does coffee count

keith_w61
keith_w61 Posts: 20 Member
Does coffee for your water intake? :smile:
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  • stefjc
    stefjc Posts: 484 Member
    Yes. Any liquid or wet food does.

    And don't let anyone sell you any 'coffee dehydrate you' tut!
  • Personally I dont although I do count tea.

    That said I would suggest getting at least 2 -3 litres a day espically (sp?) now during the summer and with any exercise routine!
  • HacheraTsarine
    HacheraTsarine Posts: 278 Member
    Read this : http://www.discovergoodnutrition.com/2012/09/plain-water-get-your-8-glasses-a-day/

    it confirms what was said above and will give you more information about it.
  • pushyourself14
    pushyourself14 Posts: 275 Member
    I only log water for water intake.
  • Hezzietiger1
    Hezzietiger1 Posts: 1,256 Member
    I count it!
  • Well sure. Anything you eat with water in it counts, and that's about everything.

    Coffee and tea are also diuretics as well. Diuretics cause you to excrete more water as well. So if you drank coffee and tea exclusively you would need to intake more water to counteract the diuretic effects. For every coffee you consume, you require 2 extra glasses of water to compensate.

    Soup or any other salty food count as water as well, but their high sodium count, again causes your body's water carrying capacity to rise, therefore you need more water to stay properly hydrated.

    Fruit on the other hand is probably the perfect source of dietary water, high in vitamins and minerals and low in sodium.

    In order to improve your diet and lose weight or tone, try to "Eat more water" so eating foods high in water content such as fruit and vegetables.

    I hope I could help.
  • tbgree00
    tbgree00 Posts: 25 Member
    Personally I don't count mine. When I drink water I feel refreshed afterward and I don't get that feeling with coffee. I think it's a personal preference as much as anything.
  • ScatteredThoughts
    ScatteredThoughts Posts: 3,562 Member

    Coffee and tea are also diuretics as well. Diuretics cause you to excrete more water as well. So if you drank coffee and tea exclusively you would need to intake more water to counteract the diuretic effects. For every coffee you consume, you require 2 extra glasses of water to compensate.

    Incorrect.

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/caffeinated-drinks/AN01661
  • thisismeraw
    thisismeraw Posts: 1,264 Member
    Coffee and tea are also diuretics as well. Diuretics cause you to excrete more water as well. So if you drank coffee and tea exclusively you would need to intake more water to counteract the diuretic effects. For every coffee you consume, you require 2 extra glasses of water to compensate.

    This part is incorrect... unless you are drinking a pot of coffee a day. A few cups of coffee or tea will not dehydrate you. You do not need to consume two extra glasses of water for every coffee you drink. Even at levels where the coffee or tea will start to dehydrate you, their hydrating effects are still higher than the amount they will dehydrate you.

    Count any drink (minus alcohol) as water. Log any calories that comes with it as well.
  • GoMizzou99
    GoMizzou99 Posts: 512 Member
    Which counts as water?
    ...cool clear pristine filtered water while munching on coffee beans ... or coffee?
    ...cool clear pristine filtered water while munching on gummy bears ... or soda?

    Before you let the debate that always follows on this topic confuse you, do what you think is best for you. Then you know it will be right.
  • stefjc
    stefjc Posts: 484 Member
    May I say it now?

    I told you so.


    Why do so many people still believe that? And post it without comment when previous posts ahve directly challenged the truth of it?
  • TheEffort
    TheEffort Posts: 1,028 Member
    I log my water as "water" to help me keep track of my hydration intake...other beverages I add to my daily calorie intake.

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  • Nimrod2010
    Nimrod2010 Posts: 33 Member
    When I drink my coffee it gets logged just as any other beverage. My water count is for water only. I wondered the same but realized that I don't log water with my breakfast, lunch & dinner so the fine people here must have wanted to keep the water separated for a reason. Since they track all of the nutrition and amounts, it would not be that much harder for them to track how much water was in your coffee to track & total.
  • Chrisplayer136
    Chrisplayer136 Posts: 196 Member
    Yes I count coffee as water intake
  • RebeccaHite
    RebeccaHite Posts: 187 Member
    NO IT IS NO LONGER WATER
  • SRB8710
    SRB8710 Posts: 90
    I always wondered this too but at the end of the day I log all my creamer and what I used for my coffee and only put water in the water log. I don't freak out too much if I only had 6 glasses that day if I know I had other stuff to drink. I agree that it is a personal decision and people log differently. As long as you log actual calories I say do what you want! :)
  • stefjc
    stefjc Posts: 484 Member
    I log my water as "water" to help me keep track of my hydration intake...other beverages I add to my daily calorie intake.

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    I get stuck between the two as all of my beverages are zero kcal. So I tend to log coffee and track my rooibus tea as water.

    I don't remember the logic behind that decision any more :)
  • ken_hogan
    ken_hogan Posts: 854 Member
    NO IT IS NO LONGER WATER


    How is it no longer water???
  • stefjc
    stefjc Posts: 484 Member
    NO IT IS NO LONGER WATER

    Huh? Is there an alchemist at work?
  • keith_w61
    keith_w61 Posts: 20 Member
    Thanks to all for your interesting replies. I knew that coffee was not really a diuertic, as I often drank nothing but coffee (it was joked at work that I should be hooked up to a coffee IV line:) ) and if it was then I should have died of dehydration years ago (unless beer counts as hydration). I was really just wondering what everyone else did.
  • SrJoben
    SrJoben Posts: 484 Member
    Does coffee for your water intake? :smile:

    Yes.

    There is a modern myth that only 'pure' water counts toward your 8 glasses a day.

    Ignoring the fact that 8 glasses a day is dubious and based on an offhand comment made by a dietician in about 1970, when such statements were originally made a large variety of beverages were explicitly included. Among them being coffee, tea, soft drinks, juice, milk and beer.

    Basically everyone having to drink eight 8 ounce glasses of water a day on top of everything else is a complete misunderstanding. The original point was about total fluid intake. The flavor of the fluid is not relevant.

    (Caffeine's diuretic effects are minimal (a) when you're habituated to it and (b) when the intake is moderate.)
  • ken_hogan
    ken_hogan Posts: 854 Member
    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/water/NU00283


    This mentions that all fluids count towards the daily total....(last line)
  • darrensurrey
    darrensurrey Posts: 3,942 Member
    During winter, I only drink green tea and coffee. We're talking about a 6 month period where I don't touch plain water. Do I suffer any symptoms of dehydration? No. As long as I am drinking every 50-70 minutes, I'm fine. If I am busy and have a 5 hour gap without drinking even green tea or strong coffee, I notice it the next day as my skin is dry.
  • besaro
    besaro Posts: 1,858 Member
    if you have to quibble over whether soup/coffee/soda is water, it would seem you are looking for a reason to not drink water. If you have survived dying this long without drinking plain water, then one would assume you are getting enough water to live. But, imo, drink a glass of water, it won't kill you.
  • keith_w61
    keith_w61 Posts: 20 Member
    Does coffee for your water intake? :smile:

    Yes.

    There is a modern myth that only 'pure' water counts toward your 8 glasses a day.

    Ignoring the fact that 8 glasses a day is dubious and based on an offhand comment made by a dietician in about 1970, when such statements were originally made a large variety of beverages were explicitly included. Among them being coffee, tea, soft drinks, juice, milk and beer.

    Basically everyone having to drink eight 8 ounce glasses of water a day on top of everything else is a complete misunderstanding. The original point was about total fluid intake. The flavor of the fluid is not relevant.

    (Caffeine's diuretic effects are minimal (a) when you're habituated to it and (b) when the intake is moderate.)

    I knew that the 8/day was dubious, there's never been an actual study about it - and what to desert dwellers do? They can't cart 4 litres of water per person when trecking across the desert!
  • stefjc
    stefjc Posts: 484 Member
    Hyponatreamia?

    Last year we had a student (elite sports bod) collapse due to drinking too much plain water. He hadn't taken an electrolyte drink out with him.

    Yes, I know. Doesn't happen often. But with the heatwave here in the UK it has been repeated a lot on the heatwave health information. Those who honestly believe only pure water hydrates are more prone to it.
  • keith_w61
    keith_w61 Posts: 20 Member
    I wasnt looking for a reason, I drink at least 1.5 litres of water a day as plain water, and book my coffees (tim hortons, medium, 2 milk) in the "foods" section. I was just wondering what others do.
  • Miss_Maree
    Miss_Maree Posts: 33
    Absolutely. It is water plus coffee beans. Therefore it is still water. Yes caffeine dehydrates you. So does salt and alcohol.... But you are consuming more water than caffeine in a couple cups of coffee so I think it is still doing more to hydrate you than dehydrate you...

    I'm sure there is some fancy math involved where after a certain amount of coffee it is no longer beneficial for hydration... But I'm not that clever. Lol

    I usually log coffee and tea and light juices to count towards my water. Soda, alcohol, or things high in sodium I don't count towards water.

    Everything in moderation seems to be the key though!
  • Seesawboomerang
    Seesawboomerang Posts: 296 Member
    I just count water. I only just manage the recommended minimum so other liquids are just a bonus to me. It's not amounting to gallons in my case, so no harm done.
  • jdm_taco
    jdm_taco Posts: 999 Member
    How can you possibly have problems drinking enough water?

    Just drink it...its easy