Pop (or soda): should I cut it out of my diet?
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stanmann571 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »
Do you know what else is okay for you... aspartame and sucralose.
I guess Aspartame is safe as long as you don't have phenylketonuria. I avoid it myself. Would like to see further studies on it. I'm on the fence with Sucralose, but DO use it in moderation.
For me though, one thing is clear; more studies need to be performed on all types of sweeteners. This is a case where moderation is truly the key. Though it may be (or not) healthier to lean towards the more natural sweeteners, when in doubt, practice moderation or avoid sweeteners entirely.
40 years of studies aren't sufficient??
There isn't complete agreement on the results of some of the studies of Aspartame. There has been some question as to the results of some of the studies. It could be fine. I just don't use it.0 -
I get barometric migraines on the regular, and that often means having them quite frequently.
Are your migraines chronic?
Perhaps you should see a headache specialist. I did and am forever glad for doing so.
I agree with the poster who said that caffeine is caffeine. Heck, you could take an Excedrin Migraine and get the same amount of caffeine as what's in the Mountain Dew. It's likely the sugar that's doing something for you at this point, and if that's the case, perhaps reviewing your diet to balance your macros differently (though not necessarily low carb or paleo as suggested upthread) might be helpful.0 -
There isn't complete agreement on the results of some of the studies of Aspartame. There has been some question as to the results of some of the studies. It could be fine. I just don't use it.
Careful with that kind of thinking. Global warming is accepted by 95% of scientists as fact. The other 5%? they are being PAID to oppose that fact. You will NEVER have 100% acceptance on anything when the other side is trying to profit from it.5 -
stanmann571 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »
Do you know what else is okay for you... aspartame and sucralose.
I guess Aspartame is safe as long as you don't have phenylketonuria. I avoid it myself. Would like to see further studies on it. I'm on the fence with Sucralose, but DO use it in moderation.
For me though, one thing is clear; more studies need to be performed on all types of sweeteners. This is a case where moderation is truly the key. Though it may be (or not) healthier to lean towards the more natural sweeteners, when in doubt, practice moderation or avoid sweeteners entirely.
40 years of studies aren't sufficient??
There isn't complete agreement on the results of some of the studies of Aspartame. There has been some question as to the results of some of the studies. It could be fine. I just don't use it.
Actually that's not true.
The studies have consistently shown that it is utterly and entirely safe... unless you have phenylketonuria.6 -
stanmann571 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »
Do you know what else is okay for you... aspartame and sucralose.
I guess Aspartame is safe as long as you don't have phenylketonuria. I avoid it myself. Would like to see further studies on it. I'm on the fence with Sucralose, but DO use it in moderation.
For me though, one thing is clear; more studies need to be performed on all types of sweeteners. This is a case where moderation is truly the key. Though it may be (or not) healthier to lean towards the more natural sweeteners, when in doubt, practice moderation or avoid sweeteners entirely.
40 years of studies aren't sufficient??
There isn't complete agreement on the results of some of the studies of Aspartame. There has been some question as to the results of some of the studies. It could be fine. I just don't use it.
Actually that's not true.
The studies have consistently shown that it is utterly and entirely safe... unless you have phenylketonuria.
And like any chemical you put in your body, some people don't do well with it. I am one of those. Put it in my tea for years. I don't feel it's unsafe but it caused demonstrable bladder irritation for me.0 -
stanmann571 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »
Do you know what else is okay for you... aspartame and sucralose.
I guess Aspartame is safe as long as you don't have phenylketonuria. I avoid it myself. Would like to see further studies on it. I'm on the fence with Sucralose, but DO use it in moderation.
For me though, one thing is clear; more studies need to be performed on all types of sweeteners. This is a case where moderation is truly the key. Though it may be (or not) healthier to lean towards the more natural sweeteners, when in doubt, practice moderation or avoid sweeteners entirely.
40 years of studies aren't sufficient??
There isn't complete agreement on the results of some of the studies of Aspartame. There has been some question as to the results of some of the studies. It could be fine. I just don't use it.
Actually that's not true.
The studies have consistently shown that it is utterly and entirely safe... unless you have phenylketonuria.
And it's FDA approved. So if someone likes it, and wants it, use it. I pass on it though. Personal choice.0 -
Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »There isn't complete agreement on the results of some of the studies of Aspartame. There has been some question as to the results of some of the studies. It could be fine. I just don't use it.
Careful with that kind of thinking. Global warming is accepted by 95% of scientists as fact. The other 5%? they are being PAID to oppose that fact. You will NEVER have 100% acceptance on anything when the other side is trying to profit from it.
Or vice versa. ;-)
Anyway, I DID say "I guess Aspartame is safe as long as you don't have phenylketonuria." I opt not to use it as a sweetener though. I also stressed that as with anything, moderation is key.0 -
stanmann571 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »
Do you know what else is okay for you... aspartame and sucralose.
I guess Aspartame is safe as long as you don't have phenylketonuria. I avoid it myself. Would like to see further studies on it. I'm on the fence with Sucralose, but DO use it in moderation.
For me though, one thing is clear; more studies need to be performed on all types of sweeteners. This is a case where moderation is truly the key. Though it may be (or not) healthier to lean towards the more natural sweeteners, when in doubt, practice moderation or avoid sweeteners entirely.
40 years of studies aren't sufficient??
There isn't complete agreement on the results of some of the studies of Aspartame. There has been some question as to the results of some of the studies. It could be fine. I just don't use it.
Actually that's not true.
The studies have consistently shown that it is utterly and entirely safe... unless you have phenylketonuria.
And like any chemical you put in your body, some people don't do well with it. I am one of those. Put it in my tea for years. I don't feel it's unsafe but it caused demonstrable bladder irritation for me.
I quit using it in my hot coffee because it ended up decomposing before drinking...0 -
OP,
You have to test out what works for you in the long term. If a can of soda a day fits into your calorie allowance and you can stick with 1 can, then no need to change. If diet soda works for you, then okay. If you cannot control your soda intake and it sends you over your calorie allowance, then maybe you need to eliminate it.
I personally cannot manage the first, cannot stand the second, so am on the last method. I find my consumption creeps up after about 4 to 6 weeks. I rationalize that I'll get back on track with 1 can a day, but don't. It's one thing where I'm at one end of the extreme or the other. Coming up on 6 weeks soda and caffeine free.1 -
I cut soda out of my diet entirely a little over a year ago. One day, I just wanted water for a drink at dinner. Never looked back since. There are still times when I wish I could have a 20oz, but I'm resisting temptation.4
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katieiwoosley wrote: »I'm working on changing my eating habits, trying to eat less saturated fats, more proteins, etc. That being said, a lot of calories and sugars come from pop (soda) I've always loved the bubbly side of the carbonated beverages, but as I've gotten older, I've found that the caffeine in it helps a lot with preventing my barometric migraines. I've tried coffee and tea for the caffeine but it just doesn't work as well. At this point I've managed to cut down to only one pop a day. At the moment my pop of choice is Mt. Dew Voltage and it has 170 calories per can. Is there another caffinated pop that would be better for me to drink, or should I bear through the migraines and try to find a caffeine supplement.
Diet. Heck I have not drank sugared sodas in over 30 years.3 -
The only thing I gave up completely when I started losing weight was regular Pepsi. I probably drank 2litres of the stuff per day. I avoided diet soda for a while and subbed in sparkling water. After some time, I did add back diet soda because I really do like the 'brown bubbly soda sweet.'
The reason I gave it up is I just couldn't reasonably keep it in my diet and meet my calorie goals. I'd rather eat FOOD than drink my calories.2 -
As a side note: How are your teeth?
A cousin of mine did a few years of the typical computer programmer "Live on Mt. Dew" thing - and wound up with thousands of dollars of dental work. Dentist said that dentists actually talk about "Mountain Dew Mouth," and its not just the sugar, its the acid.
Is the fizz really worth it?2 -
I used to drink soda all day every day and now I've cut down to just one to help with my headaches. Going well so far, I'm not sure if I want to switch to diet though.0
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As a side note: How are your teeth?
A cousin of mine did a few years of the typical computer programmer "Live on Mt. Dew" thing - and wound up with thousands of dollars of dental work. Dentist said that dentists actually talk about "Mountain Dew Mouth," and its not just the sugar, its the acid.
Is the fizz really worth it?
mt dew mouth also is caused by not taking care of your teeth properly(brushing,flossing,etc). if you are taking care of your teeth then sugar wont be much of an issue, now if you have bad genetics and bad teeth no matter what you do then you are screwed. my nephew when he was younger had to have all his baby teeth pulled because of MT dew mouth,his mom did not encourage brushing and flossing.
his older brother now has bad teeth because of not brushing and flossing and drinking lots of soda. any food can cause decay if you arent practicing proper oral hygiene. my daughter drinks soda and her dentist told her to floss and rinse out her mouth after drinking it to remove what sugar she could. her teeth are in good condition. she doesnt drink a lot though. mt dew mouth is a big issue here in WV and KY actually.but then when you are an adult and cant afford dental care(its not even covered on state insurance all thats covered are extractions) then for many its a lose lose situation..I mean people can do the best they can but when you cant see a dentist for some its like pointless in their eyes.2 -
As a side note: How are your teeth?
A cousin of mine did a few years of the typical computer programmer "Live on Mt. Dew" thing - and wound up with thousands of dollars of dental work. Dentist said that dentists actually talk about "Mountain Dew Mouth," and its not just the sugar, its the acid.
Is the fizz really worth it?
I'm 41. from 17-25 on the hard stuff... Diet dew ever since. No notable dental problems.0 -
I drink diet if I want soda. I know it's not good for you but oh well. Sometimes I just want some caffiene and fizz. I don't drink it all that much maybe once or twice a week0
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For your health, absolutely. And I think that's more important than weight loss1
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@CMNVA @GottaBurnEmAll Alayariel75 I have had the fact that it's different confirmed by several doctors actually. The caffeine in tea and coffee are naturally there, where as the caffeine in a pop is man made. I have some caffeine pills, I usually have to take two, drink 30oz of coffee and two Voltage. That is, on a bad day, usually when seasons are changing and there are a lot of storms. But when the weather isn't fluctuating around a lot, I can usually drink a voltage and take some tylenol and Ibuprofen, have a nap and then be fine.0
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@alittlesandy @PrincessMom08 @Rob_in_MI @RodaRose @sijomial I can't stand Diet Mt. Dew at all. I haven't been able to drink it since I was little. When I was young, basically until I was twelve, anytime I got sick, even if it was just a simple cold, I would run a really high fever, 104-106. Well rather than take me to the ER every single time, where the doctors literally knew who I was when I walked in by the ripe age of 6, she phoned the doctors personal cell phone and told him what was going on. I always had to take a combination of like 5 different fever reducers, we'll I was really bad about refusing meds, and my mom would bribe me with about Dt. Mt. Dew. And it always worked. Well one time, I got a batch of it that had been recalled, I spent hours vomiting and crying in pain because of my stomach. In the end I was fine, it was basically food poisoning, however, just seeing someone drink the stuff sends me into a gagging fit and I have to leave until it's gone. @whitpauly I have been able to cut down to only one a day, sometimes just a few a week.
@Sunna_W I'm actually pre-diabetic and I've been using them to bring my sugar back up after an exercise, then eating as small a serving I can get away with of something that will keep it up. I asked my father to get me some glucose tabs to take afterwards instead. I don't really want an extra meal, I'm just kinda forced to have one. Sometimes more than one because I workout in stages throughout the day because I also have activity induced asthma.
I think all in all though I'm just going to stick to one a day, it's honestly my only not-so-healthy addiction that I have. So just one a day, maybe just a few a week. The rest of the time I drink a sugar free, 5 calorie juice mix. I can drink an entire 30oz Rtic tumbler of it and only consume a total of fifteen calories from it. So I guess as long as I'm not trying to binge on it, it's really not that bad.
Thanks everyone that replied though, gave me several thing to think over.0 -
ABSOLUTELY cut the pop out of your diet- regular or diet. if you like fizzy, try switching to flavored seltzer water (with no artificial sweetener) or regular seltzer with lemon/lime or a shot of any 100% fruit juice for a little flavor/ sweetness. Avoid drinks with artificial sweeteners. They are linked to migraines and you already have them. Besides the fact that artificial sweeteners are like poison, cause inflammation, and dramatically increase insulin response- making you more hungry and can cause weight GAIN! If you are concerned about caffeine withdrawal, a cup of coffee/tea or green tea with honey or stevia can help.
Good luck and good health!
Holy fearmongering, batman!1 -
Diet mountain dew is mad good0
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Reduce your intake if you absolutely have to have it. For me it's not necessarily the calorie aspect of it but the sugar. You probably could easily fit a 140cal can into your daily calorie allowance, and if you can fit the sugar aspect of it too, go for it. Make it a daily treat, finding a compromise somewhere can make it easier to stick to than going cold turkey. Not a fan of the diet drinks so can't personally recommend, they always tasted awful.0
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I have to assume all the posters saying to just drink water either didn't actually read the OP or at the least have never had a migraine
OP, if you can fit it in your calories, drink your Mt Dew. I suspect it is the combo of caffeine and sugar. How do you drink your coffee? Perhaps if you put some milk and a little sugar you can get the same effect with less cals.1 -
^ Absolutely none of that is true. Not one bit of it. Post links to the research....Besides the fact that artificial sweeteners are like poison, cause inflammation, and dramatically increase insulin response- making you more hungry and can cause weight GAIN!
If you really would like to see more research, here you go, for starters: 93 pages of research review of known studies on aspartame: http://seriecientifica.org/sites/default/files/scl_enc_butchko.pdfstanmann571 wrote: »
Do you know what else is okay for you... aspartame and sucralose.
I guess Aspartame is safe as long as you don't have phenylketonuria. I avoid it myself. Would like to see further studies on it. I'm on the fence with Sucralose, but DO use it in moderation.
It's one of the most studied substances in existence, not sure how many more studies there need to be to say the same thing all the other studies have already said.3 -
katieiwoosley wrote: »@alittlesandy @PrincessMom08 @Rob_in_MI @RodaRose @sijomial I can't stand Diet Mt. Dew at all. I haven't been able to drink it since I was little. When I was young, basically until I was twelve, anytime I got sick, even if it was just a simple cold, I would run a really high fever, 104-106. Well rather than take me to the ER every single time, where the doctors literally knew who I was when I walked in by the ripe age of 6, she phoned the doctors personal cell phone and told him what was going on. I always had to take a combination of like 5 different fever reducers, we'll I was really bad about refusing meds, and my mom would bribe me with about Dt. Mt. Dew. And it always worked. Well one time, I got a batch of it that had been recalled, I spent hours vomiting and crying in pain because of my stomach. In the end I was fine, it was basically food poisoning, however, just seeing someone drink the stuff sends me into a gagging fit and I have to leave until it's gone
I can relate. I feel the same way about cheap tequila or sloe gin0 -
ABSOLUTELY cut the pop out of your diet- regular or diet. if you like fizzy, try switching to flavored seltzer water (with no artificial sweetener) or regular seltzer with lemon/lime or a shot of any 100% fruit juice for a little flavor/ sweetness. Avoid drinks with artificial sweeteners. They are linked to migraines and you already have them. Besides the fact that artificial sweeteners are like poison, cause inflammation, and dramatically increase insulin response- making you more hungry and can cause weight GAIN! If you are concerned about caffeine withdrawal, a cup of coffee/tea or green tea with honey or stevia can help.
Good luck and good health!
Artificial sweeteners are NOT poison...2 -
I would say yes, but try just cutting back first. It can't hurt to try.0
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ABSOLUTELY cut the pop out of your diet- regular or diet. if you like fizzy, try switching to flavored seltzer water (with no artificial sweetener) or regular seltzer with lemon/lime or a shot of any 100% fruit juice for a little flavor/ sweetness. Avoid drinks with artificial sweeteners. They are linked to migraines and you already have them. Besides the fact that artificial sweeteners are like poison, cause inflammation, and dramatically increase insulin response- making you more hungry and can cause weight GAIN! If you are concerned about caffeine withdrawal, a cup of coffee/tea or green tea with honey or stevia can help.
Good luck and good health!
for you that may be the case but, lets see I have RA(rheumatoid arthritis) and I consume a lot of diet products, they dont make me more hungry(I eat less when I consume them as it doesnt make me more hungry in fact Im less hungry) and I dont have excess inflammation. I also dont have migraines because of them.There are days I consume a lot of diet foods and I dont have those issues.1 -
@savithny My teeth are great actually. The only problem I've ever had are my two front bottom teeth. I started having problems with them as soon as they came in when I was like 12 and of course they're adult teeth so can't really do much other than sensitive tooth paste. I can't stand sensitive tooth paste, it tastes medicated to me. So my dentist told me not to worry about the tooth paste as long as I could find a way to eat and drink without touching it to those teeth. And I have. If I may though, a lot of people and dentists think that tooth problems stem from what we eat or drink. I'm sure it doesn't help, but a lot of studies show that genetics play a large role in how you're teeth handle the things you eat. My mom's and everyone on her side of the family have horrible teeth that constantly get cavities and accesses, although all their teeth Allred naturally straight. My father's family have very crooked teeth, but said teeth are very strong and healthy. I have always had very strong, healthy, straight teeth. All of my father's girls (mom has two older kids) have strong straight teeth. While all his sons have crooked fragile teeth. The only other problem I had was when I was young, I got an accessed molar. The dentist determined it was caused by a recent allergic reaction I had to something I ate, and it most likely had gotten a little tiny peice under the edge of my gum. It was like chips or something. He pulled it and I never had any other problems with my actual teeth. And the problem with my mouth was unrelated to consumption of anything, it was a development at birth.0
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