Blurry vision, nausea, headaches, nutrition.
nickhennessey
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Hi there,
I'm really keen to hear what people might think is going on for me.
I've been using MfP for two years, steadily losing weight, and lowering my intake from 2600 to 1800 over that time. In that time I took up running more seriously, and began fell running last autumn. On two occasions in December and January, both about 48 hours after a big run, I almost passed out. Then I occurred to me that 1800 calories is a BMR for my height and size, and I was only averaging around 1600. So I upped my intake, quite a lot at first (my weight went up to about 15.5 stone) , and have since (over the last three months) lowered it to about 2100.
However, since January my vision has been blurry, my general energy levels have dropped substantially and I get regular headaches and nausea and dizziness. My GP can find nothing amiss, they've tried labyrinthitis as a diagnosis but the ENT specialist can't find evidence. I'm awaiting a head scan. All blood tests come back fine.
My acupuncturist has suggested that my stomach/spleen energy is very weak, so has recommended eating
little and often. This has helped a little in the last few days, particularly with the headaches, nausea and blurry vision. But that has confirmed (a little at least) that the issue is dietary. But what did I do to myself last year that could have thrown my body so completely out of whack?
I have occasional runs now, no more than 3 miles, and whilst being a bit slow to start there is energy there once I get going, but the day after and (today) 2 days after the headache, blurry vision and nausea return, and eating doesn't really help.
Any thoughts? I'd really appreciate any advice.
I'm 6'2" male, and weigh about 14.5 stone.
Thanks ever so.
I'm really keen to hear what people might think is going on for me.
I've been using MfP for two years, steadily losing weight, and lowering my intake from 2600 to 1800 over that time. In that time I took up running more seriously, and began fell running last autumn. On two occasions in December and January, both about 48 hours after a big run, I almost passed out. Then I occurred to me that 1800 calories is a BMR for my height and size, and I was only averaging around 1600. So I upped my intake, quite a lot at first (my weight went up to about 15.5 stone) , and have since (over the last three months) lowered it to about 2100.
However, since January my vision has been blurry, my general energy levels have dropped substantially and I get regular headaches and nausea and dizziness. My GP can find nothing amiss, they've tried labyrinthitis as a diagnosis but the ENT specialist can't find evidence. I'm awaiting a head scan. All blood tests come back fine.
My acupuncturist has suggested that my stomach/spleen energy is very weak, so has recommended eating
little and often. This has helped a little in the last few days, particularly with the headaches, nausea and blurry vision. But that has confirmed (a little at least) that the issue is dietary. But what did I do to myself last year that could have thrown my body so completely out of whack?
I have occasional runs now, no more than 3 miles, and whilst being a bit slow to start there is energy there once I get going, but the day after and (today) 2 days after the headache, blurry vision and nausea return, and eating doesn't really help.
Any thoughts? I'd really appreciate any advice.
I'm 6'2" male, and weigh about 14.5 stone.
Thanks ever so.
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No, only non fasting.
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nickhennessey wrote: »My acupuncturist has suggested that my stomach/spleen energy is very weak, so has recommended eating
little and often.
Woo. By the way, what are you seeing your acupuncturist for?nickhennessey wrote: »But what did I do to myself last year that could have thrown my body so completely out of whack?
Highly unlikely.nickhennessey wrote: »My GP can find nothing amiss, they've tried labyrinthitis as a diagnosis but the ENT specialist can't find evidence. I'm awaiting a head scan. All blood tests come back fine.
I would recommend that you follow your GP/ENT specialists advice only.
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nickhennessey wrote: »No, only non fasting.
So you haven't been tested for diabetes?1 -
I guess not, if that has to be done under a fast. Can't think why the GP didn't suggest the fasting test though.1
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StealthHealth wrote: »nickhennessey wrote: »My acupuncturist has suggested that my stomach/spleen energy is very weak, so has recommended eating
little and often.
Woo. By the way, what are you seeing your acupuncturist for?
Because I was getting nowhere with the GP.
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If you're working out hard, you may not be fueling yourself efficiently.
Are you eating back your calories?2 -
nickhennessey wrote: »No, only non fasting.
So you haven't been tested for diabetes?
Wouldn't this have shown up on non-fasting blood tests?0 -
Normally, I'd suggest seeing a doctor... You've already done it.
Do you have a home BP checker. IF not, I'd suggest making the investment and monitoring your BP when the symptoms manifest... 2-5 times daily. I'd ditch the woo doctor (acupuncturist) and ask for a referral to a Rheumatologist to look at possible autoimmune markers/symptoms3 -
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Find another doctor. This problem needs to be addressed. Barring all other options- run until you experience symptoms, then have a friend drive you to the ER.4
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Is that acupuncturist giving you any supplements that could be doing this? Are you taking anything like ginko, ginseng, herbal teas, any strange supplements? Surprised your doctor did not test you for type 2 diabetes fasting. He must have had a reason.2
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TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »Is that acupuncturist giving you any supplements that could be doing this? Are you taking anything like ginko, ginseng, herbal teas, any strange supplements? Surprised your doctor did not test you for type 2 diabetes fasting. He must have had a reason.
The Doctor was a locum back then, in January, and wanted to talk a lot during my consultation about under funding to the NHS, so it wouldn't surprise me if he over-looked it. But subsequent GPs haven't picked up on it, and I've had 4 different ones since then.
I was taking zinc and folic acid, but have stopped since. The acupuncturist as not been giving me any supplements.0 -
stanmann571 wrote: »Normally, I'd suggest seeing a doctor... You've already done it.
Do you have a home BP checker. IF not, I'd suggest making the investment and monitoring your BP when the symptoms manifest... 2-5 times daily. I'd ditch the woo doctor (acupuncturist) and ask for a referral to a Rheumatologist to look at possible autoimmune markers/symptoms
BP has been normal on the visits to GPs. But maybe I'll buy one.
Autoimmune markers is a good call, thanks.0 -
nickhennessey wrote: »TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »Is that acupuncturist giving you any supplements that could be doing this? Are you taking anything like ginko, ginseng, herbal teas, any strange supplements? Surprised your doctor did not test you for type 2 diabetes fasting. He must have had a reason.
The Doctor was a locum back then, in January, and wanted to talk a lot during my consultation about under funding to the NHS, so it wouldn't surprise me if he over-looked it. But subsequent GPs haven't picked up on it, and I've had 4 different ones since then.
Have you asked them to test you for diabetes?
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Although it really sounds like you need a fasting type 2 test.
From Google:
Signs of too much zinc include nausea, vomiting, loss of appetite, stomach cramps, diarrhea, and headaches.
(I'm not sure why people don't just take multivitamin)
Stores like CVS or walgreens have blood pressure machines in case the cost of a cuff is too high for you. If they don't have a machine, they will have a cuff, but you have to ask.1 -
TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »Although it really sounds like you need a fasting type 2 test.
From Google:
Signs of too much zinc include nausea, vomiting, loss of appetite, stomach cramps, diarrhea, and headaches.
A simple blood test would show vitamin and mineral levels ... but who knows if he has been sent for that.0 -
TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »Although it really sounds like you need a fasting type 2 test.
From Google:
Signs of too much zinc include nausea, vomiting, loss of appetite, stomach cramps, diarrhea, and headaches.
(I'm not sure why people don't just take multivitamin)
Yes, I saw that too. I stopped it all about 10 days ago.0 -
nickhennessey wrote: »TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »Is that acupuncturist giving you any supplements that could be doing this? Are you taking anything like ginko, ginseng, herbal teas, any strange supplements? Surprised your doctor did not test you for type 2 diabetes fasting. He must have had a reason.
The Doctor was a locum back then, in January, and wanted to talk a lot during my consultation about under funding to the NHS, so it wouldn't surprise me if he over-looked it. But subsequent GPs haven't picked up on it, and I've had 4 different ones since then.
Have you asked them to test you for diabetes?
Well I can see from my test results that they did a random glucose check, and that came in as normal. Do you suggest I ask for a fasting check?0 -
In the US, a test for vitamin and mineral deficiencies could cost thousands. Insurance only pays if it's absolutely necessary. And insurance companies tend to be stingy with this.0
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nickhennessey wrote: »StealthHealth wrote: »nickhennessey wrote: »My acupuncturist has suggested that my stomach/spleen energy is very weak, so has recommended eating
little and often.
Woo. By the way, what are you seeing your acupuncturist for?
Because I was getting nowhere with the GP.
Acupuncture is, in my opinion, pseudoscience and has no clinical benefit over placebo (except for pain management where I think there are studies that show benefit) but is certainly not a diagnostic tool.0 -
TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »In the US, a test for vitamin and mineral deficiencies could cost thousands. Insurance only pays if it's absolutely necessary. And insurance companies tend to be stingy with this.
I can imagine. I've just booked a fasting blood test.2 -
nickhennessey wrote: »nickhennessey wrote: »TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »Is that acupuncturist giving you any supplements that could be doing this? Are you taking anything like ginko, ginseng, herbal teas, any strange supplements? Surprised your doctor did not test you for type 2 diabetes fasting. He must have had a reason.
The Doctor was a locum back then, in January, and wanted to talk a lot during my consultation about under funding to the NHS, so it wouldn't surprise me if he over-looked it. But subsequent GPs haven't picked up on it, and I've had 4 different ones since then.
Have you asked them to test you for diabetes?
Well I can see from my test results that they did a random glucose check, and that came in as normal. Do you suggest I ask for a fasting check?
I am diabetic and your symptoms sound closer to what I get if my blood sugar goes too low. A fasting blood test can indicate low glucose. Often it is done at the same time as other fasting blood tests like a metabolic panel or lipid panel. I doubt if that is you issue but ti doesn't hurt to rule it out.TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »In the US, a test for vitamin and mineral deficiencies could cost thousands. Insurance only pays if it's absolutely necessary. And insurance companies tend to be stingy with this.
I have never run into any push-back from my insurance company. Using things like metabolic panels and other tests for deficiencies is one of the best and cheapest diagnostic tools doctors have and, if being used either to determine a diagnosis or as follow-up if a deficiency is noted, Insurance covers without a squawk.3 -
StealthHealth wrote: »nickhennessey wrote: »StealthHealth wrote: »nickhennessey wrote: »My acupuncturist has suggested that my stomach/spleen energy is very weak, so has recommended eating
little and often.
Woo. By the way, what are you seeing your acupuncturist for?
Because I was getting nowhere with the GP.
Acupuncture is, in my opinion, pseudoscience and has no clinical benefit over placebo (except for pain management where I think there are studies that show benefit) but is certainly not a diagnostic tool.
Just like Chiropractic. They frequently get outside their lane and start making rediculus(!sp!) claims.
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For what it's worth, my acupuncturist hasn't made any ridiculous claims about my health.2
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Have you had your blood pressure measured? As you lose weight your blood pressure can go down. Try to ask your doctor to do a reactive hypoglycemia test. This looks like a blood sugar, blood pressure, or electrolyte issue. Blurry vision smells of blood pressure issues, either chronically low or sudden changes to it. Do you feel lightheaded and get tunnel vision when you change your position suddenly, like from sitting to standing or from lying down to standing? It's more common in women, but POTS is something to look into if the symptoms fit. Some of those who have it get persistent symptoms and can be misdiagnosed with chronic fatigue. You said you were a runner, do you sweat a lot? Do you make up for that with supplemental electrolytes? Are you eating enough carbs? And if not, are you making up for that with increased salt intake? This can be anything... I would continue working with your doctor until you find out the culprit.2
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StealthHealth wrote: »nickhennessey wrote: »StealthHealth wrote: »nickhennessey wrote: »My acupuncturist has suggested that my stomach/spleen energy is very weak, so has recommended eating
little and often.
Woo. By the way, what are you seeing your acupuncturist for?
Because I was getting nowhere with the GP.
Acupuncture is, in my opinion, pseudoscience and has no clinical benefit over placebo (except for pain management where I think there are studies that show benefit) but is certainly not a diagnostic tool.
Fair enough.0 -
nickhennessey wrote: »My acupuncturist has suggested that my stomach/spleen energy is very weak, so has recommended eating little and often. This has helped a little in the last few days, particularly with the headaches, nausea and blurry vision. But that has confirmed (a little at least) that the issue is dietary. But what did I do to myself last year that could have thrown my body so completely out of whack?nickhennessey wrote: »For what it's worth, my acupuncturist hasn't made any ridiculous claims about my health.
I'd disagree. "Stomach/spleen energy" isn't a real thing.
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When it comes to vitamin tests, the trick is to let the doctor ask for them. If the doctor writes down that you requested them and the doctor does not see them as necessary, you are screwed.1
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stanmann571 wrote: »nickhennessey wrote: »My acupuncturist has suggested that my stomach/spleen energy is very weak, so has recommended eating little and often. This has helped a little in the last few days, particularly with the headaches, nausea and blurry vision. But that has confirmed (a little at least) that the issue is dietary. But what did I do to myself last year that could have thrown my body so completely out of whack?nickhennessey wrote: »For what it's worth, my acupuncturist hasn't made any ridiculous claims about my health.
I'd disagree. "Stomach/spleen energy" isn't a real thing.
Whatevs. Not really interested in a debate about it right now.2
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