Need some opinions on new diet!

Zibilyonik
Zibilyonik Posts: 11 Member
in Health and Weight Loss
I have started boxing around 2 weeks ago and to be honest, I'm in love. I've been training for almost a year and I always felt weak(not weak as in muscles) but now I feel like the muscle I have built is actually good for something other than carrying my neighbour's stuff. But after the training on last Friday I was chatting with my coach and he told me to cut my 2000-2400 cal diet to a 1500 cal diet and STILL asked me to manage taking around 180-200g of protein while doing so. Do you think it is a good idea to cut it that far down, should I start taking supplements instead of eating everything off of meals? I'm really stuck because I actually did lose around 2 kg just this week, but I have been having mood swings all over the place. I would really appreciate any comments on this situation to see pros and cons of this. Thank you!

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  • alondrakayy
    alondrakayy Posts: 304 Member
    I'm no expert, but I don't believe it's recommended for a male to eat that little amount of calories. Why did your trainer suggest that? How tall are you?
  • JeromeBarry1
    JeromeBarry1 Posts: 10,179 Member
    What is your weight now?
    2 kg loss in the first week of serious calorie cutting is probably mostly water and won't be repeated often.

  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,426 MFP Moderator
    edited June 2017
    1500 is generally too low for most active males. Were you losing weight at 2000 to 2200? If so, how much?

    Also, aggressively cutting calories can definitely cause mood swings, especially anger
  • Zibilyonik
    Zibilyonik Posts: 11 Member
    alondrakayy wrote: »
    I'm no expert, but I don't believe it's recommended for a male to eat that little amount of calories. Why did your trainer suggest that? How tall are you?
    I am 179 cm and 103 kg right now and I have no idea why he went so far, normally I would expect a 2k diet with increased workout plan but he seems dedicated enough to kill me to get me in shape.
    JeromeBarry1 wrote: »
    What is your weight now?
    2 kg loss in the first week of serious calorie cutting is probably mostly water and won't be repeated often.
    I have lost around 9 kg in total last month, doing hiit training twice/ three times a week and doing muscle training with 30 min cardio around 4 times a week. I know that the weight i lost during this time is mostly water, but it is still unexpected to lose such amounts of weight after working out for around 7 months.



    psuLemon wrote: »
    1500 is generally too low for most active males. Were you losing weight at 2000 to 2200? If so, how much?

    Also, aggressively cutting calories can definitely cause mood swings, especially anger

    I have been doing 2k-2.5k for around 4 months, and i went from 115kg to 106 during that time. Recently i started doing hiit training as well as lower cal and the weight loss got faster.
  • nowine4me
    nowine4me Posts: 3,985 Member
    You need to decide what your goal is. Then let your trainer focus on workouts and consult a dietician about nutrition. My 2 cents
  • RodaRose
    RodaRose Posts: 9,562 Member
    2000-2400 seems about right. You can get the calories in protein shakes and smoothies if you want.
    It is important to get enough calories.
  • Luna3386
    Luna3386 Posts: 888 Member
    I have great success following mfp's recommendations.

    I hate when people suggest such a large cut. There is no way you could feel good on that amount unless you are very sedentary and no working out.

    Keep doing what you were doing. Unless you were having the mood swings with your previous amounts. Then, with the added boxing you may actually need more calories.
  • Zibilyonik
    Zibilyonik Posts: 11 Member
    Thank you very much for all your suggestions. I will try to keep it around 1.7-2.1 and see if I can survive through my usual workout plan. Hopefully this will be high enough to keep me alive but low enough to not get my coach raging at me :) .
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,089 Member
    Zibilyonik wrote: »
    Thank you very much for all your suggestions. I will try to keep it around 1.7-2.1 and see if I can survive through my usual workout plan. Hopefully this will be high enough to keep me alive but low enough to not get my coach raging at me :) .

    Is this a coach that you're paying? If so, the solution is simple. Stop paying him, because with that advice, he isn't worth whatever you're paying him. And if you stop paying him, he's not likely to spend time raging at you for free rather than finding someone else who's willing to pay him to dole out bad advice and rage.
  • brznhabits
    brznhabits Posts: 126 Member
    I recommend deciding on your goals, quick cut or something more sustainable? If the latter tell your trainer and have him work within "your" goals.
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    Zibilyonik wrote: »
    Thank you very much for all your suggestions. I will try to keep it around 1.7-2.1 and see if I can survive through my usual workout plan. Hopefully this will be high enough to keep me alive but low enough to not get my coach raging at me :) .

    Is your coach a registered dietician? I doubt it, because his advice is crap. You were losing just fine before. Cutting too steep will most likely trash your muscle mass. Tell him you have been having success with what you were doing and that you tried it his way and don't feel well, so you are going to keep doing it your way. A good trainer will take what you want into consideration.
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    Zibilyonik wrote: »
    Thank you very much for all your suggestions. I will try to keep it around 1.7-2.1 and see if I can survive through my usual workout plan. Hopefully this will be high enough to keep me alive but low enough to not get my coach raging at me :) .

    The aim isn't to "survive" your workouts. It's to thrive on your workouts.
    We will train and recover far better with a smaller deficit and will gain more from the workouts.

    You need to man up a bit and stand up to your coach if he is "raging at you"!
  • HeliumIsNoble
    HeliumIsNoble Posts: 1,213 Member
    edited June 2017
    And this is a man you're paying ? Look, he's not your boss, or your dad. He's a bloke you pay to help you achieve your own targets. You're not going to lose your job and you don't have to placate him for an easy life.

    "Thanks for the recommendation. I've considered it, and the new plan doesn't work for me. I'm happy with my current rate of loss and I don't want to increase it."

    ^Practise saying that in the mirror ten times.



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