Opinions on 1,300 calories of junk food vs healthy food!
ElleHeart22
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What's everyone's opinion here? I'm curious. A lot of people think quality doesn't matter as long as you create a deficit in your diet, others thing it really does matter. Tell me what you think!
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Opinion in what respect? Weight loss? Health? Satisfaction? Satiety?13
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I thnk it's not about opinions, but about understanding simple facts. For weight loss, only a sustained calorie deficit is what matters. For health, satiety and wellbeing, and thus adherence to calorie deficit, quality of diet matters.24
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In terms of weight loss, you'll lose the same amount. But for satiety and nutrition purposes, obviously eating nothing but "junk food" wouldn't be right. And those here who do eat those foods do so in moderation...we get our nutrients from whole foods but leave room for an occasional treat, dessert, etc.5
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What do you call junk food?
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If you mean by chips and cookies, you can lose weight by only eating 1300 calories of junk food, but the amount of food you'd be eating would be tiny compared to 1300 calories of lean protein, fruit, and vegetables. You'd probably go mad with hunger, feel like crap, and end up binging.12
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Personally I like a nice mix of "healthy" and "junk" as I assume most normal people do. I don't think anyone here is really eating 100% junk. It is just something people who like to argue and start trouble like to say happens.17
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Depends on many factors. What kind of junk food? What kind of healthy food? What else have you eaten during that day/week? What nutrients do you need? What do you feel like eating? Are you hungry, and if so would that choice of junk food satisfy you?
As you can see, it's not black or white. It's highly situational. You can compare diets but it's hard to compare isolated foods.6 -
Why does it have to be one or the other?
On these threads people often say that X number of calories of "junk" won't fill you up as well/be as satisfying as the same calories of "healthy" food. I actually find the opposite, if I eat "junk" (and who on earth knows what that really means, really) it often keeps me satisfied for far longer.6 -
Why does it have to be all 'junk' or all 'healthy'? Who eats like that in real life?!10
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TavistockToad wrote: »Why does it have to be all 'junk' or all 'healthy'? Who eats like that in real life?!
I think what he is asking is in terms of weight loss are caories the only thing that matters0 -
A calorie is a calorie is a calorie. A unit of measurement is uniform.
Do nutrition and food choices matter for health and adherence? Obviously.
Ignoring the silly one or the other strawman of all "junk" (vague) or all "healthy foods" (also vague) - the entirety of your overall diet matters, individual components need to be put in context of that overall diet.4 -
Calorie per calorie all foods are equal for weight loss. The problem with "junk" food is that people are more likely to overeat.3
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I have never seen someone claim quality doesnt matter. Its usually moderation.
Why do we have to go from one e tremw to the other?3 -
A calorie is a calorie is a calorie. A unit of measurement is uniform.
Do nutrition and food choices matter for health and adherence? Obviously.
Ignoring the silly one or the other strawman of all "junk" (vague) or all "healthy foods" (also vague) - the entirety of your overall diet matters, individual components need to be put in context of that overall diet.
This.
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TimothyFish wrote: »Calorie per calorie all foods are equal for weight loss. The problem with "junk" food is that people are more likely to overeat.
I don't know about this, I can easily eat less calories of Fritos than I can of raw nuts. Throw in some dried fruit wirh the nuts and I hit 400+ calories easy vs 1 serving of chips that make me feel satisfied.6 -
TimothyFish wrote: »Calorie per calorie all foods are equal for weight loss. The problem with "junk" food is that people are more likely to overeat.
Speak for yourself.3 -
TavistockToad wrote: »Why does it have to be all 'junk' or all 'healthy'? Who eats like that in real life?!
I always wonder this, too. Why does 'eat what you want' always have to equate to someone eating twinkies, beer, and chips all day? I guess eating a salad and a twinkie in the same day is forbidden!3 -
For weight loss- doesn't matter if the 1,300 calories are from butter on cardboard or kale.
For health and satisfaction- if you eat 1,300 calories of low nutrition food daily you are probably going to see negative health effects as well as having trouble sticking to that 1,300 calories for long.
If your goal is improved health you will want to eat more nutrient dense foods. Eating only one kind of food is not very sustainable or healthy long term.
Kale is a nutritious food. Eating only kale though is not a sustainable plan that meets all of your nutritional needs so it would be a poor diet.
Best diet plan is have a reasonable calorie deficit, get enough protein, fats and fiber as well as other nutrients from a variety of foods you enjoy over the course of the day/week. Keep low nutrient food portions as a smaller part of your diet if your calorie goal is not huge.2 -
I feel like this is a trap...
It would be great if OP could clarify the question - matters for what?2 -
Using the word "junk" adds a moral judgement that may not be helpful. The common belief is that foods that convert quickly into blood sugar should be avoided except right after you exercise (to recover muscle energy storage that's been lost). At any other time, it is helpful to consume foods that make you feel full, emotionally satisfied and keep your blood sugar levels as constant as possible. It seems to work for me.
http://www.mensfitness.com/nutrition/sugar-what-kinds-eat-and-when
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I'd rather 1300 healthy for several reasons. 1) eating crap makes me feel like crap. That was the majority reason for me to change my diet. Sugar just gives me headaches. 2) lifestyle change, if I continue to eat crap to lose weight , what will happen when I'm not motivated to count calories? So I am working on changing food choices and behaviors in hopes to not have to lose this weight again. 3) Setting example s for my kids. My parents let us drink diet Cokes and eat pizza rolls, etc. I had to learn how to eat on my own as I got older. I want my kids to know how to drink water and eat healthy food.5
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I'd rather 1300 healthy for several reasons. 1) eating crap makes me feel like crap. That was the majority reason for me to change my diet. Sugar just gives me headaches. 2) lifestyle change, if I continue to eat crap to lose weight , what will happen when I'm not motivated to count calories? So I am working on changing food choices and behaviors in hopes to not have to lose this weight again. 3) Setting example s for my kids. My parents let us drink diet Cokes and eat pizza rolls, etc. I had to learn how to eat on my own as I got older. I want my kids to know how to drink water and eat healthy food.
Eating crap sounds nasty.2 -
1,300 calories of junk food vs healthy food
What's everyone's opinion here? I'm curious. A lot of people think quality doesn't matter as long as you create a deficit in your diet, others thing it really does matter. Tell me what you think!
First, 1300 cal is pretty low, unless you're rather short, or post-menopausal, or medically supervised.
Second, for weight loss all that matters is that calories in are less than calories out.
Third, for good health it matters a lot that those calories come from a wide variety of foods, with most of them being what would be considered 'healthy' (not excessive fat, sugar, sodium, has nutrients).
Fourth, getting 1300 cal from healthy foods is going to give you a lot more to eat, make you more satisfied for longer, compared to 1300 cal from junk foods.
To go to extremes...
1300 cal of strawberries is 9 pounds / 144 ounces
1387 cal of carrots is 5 pounds / 80 ounces
1317 cal of boiled lentils is 2.5 pounds / 40 ounces
1268 cal of baked chicken breast is 26 ounces
1250 cal of large eggs is 15 eggs
1309 cal of olive oil is 11 tablespoons
1333 cal of Oreos is 25 cookies
1300 cal of Twinkies is 10 Twinkies
Which is going to provide the most nutrition, and which is going to keep you feeling un-hungry the longest?
Can someone even eat 9 lb of strawberries in a day?!
The high-fat, high-sugar, low-fiber, low-nutrition options (junk food) are quick to eat, will leave you wanting more, and don't give the body what it needs to maintain itself.3 -
ElleHeart22 wrote: »What's everyone's opinion here? I'm curious. A lot of people think quality doesn't matter as long as you create a deficit in your diet, others thing it really does matter. Tell me what you think!
Matters for what?
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A nice balance for me
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I'd rather 1300 healthy for several reasons. 1) eating crap makes me feel like crap. That was the majority reason for me to change my diet. Sugar just gives me headaches. 2) lifestyle change, if I continue to eat crap to lose weight , what will happen when I'm not motivated to count calories? So I am working on changing food choices and behaviors in hopes to not have to lose this weight again. 3) Setting example s for my kids. My parents let us drink diet Cokes and eat pizza rolls, etc. I had to learn how to eat on my own as I got older. I want my kids to know how to drink water and eat healthy food.
You can gain weight by eating 'healthy' food, just like you can gain weight eating 'junk' food. As I posted above-things like (healthy) nuts are very calorie dense and it's very easy for me to rack up the calories on them vs something like chips. There's all sorts of foods that people consider healthy, that are calorie bombs.1 -
It matters for health.
Realistically, no one (well, almost no one) is going to eat 1300 calories of so called junk food or 1300 calories of only the most nutrient dense food, it's going to be a mix. With low cals (like 1300), probably better to have less of the lower nutrient stuff and be more careful about adding in foods that will cover nutrient needs, but there's still room for some lower nutrient things you love, whatever that may be. My calories are higher, but even when they were quite low I did eat a nutrient-rich diet but added in some cheese, some added oils, some higher cal meats (not just the leanest ones always), so on, which I mention just because sometimes there's this weird box that foods get put in, either good or bad, and really it's all a mix. (I also sometimes have dessert items.)1 -
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ElleHeart22 wrote: »What's everyone's opinion here? I'm curious. A lot of people think quality doesn't matter as long as you create a deficit in your diet, others thing it really does matter. Tell me what you think!
It's basic math. Yesterday, and my diary is open, I consumed all my snacks other than the egg prior to noon. Afternoon, I did all my exercise and drank all my water. I had over 3000 calories consumed, which is double my daily goal. I exercised enough to burn away every single excess calorie I ate, and drank enough water to stay well hydrated and promote the discharge of all the excess sodium I had consumed recently. Today's weight was 2.4 lb less than yesterday's. That isn't due to the exercise. Rather, to the water. The exercise only neutralized the excess of calories for the day.1
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