail mix is high in calories etc.1
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I am currently 20lbs over weight, but have lost 13lbs so far and I find the more I lose, the less I can physically eat. In the past I was very anorexic (7 years recovered) and I am trying so hard not to relapse and me seeing on paper and an app, makes me really worried.0
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Nuts ans I have a love hate relationship, I'm allergic to current types, but I will deff look into them more! Thanks! (:0
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You can close your diary no matter how many exercise calories you have as long as you have logged over 1000. How many eaten calories are you actually logging a day?1
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On average, it is about 450. I don't complete it since it gives me the warning message and makes me worried.0
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You're only eating 450 calories a day? Honey, if that's the case, you aren't trying not to relapse, you need to consider that you already have. 450 a day isn't enough to sustain a toddler. Do you have a treatment team you could reach out to?10
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I have a "therapist" i see, but told me to lose weight and only eat if i'm hungry. I can't find foods that she deems "healthy" in high enough calories and currently she sees nothing wrong with my intake. Like I try to eat, but even when I think I'll get more in, I don't. She only wants me eating things without labels and it's hard when I can't ear enough. She was great for recovery but she's not helping now and I hate seeing that i'm not meeting the calorie intake with her list.1
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ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »On average, it is about 450. I don't complete it since it gives me the warning message and makes me worried.
if you are logging accurately and this is the case. Are you able to eat more ? or is your body refusing to let it go down? Maybe try drinking some calories as well, a smoothy or juice or some greek yogurt with protein since its softer than a solid food. 450 is definitely not enough to keep your body healthy.2 -
I'm logging it right, it's just I can't eat it, like my body won't let me. I tried to force myself and threw it up. I stopped measuring the food thinking it was more mental that I weighed it and that's the right amount, thinking if I made what I would make for someone else, that when I logged it, it would be more, but it just doesn't go down. My biggest issue is that I don't get hungry and my body rejects it. I bought some protien drink things (against what my therapist said) and even that's hard, maybe I got a bad kind?0
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What about going to the butcher shop and picking up some meats? Like bacon or anything that is a little fatty. Also eggs, hummus, olive oil, shoot even a fruit smoothie with organic coconut oil will totally increase your caloric intake.1
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ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »I'm logging it right, it's just I can't eat it, like my body won't let me. I tried to force myself and threw it up. I stopped measuring the food thinking it was more mental that I weighed it and that's the right amount, thinking if I made what I would make for someone else, that when I logged it, it would be more, but it just doesn't go down. My biggest issue is that I don't get hungry and my body rejects it. I bought some protien drink things (against what my therapist said) and even that's hard, maybe I got a bad kind?
You could always try different flavours if that is an issue with the drinks. I am not a doctor but you should definitely bring it up with yours when you have a chance. Throwing the food up when you are so low calorie wise is not good.
One idea that comes to mind, Have you tried snacking? like constantly just munching on something, one bite here, one bite there. Some nuts or fruit and then just space it out and see if you can hold it down this way?2 -
If your therapist seeing your food log? Because 450 is nowhere even vaguely close to an appropriate amount of food.5
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Didn't even think about coconut oil in smoothies! I will have to try that! I do eat meat, just not enough to honestly count0
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She saw it today and told me it was great you're eating and I just looked at her like no, I seriously need help and this is wrong. All see saw to me was that food was logged and not listening when I was telling her I wasn't meeting the calories and couldn't physically finish a meal. I'm trying to get a new one but my insurance isn't the best.0
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Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »I'm logging it right, it's just I can't eat it, like my body won't let me. I tried to force myself and threw it up. I stopped measuring the food thinking it was more mental that I weighed it and that's the right amount, thinking if I made what I would make for someone else, that when I logged it, it would be more, but it just doesn't go down. My biggest issue is that I don't get hungry and my body rejects it. I bought some protien drink things (against what my therapist said) and even that's hard, maybe I got a bad kind?
You could always try different flavours if that is an issue with the drinks. I am not a doctor but you should definitely bring it up with yours when you have a chance. Throwing the food up when you are so low calorie wise is not good.
One idea that comes to mind, Have you tried snacking? like constantly just munching on something, one bite here, one bite there. Some nuts or fruit and then just space it out and see if you can hold it down this way?
I've tried snacking, about half the time, it comes back up and I try so hard not to let it. Fruit tends to stay down the best, but even with fruit, i can't meet the calories. My therapist isn't helping and my next step is seeing my family doctor, I'm at the point where something physically might be wrong.0 -
ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »I'm logging it right, it's just I can't eat it, like my body won't let me. I tried to force myself and threw it up. I stopped measuring the food thinking it was more mental that I weighed it and that's the right amount, thinking if I made what I would make for someone else, that when I logged it, it would be more, but it just doesn't go down. My biggest issue is that I don't get hungry and my body rejects it. I bought some protien drink things (against what my therapist said) and even that's hard, maybe I got a bad kind?
You could always try different flavours if that is an issue with the drinks. I am not a doctor but you should definitely bring it up with yours when you have a chance. Throwing the food up when you are so low calorie wise is not good.
One idea that comes to mind, Have you tried snacking? like constantly just munching on something, one bite here, one bite there. Some nuts or fruit and then just space it out and see if you can hold it down this way?
I've tried snacking, about half the time, it comes back up and I try so hard not to let it. Fruit tends to stay down the best, but even with fruit, i can't meet the calories. My therapist isn't helping and my next step is seeing my family doctor, I'm at the point where something physically might be wrong.
I would definitely bring it up with your family doctor. Explain to him what is happen as clear as you can and just how many calories you believe you are logging. Hopefully there is something he can do for you to at least kick start your appetite.0 -
Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »I'm logging it right, it's just I can't eat it, like my body won't let me. I tried to force myself and threw it up. I stopped measuring the food thinking it was more mental that I weighed it and that's the right amount, thinking if I made what I would make for someone else, that when I logged it, it would be more, but it just doesn't go down. My biggest issue is that I don't get hungry and my body rejects it. I bought some protien drink things (against what my therapist said) and even that's hard, maybe I got a bad kind?
You could always try different flavours if that is an issue with the drinks. I am not a doctor but you should definitely bring it up with yours when you have a chance. Throwing the food up when you are so low calorie wise is not good.
One idea that comes to mind, Have you tried snacking? like constantly just munching on something, one bite here, one bite there. Some nuts or fruit and then just space it out and see if you can hold it down this way?
I've tried snacking, about half the time, it comes back up and I try so hard not to let it. Fruit tends to stay down the best, but even with fruit, i can't meet the calories. My therapist isn't helping and my next step is seeing my family doctor, I'm at the point where something physically might be wrong.
I would definitely bring it up with your family doctor. Explain to him what is happen as clear as you can and just how many calories you believe you are logging. Hopefully there is something he can do for you to at least kick start your appetite.
I'm hoping he will be able to do something. It's been more recent when I was approved to go on a diet and exercise, before I wasn't having an issue and I'm the only one noticing (referring to the therapist) and I can't keep not meeting calories and losing weight in the wrong way. Just something isn't right and I don't know if it is because my body is in shock from exercising and dieting or an actual problem. I want to eat, it just doesn't go down.0 -
ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »I'm logging it right, it's just I can't eat it, like my body won't let me. I tried to force myself and threw it up. I stopped measuring the food thinking it was more mental that I weighed it and that's the right amount, thinking if I made what I would make for someone else, that when I logged it, it would be more, but it just doesn't go down. My biggest issue is that I don't get hungry and my body rejects it. I bought some protien drink things (against what my therapist said) and even that's hard, maybe I got a bad kind?
You could always try different flavours if that is an issue with the drinks. I am not a doctor but you should definitely bring it up with yours when you have a chance. Throwing the food up when you are so low calorie wise is not good.
One idea that comes to mind, Have you tried snacking? like constantly just munching on something, one bite here, one bite there. Some nuts or fruit and then just space it out and see if you can hold it down this way?
I've tried snacking, about half the time, it comes back up and I try so hard not to let it. Fruit tends to stay down the best, but even with fruit, i can't meet the calories. My therapist isn't helping and my next step is seeing my family doctor, I'm at the point where something physically might be wrong.
I would definitely bring it up with your family doctor. Explain to him what is happen as clear as you can and just how many calories you believe you are logging. Hopefully there is something he can do for you to at least kick start your appetite.
I'm hoping he will be able to do something. It's been more recent when I was approved to go on a diet and exercise, before I wasn't having an issue and I'm the only one noticing (referring to the therapist) and I can't keep not meeting calories and losing weight in the wrong way. Just something isn't right and I don't know if it is because my body is in shock from exercising and dieting or an actual problem. I want to eat, it just doesn't go down.
The good and bright side of this is that you recognize it and want to do something about it. Many people arent that fortunate.3 -
It sounds like you need a new therapist. My god, from what you are saying they sound very neglectful. Your family doctor should be able to help. Maybe talk to a nutritionist?6
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get to the family dr tell him what you said here and that you feel the therapist does not see that you are struggling.Even though you have told her .
there is no way to get enough nutrients on 450 cal a day1 -
It sounds like you need a new therapist. My god, from what you are saying they sound very neglectful. Your family doctor should be able to help. Maybe talk to a nutritionist?
I'm deff going to try to get a new therapist, she's also a "nutritionist" but from what im able to do and listening to her is not normal. I'm gonna look for a therapist and a nutritionist who aren't the same person.0 -
Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »I'm logging it right, it's just I can't eat it, like my body won't let me. I tried to force myself and threw it up. I stopped measuring the food thinking it was more mental that I weighed it and that's the right amount, thinking if I made what I would make for someone else, that when I logged it, it would be more, but it just doesn't go down. My biggest issue is that I don't get hungry and my body rejects it. I bought some protien drink things (against what my therapist said) and even that's hard, maybe I got a bad kind?
You could always try different flavours if that is an issue with the drinks. I am not a doctor but you should definitely bring it up with yours when you have a chance. Throwing the food up when you are so low calorie wise is not good.
One idea that comes to mind, Have you tried snacking? like constantly just munching on something, one bite here, one bite there. Some nuts or fruit and then just space it out and see if you can hold it down this way?
I've tried snacking, about half the time, it comes back up and I try so hard not to let it. Fruit tends to stay down the best, but even with fruit, i can't meet the calories. My therapist isn't helping and my next step is seeing my family doctor, I'm at the point where something physically might be wrong.
I would definitely bring it up with your family doctor. Explain to him what is happen as clear as you can and just how many calories you believe you are logging. Hopefully there is something he can do for you to at least kick start your appetite.
I'm hoping he will be able to do something. It's been more recent when I was approved to go on a diet and exercise, before I wasn't having an issue and I'm the only one noticing (referring to the therapist) and I can't keep not meeting calories and losing weight in the wrong way. Just something isn't right and I don't know if it is because my body is in shock from exercising and dieting or an actual problem. I want to eat, it just doesn't go down.
The good and bright side of this is that you recognize it and want to do something about it. Many people arent that fortunate.
Last time, I didn't notice it and I got bad. I remember how it was and how hard recovery was and it is deff not a path I want to go back on. I just need help and it's great that this community is here and has given much better advice than what I was getting.0 -
Could you, in the short term, sip on some Ensure or something similar?0
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Oh my goodness, please see your doctor and ask for a referral to a REGISTERED DIETICIAN - not just a nutritionist or therapist because there is no "stringent" training for them.
I'm sorry that you are going through this, you are making the right choice by coming here and getting advice to go the proper medical route.
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I think the fact that you've posted on this forum is a great positive, its shows that you have learnt from your past experiences and you reconise your current eating habits are not healthy.
Try and focus on the foods that you do like, mayme post a list of the ones that you enjoy. Members can that post suggestions on tweaks to make, to increase calorie intake with out adding the dreaded sugar. I take your post as a great positive, and it will make me think more carefully of the foods I eat today. Thankyou1 -
Good luck in your quest to get healthier.
Echoing what others said about your current therapist, it doesn't sound like this one is acting in your own interest. Telling you to not eat things with labels? Why? And not taking into account your eating disorder history when giving you advice. Actually, just the fact a "therapist" is telling you what to do, i.e. giving you instructions - that's not normally a therapist's role.2 -
I really feel like your therapist is actively damaging your recovery, honestly from what you've posted here it sounds really concerning.
I have a history of disordered eating that has really specific triggers, eating "healthily" is one of them. If someone was giving me the advice you've received (which sounds terrible tbh, "nothing with words you don't know" is beyond junk science, have you ever read the "ingredient list" for an apple or a banana? Loads of filling, nutritious foods have scary sounding ingredients) I would be in a full scale downward spiral. People with ED histories like us need to be so much more careful when it comes to dieting than most people do. For me, counting calories helps keep me on track but only as long as I keep my diet not super healthy, I have to have a variety of high-calorie foods in my week to stop my "I'm eating healthy now and must be perfect" trigger.
Wishing you the best of luck getting healthy, I know it's a long road.4 -
Update: I saw my doctor and he ran some blood tests. Normally I don't have enough iron and have to take supplements, we learned from the better food choices, the prescribed supplement, and the multi vitamin, that I actually had too much iron that was making me sick, it'll take time to get my iron levels where they need to be but at least now I have an answer and will be able to eat the right amount of calories.6
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Is there a reason that you're cutting out dairy and prepackaged food? Also, just because an ingredient is hard to pronounce, it doesn't make it bad for you.
There are no bad foods, just bad relationships to food (and incorrect portions).0
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