Rest time between heavy sets (bear with me please)

jemhh
jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
edited November 20 in Fitness and Exercise
This is such a basic question that I am half rolling my eyes at myself for asking it but here goes:

How long do you, personally, rest between heavy sets? I've read plenty about what kind of rest periods are "good" or "sufficient" but I am wondering what people actually find works for them.

I have always used a timer to limit my rest, mostly because I'm afraid I'll somehow get sidetracked and rest too long. Recently I have begun to wonder if I should allow myself longer rests for my main compound movement each day, specifically for squats.

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  • DancingMoosie
    DancingMoosie Posts: 8,619 Member
    I don't time my rest at all. I just walk around, catch my breath, and check off on my routine where I am in my sets so I don't lose count. When I feel ready, I go for another set. I haven't gotten sidetracked, it's just the weight room, not a whole lot of other things to catch my attention. I'm there for a reason and don't always have unlimited time, so I go and get it done.
  • Willbenchforcupcakes
    Willbenchforcupcakes Posts: 4,955 Member
    I don't really time rest. If I'm closing in on a meet and I know how many people are going to be in my flight, I will time my rests for my heavy work to about where I expect rests between attempts to be. Otherwise, it's just based on feeling recovered enough to do the next set.
  • Chef_Barbell
    Chef_Barbell Posts: 6,644 Member
    I do 3 minutes on leg day and 2ish minutes on other days. I usually rest 1.5 minutes for accessory lifts.
  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
    Really it's going to come down to your preferences and goals.

    Generally speaking, minimal rest is going to be good for better conditioning/endurance but you're not going to be able to go very heavy so it's not great for hypertrophy or strength.

    Resting a moderate amount of time (say 1-2 minutes) will be good for hypertrophy and will likely be enough rest for some good strength gains as well.

    Resting a long time between sets is leaning more towards pure strength. I typically rest at least 15 minutes before trying an AMRAP set or a 1RM attempt or something along those lines. I've gotten sidetracked and rested for 30-45 minutes before with no ill effects. The workout just takes forever at that point but I've gotten strong as hell doing this.

    At the end of the day I doubt it matters to a HUGE extent, at least until you are pushing the limits of what you are capable of.
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    edited July 2017
    SonyaCele wrote: »
    my rest time for heavy sets is about 1 or 2 games of candy crush, depending on how if feel. thats about 2-5 minutes. Take more time if you think you need more time

    This made me laugh :)

    I've been giving myself an ultimate max of 3 minutes and that's usually only before the final set. I usually start with 90 seconds and work up to 3 minutes. I'm wondering if I'd be better off with 3 minutes rather than working up to it.
    DopeItUp wrote: »
    Resting a long time between sets is leaning more towards pure strength. I typically rest at least 15 minutes before trying an AMRAP set or a 1RM attempt or something along those lines. I've gotten sidetracked and rested for 30-45 minutes before with no ill effects. The workout just takes forever at that point but I've gotten strong as hell doing this.

    See, this week I was trying to retest maxes because I want to go back to 531. I very "generously" gave myself four minutes before my last set. Ha.
  • Keladelphia
    Keladelphia Posts: 820 Member
    Unless my rest time is prescribed, (sometimes its specified in my programming for an intended stimulus) anything less than about 90% 1RM in the 1-3 rep range I time my rest for 90-120 seconds. Anything over 90% I go by feel with max effort attempts sometimes in the 5-7 minute range. For max efforts I like to give as much rest as possible without losing that "warm" feeling if that makes any sense.
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    edited July 2017
    For strength sets: I tend to rest 5 minutes between working sets, whatever I want/need for warm-ups, and 8-10 minutes for AMRAP sets.

    For main assistance work: usually about 3 minutes.

    For tertiary assistance work: 1-2 minutes, depending on if I'm supersetting or not. 1 minute between each individual superset lift - or isolations, 2 minutes if not supersetting and compound (such as rows or lats).

    That's pretty typical, and I'm fairly happy with how things have been going the last couple of months, since incorporating this structure.
  • SonyaCele
    SonyaCele Posts: 2,841 Member
    I don't really time rest. If I'm closing in on a meet and I know how many people are going to be in my flight, I will time my rests for my heavy work to about where I expect rests between attempts to be. Otherwise, it's just based on feeling recovered enough to do the next set.

    have you found that helps training with rest cycles as if it was meet day? i've wondered about this
  • CarlKRobbo
    CarlKRobbo Posts: 390 Member
    I take about 3-4 Minutes on heavy sets. 1-2 Mins on Assistance work
  • sgt1372
    sgt1372 Posts: 3,997 Member
    I rest 5 mins bet heavy sets and sometimes 10.
    Nothing wrong w/taking as much rest that you need to allow you to suceed.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    Depends on how I'm feeling and how heavy I'm going. Usually any where from 90 seconds to 3 minutes, but I have gone up to 5 minutes if it's feeling really grindy.
  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
    jemhh wrote: »
    SonyaCele wrote: »
    my rest time for heavy sets is about 1 or 2 games of candy crush, depending on how if feel. thats about 2-5 minutes. Take more time if you think you need more time

    This made me laugh :)

    I've been giving myself an ultimate max of 3 minutes and that's usually only before the final set. I usually start with 90 seconds and work up to 3 minutes. I'm wondering if I'd be better off with 3 minutes rather than working up to it.
    DopeItUp wrote: »
    Resting a long time between sets is leaning more towards pure strength. I typically rest at least 15 minutes before trying an AMRAP set or a 1RM attempt or something along those lines. I've gotten sidetracked and rested for 30-45 minutes before with no ill effects. The workout just takes forever at that point but I've gotten strong as hell doing this.

    See, this week I was trying to retest maxes because I want to go back to 531. I very "generously" gave myself four minutes before my last set. Ha.

    I mean, if you're able to lift the weight that you need to lift as you work your way up, then the amount of rest seems fine. But on that AMRAP or between your top sets, yeah I'd be willing to add some rest time. I've actually done a bit of experimentation to see how much rest helped my ultimate strength. I've found that 10-15 minutes of rest is optimal for max-effort performance. After 15 minutes I don't seem to gain anything other than boredom. Of course, this depends on the lift too, 1RM OHP is fine with 10 minutes but I'm not waiting a second less than 15 minutes for a 1RM deadlift.

    Of course there's plenty of other factors such as actual weight lifted. If I were a 1000lb deadlifter I'd probably want even more rest. And a woman can recover faster than a man. But still, for AMRAP sets? Lay down on the bench for a bit, don't rush it. Leaving pounds on the table sucks.
  • SonyaCele
    SonyaCele Posts: 2,841 Member
    DopeItUp wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    SonyaCele wrote: »
    my rest time for heavy sets is about 1 or 2 games of candy crush, depending on how if feel. thats about 2-5 minutes. Take more time if you think you need more time

    This made me laugh :)

    I've been giving myself an ultimate max of 3 minutes and that's usually only before the final set. I usually start with 90 seconds and work up to 3 minutes. I'm wondering if I'd be better off with 3 minutes rather than working up to it.
    DopeItUp wrote: »
    Resting a long time between sets is leaning more towards pure strength. I typically rest at least 15 minutes before trying an AMRAP set or a 1RM attempt or something along those lines. I've gotten sidetracked and rested for 30-45 minutes before with no ill effects. The workout just takes forever at that point but I've gotten strong as hell doing this.

    See, this week I was trying to retest maxes because I want to go back to 531. I very "generously" gave myself four minutes before my last set. Ha.

    I mean, if you're able to lift the weight that you need to lift as you work your way up, then the amount of rest seems fine. But on that AMRAP or between your top sets, yeah I'd be willing to add some rest time. I've actually done a bit of experimentation to see how much rest helped my ultimate strength. I've found that 10-15 minutes of rest is optimal for max-effort performance. After 15 minutes I don't seem to gain anything other than boredom. Of course, this depends on the lift too, 1RM OHP is fine with 10 minutes but I'm not waiting a second less than 15 minutes for a 1RM deadlift.

    Of course there's plenty of other factors such as actual weight lifted. If I were a 1000lb deadlifter I'd probably want even more rest. And a woman can recover faster than a man. But still, for AMRAP sets? Lay down on the bench for a bit, don't rush it. Leaving pounds on the table sucks.

    I will sometimes wait up to 15 minutes or more on 1rm day. i definitely do better with more rest for my 1rm days. Most of that time is just spent waiting for my turn on the bar (i lift with a team), waiting for my coach or spotter to come back around, there is lots of sitting and waiting . But i do appreciate that extra time and have my best lifts when i wait longer. On a normal workout heavy day when i'm just going through my lifts, i dont wanna wait 15 minutes or it would take me 3 hours to get through that lift.
  • piperdown44
    piperdown44 Posts: 958 Member
    3-5 mins on heavy sets. 60-120 seconds on accessory lifts.
    Funny, on leg day 3-5 mins never seems enough, on bench day it seems too long, lol.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    DopeItUp wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    SonyaCele wrote: »
    my rest time for heavy sets is about 1 or 2 games of candy crush, depending on how if feel. thats about 2-5 minutes. Take more time if you think you need more time

    This made me laugh :)

    I've been giving myself an ultimate max of 3 minutes and that's usually only before the final set. I usually start with 90 seconds and work up to 3 minutes. I'm wondering if I'd be better off with 3 minutes rather than working up to it.
    DopeItUp wrote: »
    Resting a long time between sets is leaning more towards pure strength. I typically rest at least 15 minutes before trying an AMRAP set or a 1RM attempt or something along those lines. I've gotten sidetracked and rested for 30-45 minutes before with no ill effects. The workout just takes forever at that point but I've gotten strong as hell doing this.

    See, this week I was trying to retest maxes because I want to go back to 531. I very "generously" gave myself four minutes before my last set. Ha.

    I mean, if you're able to lift the weight that you need to lift as you work your way up, then the amount of rest seems fine. But on that AMRAP or between your top sets, yeah I'd be willing to add some rest time. I've actually done a bit of experimentation to see how much rest helped my ultimate strength. I've found that 10-15 minutes of rest is optimal for max-effort performance. After 15 minutes I don't seem to gain anything other than boredom. Of course, this depends on the lift too, 1RM OHP is fine with 10 minutes but I'm not waiting a second less than 15 minutes for a 1RM deadlift.

    Of course there's plenty of other factors such as actual weight lifted. If I were a 1000lb deadlifter I'd probably want even more rest. And a woman can recover faster than a man. But still, for AMRAP sets? Lay down on the bench for a bit, don't rush it. Leaving pounds on the table sucks.

    Huh? I've never heard this before.
  • Chieflrg
    Chieflrg Posts: 9,097 Member
    It's goal dependant along with experience.

    I general, I use a internal clock in my head for powerlifting strength. I know when I'm ready to complete a heavy set without cooling off.

    When I'm gearing up for a meet and doing doubles/singles I try to keep it around 10 minutes or about the time in between lifts during a meet.
  • Chieflrg
    Chieflrg Posts: 9,097 Member
    edited July 2017
    DopeItUp wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    SonyaCele wrote: »
    my rest time for heavy sets is about 1 or 2 games of candy crush, depending on how if feel. thats about 2-5 minutes. Take more time if you think you need more time

    This made me laugh :)

    I've been giving myself an ultimate max of 3 minutes and that's usually only before the final set. I usually start with 90 seconds and work up to 3 minutes. I'm wondering if I'd be better off with 3 minutes rather than working up to it.
    DopeItUp wrote: »
    Resting a long time between sets is leaning more towards pure strength. I typically rest at least 15 minutes before trying an AMRAP set or a 1RM attempt or something along those lines. I've gotten sidetracked and rested for 30-45 minutes before with no ill effects. The workout just takes forever at that point but I've gotten strong as hell doing this.

    See, this week I was trying to retest maxes because I want to go back to 531. I very "generously" gave myself four minutes before my last set. Ha.

    I mean, if you're able to lift the weight that you need to lift as you work your way up, then the amount of rest seems fine. But on that AMRAP or between your top sets, yeah I'd be willing to add some rest time. I've actually done a bit of experimentation to see how much rest helped my ultimate strength. I've found that 10-15 minutes of rest is optimal for max-effort performance. After 15 minutes I don't seem to gain anything other than boredom. Of course, this depends on the lift too, 1RM OHP is fine with 10 minutes but I'm not waiting a second less than 15 minutes for a 1RM deadlift.

    Of course there's plenty of other factors such as actual weight lifted. If I were a 1000lb deadlifter I'd probably want even more rest. And a woman can recover faster than a man. But still, for AMRAP sets? Lay down on the bench for a bit, don't rush it. Leaving pounds on the table sucks.

    Huh? I've never heard this before.

    Very true. It's well documented through data. It has to do with females not using as much motor muscles as men, so even on a RPE 10 set, a female can come back and duplicate the set several times, when I male can't because we have more of our muscles motors involved. Therefore we males are spent or cannot recover as easily.

    Hence why the majority of the strongest elite female athletes have an extra chromosome simular to males. They have more muscle motors involved.
  • SonyaCele
    SonyaCele Posts: 2,841 Member
    DopeItUp wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    SonyaCele wrote: »
    my rest time for heavy sets is about 1 or 2 games of candy crush, depending on how if feel. thats about 2-5 minutes. Take more time if you think you need more time

    This made me laugh :)

    I've been giving myself an ultimate max of 3 minutes and that's usually only before the final set. I usually start with 90 seconds and work up to 3 minutes. I'm wondering if I'd be better off with 3 minutes rather than working up to it.
    DopeItUp wrote: »
    Resting a long time between sets is leaning more towards pure strength. I typically rest at least 15 minutes before trying an AMRAP set or a 1RM attempt or something along those lines. I've gotten sidetracked and rested for 30-45 minutes before with no ill effects. The workout just takes forever at that point but I've gotten strong as hell doing this.

    See, this week I was trying to retest maxes because I want to go back to 531. I very "generously" gave myself four minutes before my last set. Ha.

    I mean, if you're able to lift the weight that you need to lift as you work your way up, then the amount of rest seems fine. But on that AMRAP or between your top sets, yeah I'd be willing to add some rest time. I've actually done a bit of experimentation to see how much rest helped my ultimate strength. I've found that 10-15 minutes of rest is optimal for max-effort performance. After 15 minutes I don't seem to gain anything other than boredom. Of course, this depends on the lift too, 1RM OHP is fine with 10 minutes but I'm not waiting a second less than 15 minutes for a 1RM deadlift.

    Of course there's plenty of other factors such as actual weight lifted. If I were a 1000lb deadlifter I'd probably want even more rest. And a woman can recover faster than a man. But still, for AMRAP sets? Lay down on the bench for a bit, don't rush it. Leaving pounds on the table sucks.

    Huh? I've never heard this before.

    i never heard this before either lol
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    About 3 minutes in-between heavy squats and deadlifts, about 1.5 to 2 minutes for almost every other heavy lift. For accessories it's sometimes 45 seconds or so.

    i don't really "time" them, but i do look at my watch before and after i perform a lift out of curiosity and that's when i naturally feel good to keep on chuckin.
  • x_desertcolt_x
    x_desertcolt_x Posts: 253 Member
    up to 3 minutes for the heavy *kitten*! 60-90 for 15+ rep sets
  • Ironandwine69
    Ironandwine69 Posts: 2,432 Member
    I use Jefit app and it times the rest time for you. I usually rest between 1-3 mins depending on how heavy I'm lifting
  • Okiludy
    Okiludy Posts: 558 Member
    3-5 on heavy lifts also. Somedays it's too long and I cut it back but never to less than around 2min. Other days it isn't enough but I still don't wait longer than 5.

    I try to time it where I can hit my rep range 3-6. Today on bench it was 6/4/3 and I likely rushed. I feel if I would have given it about 1-2min more I could have done 6/5/4 at a minimum. I noticed I was rushing and slowed down and hit my reps on all other sets for day.

    I feel each person is going to be different and even then it might be different on how they feel for that day.
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    Thanks for all of the feedback, folks. I'm going to go ahead and start with 3 minute rests starting with the first working sets at this point. For squats, that is. I seem to be okay on bench, OHP, and deadlift. And when I really think about it I have been resting slightly longer for deadlifts anyway. I'm definitely okay rest-wise on other lifts. I am forever struggling with squats and allowing myself longer rests is something very basic that I haven't really put to the test.
  • fitnessjustin01
    fitnessjustin01 Posts: 239 Member
    edited July 2017
    I don't time myself but it's usually a quick turnaround.. 2 - 2.5 minutes I would guess
  • dbkyser
    dbkyser Posts: 612 Member
    I use a timer, and for squats its 2-3 everything else its 2.
  • Willbenchforcupcakes
    Willbenchforcupcakes Posts: 4,955 Member
    Chieflrg wrote: »
    DopeItUp wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    SonyaCele wrote: »
    my rest time for heavy sets is about 1 or 2 games of candy crush, depending on how if feel. thats about 2-5 minutes. Take more time if you think you need more time

    This made me laugh :)

    I've been giving myself an ultimate max of 3 minutes and that's usually only before the final set. I usually start with 90 seconds and work up to 3 minutes. I'm wondering if I'd be better off with 3 minutes rather than working up to it.
    DopeItUp wrote: »
    Resting a long time between sets is leaning more towards pure strength. I typically rest at least 15 minutes before trying an AMRAP set or a 1RM attempt or something along those lines. I've gotten sidetracked and rested for 30-45 minutes before with no ill effects. The workout just takes forever at that point but I've gotten strong as hell doing this.

    See, this week I was trying to retest maxes because I want to go back to 531. I very "generously" gave myself four minutes before my last set. Ha.

    I mean, if you're able to lift the weight that you need to lift as you work your way up, then the amount of rest seems fine. But on that AMRAP or between your top sets, yeah I'd be willing to add some rest time. I've actually done a bit of experimentation to see how much rest helped my ultimate strength. I've found that 10-15 minutes of rest is optimal for max-effort performance. After 15 minutes I don't seem to gain anything other than boredom. Of course, this depends on the lift too, 1RM OHP is fine with 10 minutes but I'm not waiting a second less than 15 minutes for a 1RM deadlift.

    Of course there's plenty of other factors such as actual weight lifted. If I were a 1000lb deadlifter I'd probably want even more rest. And a woman can recover faster than a man. But still, for AMRAP sets? Lay down on the bench for a bit, don't rush it. Leaving pounds on the table sucks.

    Huh? I've never heard this before.

    Very true. It's well documented through data. It has to do with females not using as much motor muscles as men, so even on a RPE 10 set, a female can come back and duplicate the set several times, when I male can't because we have more of our muscles motors involved. Therefore we males are spent or cannot recover as easily.

    Hence why the majority of the strongest elite female athletes have an extra chromosome simular to males. They have more muscle motors involved.

    I'd have to agree with this. And the data we are starting to collect with the gymaware system backs it what body feel tells me. I'm able to hit solid consistent max rep sets on 6-7 minutes rest.
  • ijsantos2005
    ijsantos2005 Posts: 306 Member
    Chieflrg wrote: »
    DopeItUp wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    SonyaCele wrote: »
    my rest time for heavy sets is about 1 or 2 games of candy crush, depending on how if feel. thats about 2-5 minutes. Take more time if you think you need more time

    This made me laugh :)

    I've been giving myself an ultimate max of 3 minutes and that's usually only before the final set. I usually start with 90 seconds and work up to 3 minutes. I'm wondering if I'd be better off with 3 minutes rather than working up to it.
    DopeItUp wrote: »
    Resting a long time between sets is leaning more towards pure strength. I typically rest at least 15 minutes before trying an AMRAP set or a 1RM attempt or something along those lines. I've gotten sidetracked and rested for 30-45 minutes before with no ill effects. The workout just takes forever at that point but I've gotten strong as hell doing this.

    See, this week I was trying to retest maxes because I want to go back to 531. I very "generously" gave myself four minutes before my last set. Ha.

    I mean, if you're able to lift the weight that you need to lift as you work your way up, then the amount of rest seems fine. But on that AMRAP or between your top sets, yeah I'd be willing to add some rest time. I've actually done a bit of experimentation to see how much rest helped my ultimate strength. I've found that 10-15 minutes of rest is optimal for max-effort performance. After 15 minutes I don't seem to gain anything other than boredom. Of course, this depends on the lift too, 1RM OHP is fine with 10 minutes but I'm not waiting a second less than 15 minutes for a 1RM deadlift.

    Of course there's plenty of other factors such as actual weight lifted. If I were a 1000lb deadlifter I'd probably want even more rest. And a woman can recover faster than a man. But still, for AMRAP sets? Lay down on the bench for a bit, don't rush it. Leaving pounds on the table sucks.

    Huh? I've never heard this before.

    Very true. It's well documented through data. It has to do with females not using as much motor muscles as men, so even on a RPE 10 set, a female can come back and duplicate the set several times, when I male can't because we have more of our muscles motors involved. Therefore we males are spent or cannot recover as easily.

    Hence why the majority of the strongest elite female athletes have an extra chromosome simular to males. They have more muscle motors involved.

    Truth based on what I've read.
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