17,000 calorie challenge
sawguoyi923
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As you can tell from the title, this might not be the healthiest of "challenges", but i recently just got off a 30 day diet (cut), and want to have a blow out. Please do add me as a friend, so you can see how insane that is going to be! Wish me luck LOL
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As in you're going to consume 17,000 calories in a day? When is this happening? Post it here! Updates, pictures of the food (not the vomit afterwards). :laugh:1
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nutmegoreo wrote: »As in you're going to consume 17,000 calories in a day? When is this happening? Post it here! Updates, pictures of the food (not the vomit afterwards). :laugh:
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So you cut for 30 days and your goal is to gain 4 pounds of fat in a night.0
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RAD_Fitness wrote: »
Going by the numbers if the OP hits the goal that's about what would happen. That's not even counting water, glycogen, and waste.1 -
RAD_Fitness wrote: »
Going by the numbers if the OP hits the goal that's about what would happen. That's not even counting water, glycogen, and waste.
You said fat; glycogen, water and waste has nothing to do with anything.
OP will not put on 4 pounds of fat in 1 day with a 14,000 calorie surplus.0 -
RAD_Fitness wrote: »RAD_Fitness wrote: »
Going by the numbers if the OP hits the goal that's about what would happen. That's not even counting water, glycogen, and waste.
You said fat; glycogen, water and waste has nothing to do with anything.
OP will not put on 4 pounds of fat in 1 day with a 14,000 calorie surplus.
And how do you think can someone eat that large of a surplus and not store it as fat. Magic?0 -
RAD_Fitness wrote: »RAD_Fitness wrote: »
Going by the numbers if the OP hits the goal that's about what would happen. That's not even counting water, glycogen, and waste.
You said fat; glycogen, water and waste has nothing to do with anything.
OP will not put on 4 pounds of fat in 1 day with a 14,000 calorie surplus.
And how do you think can someone eat that large of a surplus and not store it as fat. Magic?
I'm not saying they would not put on some fat. Not 4 pounds like you've proposed they would.
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RAD_Fitness wrote: »RAD_Fitness wrote: »RAD_Fitness wrote: »
Going by the numbers if the OP hits the goal that's about what would happen. That's not even counting water, glycogen, and waste.
You said fat; glycogen, water and waste has nothing to do with anything.
OP will not put on 4 pounds of fat in 1 day with a 14,000 calorie surplus.
And how do you think can someone eat that large of a surplus and not store it as fat. Magic?
I'm not saying they would not put on some fat. Not 4 pounds like you've proposed they would.
How would they magically not store 14,000 extra calories? If we assume that the studies are still fairly accurate and 3,500 calories is a pound of fat then 14,000 extra calories would be 4 pounds. Where are the extra calories going if not to fat (ignoring thermic effect of food)? Are you assuming your body would just not digest and absorb all of the calories at that massive of a surplus?0 -
RAD_Fitness wrote: »RAD_Fitness wrote: »RAD_Fitness wrote: »
Going by the numbers if the OP hits the goal that's about what would happen. That's not even counting water, glycogen, and waste.
You said fat; glycogen, water and waste has nothing to do with anything.
OP will not put on 4 pounds of fat in 1 day with a 14,000 calorie surplus.
And how do you think can someone eat that large of a surplus and not store it as fat. Magic?
I'm not saying they would not put on some fat. Not 4 pounds like you've proposed they would.
How would they magically not store 14,000 extra calories? If we assume that the studies are still fairly accurate and 3,500 calories is a pound of fat then 14,000 extra calories would be 4 pounds. Where are the extra calories going if not to fat (ignoring thermic effect of food)? Are you assuming your body would just not digest and absorb all of the calories at that massive of a surplus?
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RAD_Fitness wrote: »RAD_Fitness wrote: »RAD_Fitness wrote: »RAD_Fitness wrote: »
Going by the numbers if the OP hits the goal that's about what would happen. That's not even counting water, glycogen, and waste.
You said fat; glycogen, water and waste has nothing to do with anything.
OP will not put on 4 pounds of fat in 1 day with a 14,000 calorie surplus.
And how do you think can someone eat that large of a surplus and not store it as fat. Magic?
I'm not saying they would not put on some fat. Not 4 pounds like you've proposed they would.
How would they magically not store 14,000 extra calories? If we assume that the studies are still fairly accurate and 3,500 calories is a pound of fat then 14,000 extra calories would be 4 pounds. Where are the extra calories going if not to fat (ignoring thermic effect of food)? Are you assuming your body would just not digest and absorb all of the calories at that massive of a surplus?
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Got any sort of studies that show the body can only absorb a certain amount of calories? I mean, our digestive systems don't stop digesting a couple of hours after eating and food stays in our bodies for several days breaking down different ways through the digestive tract, so it's not like there's a shut off.0 -
I feel like its gonna be a pizza fest!!! eat some for me!!0
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RAD_Fitness wrote: »RAD_Fitness wrote: »RAD_Fitness wrote: »RAD_Fitness wrote: »
Going by the numbers if the OP hits the goal that's about what would happen. That's not even counting water, glycogen, and waste.
You said fat; glycogen, water and waste has nothing to do with anything.
OP will not put on 4 pounds of fat in 1 day with a 14,000 calorie surplus.
And how do you think can someone eat that large of a surplus and not store it as fat. Magic?
I'm not saying they would not put on some fat. Not 4 pounds like you've proposed they would.
How would they magically not store 14,000 extra calories? If we assume that the studies are still fairly accurate and 3,500 calories is a pound of fat then 14,000 extra calories would be 4 pounds. Where are the extra calories going if not to fat (ignoring thermic effect of food)? Are you assuming your body would just not digest and absorb all of the calories at that massive of a surplus?
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Got any sort of studies that show the body can only absorb a certain amount of calories? I mean, our digestive systems don't stop digesting a couple of hours after eating and food stays in our bodies for several days breaking down different ways through the digestive tract, so it's not like there's a shut off.
I've read the studies, there are plenty and it's pretty common knowledge for anyone that's even been curious about overeating and how it effects your body.
There's also a guy on YouTube who eats MASSIVE amounts of food and does not gain fat the way you are saying he would. He'll eat 40,000/50,000/60,000 calories in a couple days and do a couple bike rides and lifting sessions. Even if he was burning 15,000 over the two days (which I'm sure he's not as he's a pretty small guy) he most definitely did not put on 10-13 pounds of fat.0 -
RAD_Fitness wrote: »RAD_Fitness wrote: »RAD_Fitness wrote: »RAD_Fitness wrote: »RAD_Fitness wrote: »
Going by the numbers if the OP hits the goal that's about what would happen. That's not even counting water, glycogen, and waste.
You said fat; glycogen, water and waste has nothing to do with anything.
OP will not put on 4 pounds of fat in 1 day with a 14,000 calorie surplus.
And how do you think can someone eat that large of a surplus and not store it as fat. Magic?
I'm not saying they would not put on some fat. Not 4 pounds like you've proposed they would.
How would they magically not store 14,000 extra calories? If we assume that the studies are still fairly accurate and 3,500 calories is a pound of fat then 14,000 extra calories would be 4 pounds. Where are the extra calories going if not to fat (ignoring thermic effect of food)? Are you assuming your body would just not digest and absorb all of the calories at that massive of a surplus?
Yes
Got any sort of studies that show the body can only absorb a certain amount of calories? I mean, our digestive systems don't stop digesting a couple of hours after eating and food stays in our bodies for several days breaking down different ways through the digestive tract, so it's not like there's a shut off.
I've read the studies, there are plenty and it's pretty common knowledge for anyone that's even been curious about overeating and how it effects your body.
There's also a guy on YouTube who eats MASSIVE amounts of food and does not gain fat the way you are saying he would. He'll eat 40,000/50,000/60,000 calories in a couple days and do a couple bike rides and lifting sessions. Even if he was burning 15,000 over the two days (which I'm sure he's not as he's a pretty small guy) he most definitely did not put on 10-13 pounds of fat.
So no studies you're going to share. I know there's a "theoretical" upper limit often stated as about 20,000 calories. Fat gains (just like fat loss) don't look linear and absorption rates vary through the entire digestive tract. The YouTuber is not remotely proof (it's the banana chick's boyfriend isn't it, they've been debunked multiple times).
ETA: The calories lost through urine and fecal matter (because the body does not use a small percent of the food) is already accounted for in the calorie labels.1 -
RAD_Fitness wrote: »RAD_Fitness wrote: »RAD_Fitness wrote: »RAD_Fitness wrote: »RAD_Fitness wrote: »
Going by the numbers if the OP hits the goal that's about what would happen. That's not even counting water, glycogen, and waste.
You said fat; glycogen, water and waste has nothing to do with anything.
OP will not put on 4 pounds of fat in 1 day with a 14,000 calorie surplus.
And how do you think can someone eat that large of a surplus and not store it as fat. Magic?
I'm not saying they would not put on some fat. Not 4 pounds like you've proposed they would.
How would they magically not store 14,000 extra calories? If we assume that the studies are still fairly accurate and 3,500 calories is a pound of fat then 14,000 extra calories would be 4 pounds. Where are the extra calories going if not to fat (ignoring thermic effect of food)? Are you assuming your body would just not digest and absorb all of the calories at that massive of a surplus?
Yes
Got any sort of studies that show the body can only absorb a certain amount of calories? I mean, our digestive systems don't stop digesting a couple of hours after eating and food stays in our bodies for several days breaking down different ways through the digestive tract, so it's not like there's a shut off.
I've read the studies, there are plenty and it's pretty common knowledge for anyone that's even been curious about overeating and how it effects your body.
There's also a guy on YouTube who eats MASSIVE amounts of food and does not gain fat the way you are saying he would. He'll eat 40,000/50,000/60,000 calories in a couple days and do a couple bike rides and lifting sessions. Even if he was burning 15,000 over the two days (which I'm sure he's not as he's a pretty small guy) he most definitely did not put on 10-13 pounds of fat.
So no studies you're going to share. I know there's a "theoretical" upper limit often stated as about 20,000 calories. Fat gains (just like fat loss) don't look linear and absorption rates vary through the entire digestive tract. The YouTuber is not remotely proof (it's the banana chick's boyfriend isn't it, they've been debunked multiple times).
ETA: The calories lost through urine and fecal matter (because the body does not use a small percent of the food) is already accounted for in the calorie labels.
I *think* PP is actually referencing Eric The Electric who is a cyclist and powerlifter who does excessive eating challenges (he's done up to 60k or so previously that I'm aware of) on his YouTube channel. He has a past with disordered eating (that he is honest about) that makes me wonder about his methods though
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JessicaMcB wrote: »RAD_Fitness wrote: »RAD_Fitness wrote: »RAD_Fitness wrote: »RAD_Fitness wrote: »RAD_Fitness wrote: »
Going by the numbers if the OP hits the goal that's about what would happen. That's not even counting water, glycogen, and waste.
You said fat; glycogen, water and waste has nothing to do with anything.
OP will not put on 4 pounds of fat in 1 day with a 14,000 calorie surplus.
And how do you think can someone eat that large of a surplus and not store it as fat. Magic?
I'm not saying they would not put on some fat. Not 4 pounds like you've proposed they would.
How would they magically not store 14,000 extra calories? If we assume that the studies are still fairly accurate and 3,500 calories is a pound of fat then 14,000 extra calories would be 4 pounds. Where are the extra calories going if not to fat (ignoring thermic effect of food)? Are you assuming your body would just not digest and absorb all of the calories at that massive of a surplus?
Yes
Got any sort of studies that show the body can only absorb a certain amount of calories? I mean, our digestive systems don't stop digesting a couple of hours after eating and food stays in our bodies for several days breaking down different ways through the digestive tract, so it's not like there's a shut off.
I've read the studies, there are plenty and it's pretty common knowledge for anyone that's even been curious about overeating and how it effects your body.
There's also a guy on YouTube who eats MASSIVE amounts of food and does not gain fat the way you are saying he would. He'll eat 40,000/50,000/60,000 calories in a couple days and do a couple bike rides and lifting sessions. Even if he was burning 15,000 over the two days (which I'm sure he's not as he's a pretty small guy) he most definitely did not put on 10-13 pounds of fat.
So no studies you're going to share. I know there's a "theoretical" upper limit often stated as about 20,000 calories. Fat gains (just like fat loss) don't look linear and absorption rates vary through the entire digestive tract. The YouTuber is not remotely proof (it's the banana chick's boyfriend isn't it, they've been debunked multiple times).
ETA: The calories lost through urine and fecal matter (because the body does not use a small percent of the food) is already accounted for in the calorie labels.
I *think* PP is actually referencing Eric The Electric who is a cyclist and powerlifter who does excessive eating challenges (he's done up to 60k or so previously that I'm aware of) on his YouTube channel. He has a past with disordered eating (that he is honest about) that makes me wonder about his methods though
That's a bit concerning. I know a few YouTubers who claim to eat massive amounts of food while not gaining, but then people close to them end up outing them for disordered behaviors such as extreme fasting, purging, and over exercising.0 -
Guys!! Calm down, its all for fun and all good. I'll be doing it for just fun, not a daily thing!1
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And for people wanting pics and updates of how it went. Be sure to check back on saturday, or sometime later in my youtube channel. (Wont promise there wont be puke tho0
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