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  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
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    Literally the only thing worth doing is seeing the endo. Supplements are going to be next to worthless for legitimately diagnosed low testosterone. Dietary changes could help but that assumes you are deficient in something. It is quite possible that you are not and simply have low testosterone for other reasons. As mentioned, TRT is a lifelong commitment but if you have been tested several times and your testosterone has remained low each time, it is unlikely to rebound on its own. Talk to the endo about the risks versus benefits and make an informed decision. Don't waste time with supplements and minor dietary changes. If you diet is truly deficient in vitamin D, cholesterol, very low in fat, or contains some other major deficiency it's worth fixing those things in the meantime but don't expect a miracle.
    JeromeBarry1 wrote: »
    Of course you've been diagnosed with "Low T". The low T business which enticed you with advertising is staffed with a doctor whose only business is diagnosing every male with low T then prescribing them with a naturally occurring hormone which occurs naturally in all men and in some men at higher levels and thus Dr T is unlikely to ever lose a malpractice suit and his malpractice insurance is actually quite low. What a business that is!. Kiss your money goodbye.
    How can a doctor diagnose "every male" with low testosterone. It's a blood test and your level is either below the limit that is considered low or it isn't. Are you suggesting doctors are altering lab samples? A doctor is very unlikely to prescribe TRT to any man with a testosterone level within normal limits. Additionally, the fact that testosterone is naturally occuring is irrelevant. Just because it occurs naturally doesn't mean that everyone produces sufficient amounts. Some people are deficient in thyroid hormones that occur naturally and require outside supplementation. That's no different. The point is that not everyone's body functions optimally and correcting imbalances can lead to a better quality of life. The symptoms of low testosterone suck and exploring the risks versus benefits of replacement therapy is a very good idea.
  • crushingitdaily12345
    crushingitdaily12345 Posts: 577 Member
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    I was diagnosed with this after one low test last year... and I could tell that I wasn't the same guy in the love department anymore... After 90 days of truly eating great food, getting regular exercise, and being healthy... I have better boners now than I did when I was 16... Great food really does help!
  • Espressocycle
    Espressocycle Posts: 2,245 Member
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    Ashwaganda works for me. It also gives you super sperm, so watch out for that.
  • jseams1234
    jseams1234 Posts: 1,218 Member
    edited June 2017
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    vismal wrote: »
    Literally the only thing worth doing is seeing the endo. Supplements are going to be next to worthless for legitimately diagnosed low testosterone. Dietary changes could help but that assumes you are deficient in something. It is quite possible that you are not and simply have low testosterone for other reasons. As mentioned, TRT is a lifelong commitment but if you have been tested several times and your testosterone has remained low each time, it is unlikely to rebound on its own. Talk to the endo about the risks versus benefits and make an informed decision. Don't waste time with supplements and minor dietary changes. If you diet is truly deficient in vitamin D, cholesterol, very low in fat, or contains some other major deficiency it's worth fixing those things in the meantime but don't expect a miracle.
    JeromeBarry1 wrote: »
    Of course you've been diagnosed with "Low T". The low T business which enticed you with advertising is staffed with a doctor whose only business is diagnosing every male with low T then prescribing them with a naturally occurring hormone which occurs naturally in all men and in some men at higher levels and thus Dr T is unlikely to ever lose a malpractice suit and his malpractice insurance is actually quite low. What a business that is!. Kiss your money goodbye.
    How can a doctor diagnose "every male" with low testosterone. It's a blood test and your level is either below the limit that is considered low or it isn't. Are you suggesting doctors are altering lab samples? A doctor is very unlikely to prescribe TRT to any man with a testosterone level within normal limits. Additionally, the fact that testosterone is naturally occuring is irrelevant. Just because it occurs naturally doesn't mean that everyone produces sufficient amounts. Some people are deficient in thyroid hormones that occur naturally and require outside supplementation. That's no different. The point is that not everyone's body functions optimally and correcting imbalances can lead to a better quality of life. The symptoms of low testosterone suck and exploring the risks versus benefits of replacement therapy is a very good idea.

    Well, 9 out of 10 isn't "everybody" but darn close. lol. It's subjective to a point. Here is some info from a HRT "business" in my area. They charge $300 a month and it includes all lab work, doctors visits and medication. $300 a month for the rest of your life... lol

    "How it works:
    STEP 1: MOBILE BLOOD SAMPLE: We send a mobile phlebotomist to your home or office, where we (1) record your vitals and (2) draw a blood sample.
    STEP 2: HORMONE REPORT: Within 4 to 7 business days (usually) our blood laboratory will test your blood and report a comprehensive hormone panel on your ***** mobile app. The report will include levels on testosterone, free testosterone, estrogen, thyroid, adrenals, progesterone, PSA (for men), hemoglobin, hematocrit, Vitamin B12 and Vitamin D.
    STEP 3: MEDICAL CONSULT: An in-network medical practitioner will call you and decide whether you qualify for treatment (90% of our patients qualify) – and pending qualification, administer a prescription protocol for the sake of optimizing all of your main hormone levels, as well as offer insight on vitamin levels, fitness and nutrition."
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
    edited June 2017
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    jseams1234 wrote: »
    vismal wrote: »
    Literally the only thing worth doing is seeing the endo. Supplements are going to be next to worthless for legitimately diagnosed low testosterone. Dietary changes could help but that assumes you are deficient in something. It is quite possible that you are not and simply have low testosterone for other reasons. As mentioned, TRT is a lifelong commitment but if you have been tested several times and your testosterone has remained low each time, it is unlikely to rebound on its own. Talk to the endo about the risks versus benefits and make an informed decision. Don't waste time with supplements and minor dietary changes. If you diet is truly deficient in vitamin D, cholesterol, very low in fat, or contains some other major deficiency it's worth fixing those things in the meantime but don't expect a miracle.
    JeromeBarry1 wrote: »
    Of course you've been diagnosed with "Low T". The low T business which enticed you with advertising is staffed with a doctor whose only business is diagnosing every male with low T then prescribing them with a naturally occurring hormone which occurs naturally in all men and in some men at higher levels and thus Dr T is unlikely to ever lose a malpractice suit and his malpractice insurance is actually quite low. What a business that is!. Kiss your money goodbye.
    How can a doctor diagnose "every male" with low testosterone. It's a blood test and your level is either below the limit that is considered low or it isn't. Are you suggesting doctors are altering lab samples? A doctor is very unlikely to prescribe TRT to any man with a testosterone level within normal limits. Additionally, the fact that testosterone is naturally occuring is irrelevant. Just because it occurs naturally doesn't mean that everyone produces sufficient amounts. Some people are deficient in thyroid hormones that occur naturally and require outside supplementation. That's no different. The point is that not everyone's body functions optimally and correcting imbalances can lead to a better quality of life. The symptoms of low testosterone suck and exploring the risks versus benefits of replacement therapy is a very good idea.

    Well, 9 out of 10 isn't "everybody" but darn close. lol. It's subjective to a point. Here is some info from a HRT "business" in my area. They charge $300 a month and it includes all lab work, doctors visits and medication. $300 a month for the rest of your life... lol

    "How it works:
    STEP 1: MOBILE BLOOD SAMPLE: We send a mobile phlebotomist to your home or office, where we (1) record your vitals and (2) draw a blood sample.
    STEP 2: HORMONE REPORT: Within 4 to 7 business days (usually) our blood laboratory will test your blood and report a comprehensive hormone panel on your ***** mobile app. The report will include levels on testosterone, free testosterone, estrogen, thyroid, adrenals, progesterone, PSA (for men), hemoglobin, hematocrit, Vitamin B12 and Vitamin D.
    STEP 3: MEDICAL CONSULT: An in-network medical practitioner will call you and decide whether you qualify for treatment (90% of our patients qualify) – and pending qualification, administer a prescription protocol for the sake of optimizing all of your main hormone levels, as well as offer insight on vitamin levels, fitness and nutrition."

    But I don't think that the OP did this. It seems he went to a general practitioner, got diagnosed, and was given a endocrinology consult. Why pay the 300 bucks a month unless you have no health insurance? If you see a GP and they are comfortable doing TRT or consult an endo many insurances should cover the majority of the cost of both visits and treatment. Yes, you can go to a TRT clinic and probably get prescribed but to me that seems like what people who aren't actually medically deficit do. A skilled endocrinologist simply isn't going to prescribe TRT to a man with a normal testosterone level unless a very special circumstance exists. If you are indeed deficient and have insurance it would be more cost effective to see your GP/Endo and your care is likely to be managed better as well. I'm not arguing that you can't get a bogus diagnosis from a TRT clinic if you really want to be on TRT but the OP doesn't seem to be doing this. The point I was making is that legitimate testosterone deficiency certainly does exist, it has negative effects on the body, and treatment is absolutely an option worth considering.
  • cee134
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    Researchers from the University of California, Santa Barbara have discovered that chopping wood significantly increases testosterone levels, even more so than competitive activities. Scientists have known for a while that competitive exercise, like sports, tend to increase how much testosterone the body releases.
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
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    cee134 wrote: »
    Researchers from the University of California, Santa Barbara have discovered that chopping wood significantly increases testosterone levels, even more so than competitive activities. Scientists have known for a while that competitive exercise, like sports, tend to increase how much testosterone the body releases.

    But this is only temporary. Usual during the activity and very shortly after. It is not an effective way to treat low testosterone and won't help with symptoms.
  • jseams1234
    jseams1234 Posts: 1,218 Member
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    vismal wrote: »
    jseams1234 wrote: »
    vismal wrote: »
    Literally the only thing worth doing is seeing the endo. Supplements are going to be next to worthless for legitimately diagnosed low testosterone. Dietary changes could help but that assumes you are deficient in something. It is quite possible that you are not and simply have low testosterone for other reasons. As mentioned, TRT is a lifelong commitment but if you have been tested several times and your testosterone has remained low each time, it is unlikely to rebound on its own. Talk to the endo about the risks versus benefits and make an informed decision. Don't waste time with supplements and minor dietary changes. If you diet is truly deficient in vitamin D, cholesterol, very low in fat, or contains some other major deficiency it's worth fixing those things in the meantime but don't expect a miracle.
    JeromeBarry1 wrote: »
    Of course you've been diagnosed with "Low T". The low T business which enticed you with advertising is staffed with a doctor whose only business is diagnosing every male with low T then prescribing them with a naturally occurring hormone which occurs naturally in all men and in some men at higher levels and thus Dr T is unlikely to ever lose a malpractice suit and his malpractice insurance is actually quite low. What a business that is!. Kiss your money goodbye.
    How can a doctor diagnose "every male" with low testosterone. It's a blood test and your level is either below the limit that is considered low or it isn't. Are you suggesting doctors are altering lab samples? A doctor is very unlikely to prescribe TRT to any man with a testosterone level within normal limits. Additionally, the fact that testosterone is naturally occuring is irrelevant. Just because it occurs naturally doesn't mean that everyone produces sufficient amounts. Some people are deficient in thyroid hormones that occur naturally and require outside supplementation. That's no different. The point is that not everyone's body functions optimally and correcting imbalances can lead to a better quality of life. The symptoms of low testosterone suck and exploring the risks versus benefits of replacement therapy is a very good idea.

    Well, 9 out of 10 isn't "everybody" but darn close. lol. It's subjective to a point. Here is some info from a HRT "business" in my area. They charge $300 a month and it includes all lab work, doctors visits and medication. $300 a month for the rest of your life... lol

    "How it works:
    STEP 1: MOBILE BLOOD SAMPLE: We send a mobile phlebotomist to your home or office, where we (1) record your vitals and (2) draw a blood sample.
    STEP 2: HORMONE REPORT: Within 4 to 7 business days (usually) our blood laboratory will test your blood and report a comprehensive hormone panel on your ***** mobile app. The report will include levels on testosterone, free testosterone, estrogen, thyroid, adrenals, progesterone, PSA (for men), hemoglobin, hematocrit, Vitamin B12 and Vitamin D.
    STEP 3: MEDICAL CONSULT: An in-network medical practitioner will call you and decide whether you qualify for treatment (90% of our patients qualify) – and pending qualification, administer a prescription protocol for the sake of optimizing all of your main hormone levels, as well as offer insight on vitamin levels, fitness and nutrition."

    But I don't think that the OP did this. It seems he went to a general practitioner, got diagnosed, and was given a endocrinology consult. Why pay the 300 bucks a month unless you have no health insurance? If you see a GP and they are comfortable doing TRT or consult an endo many insurances should cover the majority of the cost of both visits and treatment. Yes, you can go to a TRT clinic and probably get prescribed but to me that seems like what people who aren't actually medically deficit do. A skilled endocrinologist simply isn't going to prescribe TRT to a man with a normal testosterone level unless a very special circumstance exists. If you are indeed deficient and have insurance it would be more cost effective to see your GP/Endo and your care is likely to be managed better as well. I'm not arguing that you can't get a bogus diagnosis from a TRT clinic if you really want to be on TRT but the OP doesn't seem to be doing this. The point I was making is that legitimate testosterone deficiency certainly does exist, it has negative effects on the body, and treatment is absolutely an option worth considering.

    I can agree with this. I am still curious about the OP's "low" readings. I'd hoped he would supply some actual numbers.
  • BedsideTableKangaroo
    BedsideTableKangaroo Posts: 736 Member
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    cee134 wrote: »
    chopping wood

    kinda the exact opposite of what we try to achieve with t boost.

  • ccsernica
    ccsernica Posts: 1,040 Member
    edited June 2017
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    vismal wrote: »
    How can a doctor diagnose "every male" with low testosterone. It's a blood test and your level is either below the limit that is considered low or it isn't. Are you suggesting doctors are altering lab samples?

    What they do at the questionable clinics is to redefine the reference range and give TRT to men who are not in fact clinically deficient. That's why they aren't covered by insurance. Their treatments are not medically necessary.

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