Far below TDEE .. Not losing weight
daquix
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28 years old.
6 foot tall.
436 pounds.
Everything I eat is weighed with a food scale, down to the gram (except for pre-packaged, 1 serving foods).
Most TDEE calculators I've found have estimated me between 3,500 to 5,000 calculators per day TDEE.
For the past 7 days I have averaged 1,568 calories per day. For the past 14 days, I have averaged 1,355 calories per day.
That is 2,000 to 3,500 calories below TDEE.
Yet after losing my first 20 pounds, I haven't lost since.
Any ideas? Thoughts?
6 foot tall.
436 pounds.
Everything I eat is weighed with a food scale, down to the gram (except for pre-packaged, 1 serving foods).
Most TDEE calculators I've found have estimated me between 3,500 to 5,000 calculators per day TDEE.
For the past 7 days I have averaged 1,568 calories per day. For the past 14 days, I have averaged 1,355 calories per day.
That is 2,000 to 3,500 calories below TDEE.
Yet after losing my first 20 pounds, I haven't lost since.
Any ideas? Thoughts?
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Are you adding any physical activity to the mix? Exercise? You're not eating enough, at that height and your current weight you should be eating more. You're already weighing your food which is good, but be sure to weigh the pre-packaged stuff as well they can be off up to 50% of their labeled weight. Just make sure you aren't missing something, soda, sugary drinks in general, condiments (salad dressing is a big offender), oils that you use to cook with, etc. Otherwise it may just take time, 7 days isn't enough time to judge anything, if you are retaining water you may be losing weight without it showing on the scale. If you're still stuck a month from now then I'd worry that there was something off, but 7 days is not really a plateau. Even waste, water weight, etc. can cause your weight to stay the same in that period of time.6
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28 years old.
6 foot tall.
436 pounds.
Everything I eat is weighed with a food scale, down to the gram (except for pre-packaged, 1 serving foods).
Most TDEE calculators I've found have estimated me between 3,500 to 5,000 calculators per day TDEE.
For the past 7 days I have averaged 1,568 calories per day. For the past 14 days, I have averaged 1,355 calories per day.
That is 2,000 to 3,500 calories below TDEE.
Yet after losing my first 20 pounds, I haven't lost since.
Any ideas? Thoughts?
At what rate was the first 20 lbs? a month, a week,2 -
How long is "since"?
There are many times in weight loss when there will be no losses for a while. It's totally normal. Get your calories back up to 1500-1600. Try to eat mostly lean protein, vegetables, oils/fats and whole grains. Keep doing the next right thing and it will work.
Patience, grasshopper.2 -
How long has it been since you've lost weight?1
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janejellyroll wrote: »How long has it been since you've lost weight?
A week.0 -
cmriverside wrote: »How long is "since"?
There are many times in weight loss when there will be no losses for a while. It's totally normal. Get your calories back up to 1500-1600. Try to eat mostly lean protein, vegetables, oils/fats and whole grains. Keep doing the next right thing and it will work.
Patience, grasshopper.
Why does it matter what you eat?
A calorie is a calorie, right?4 -
stanmann571 wrote: »28 years old.
6 foot tall.
436 pounds.
Everything I eat is weighed with a food scale, down to the gram (except for pre-packaged, 1 serving foods).
Most TDEE calculators I've found have estimated me between 3,500 to 5,000 calculators per day TDEE.
For the past 7 days I have averaged 1,568 calories per day. For the past 14 days, I have averaged 1,355 calories per day.
That is 2,000 to 3,500 calories below TDEE.
Yet after losing my first 20 pounds, I haven't lost since.
Any ideas? Thoughts?
At what rate was the first 20 lbs? a month, a week,
Two weeks.
And a week since.
I just don't understand what my body is doing with that burned energy that is not turning into weight loss?
I mean, this physics right?
If I am eating less than I am burning, how is it possible NOT to lose weight?1 -
janejellyroll wrote: »How long has it been since you've lost weight?
A week.
Too early to worry. As you lose weight, there will be weeks when you don't lose anything even when you do everything "right." Keep on plan, be patient.11 -
stanmann571 wrote: »28 years old.
6 foot tall.
436 pounds.
Everything I eat is weighed with a food scale, down to the gram (except for pre-packaged, 1 serving foods).
Most TDEE calculators I've found have estimated me between 3,500 to 5,000 calculators per day TDEE.
For the past 7 days I have averaged 1,568 calories per day. For the past 14 days, I have averaged 1,355 calories per day.
That is 2,000 to 3,500 calories below TDEE.
Yet after losing my first 20 pounds, I haven't lost since.
Any ideas? Thoughts?
At what rate was the first 20 lbs? a month, a week,
Two weeks.
And a week since.
I just don't understand what my body is doing with that burned energy that is not turning into weight loss?
I mean, this physics right?
If I am eating less than I am burning, how is it possible NOT to lose weight?
Because our bodies aren't perfectly calibrated machines. People have hormones that may cause them to retain water sometimes, we don't always eliminate waste on a perfect schedule, our muscles will retain water if we work them hard, things like heat and sodium consumption can lead to temporary water retention. Everyone will lose weight in a deficit, but it won't always be on a perfect schedule or happen immediately because of all the "noise" associated with keeping our bodies running.14 -
so 20 lbs in 3 weeks that is an average of almost 7 lbs a week (or an average daily deficit of 3500), some of the initial loss was probably water that you gained back in the third week which is masking your "real" loss this week.
You will have to keep in mind that weight loss is not linear and that you will not be able to sustain a daily deficit of 3500 cals for long. I would suggest a deficit of 1000 to 1500/ day given how much you have to lose (1500/day would be an average of 3lb/week loss)11 -
cmriverside wrote: »How long is "since"?
There are many times in weight loss when there will be no losses for a while. It's totally normal. Get your calories back up to 1500-1600. Try to eat mostly lean protein, vegetables, oils/fats and whole grains. Keep doing the next right thing and it will work.
Patience, grasshopper.
Why does it matter what you eat?
A calorie is a calorie, right?
A calorie is a calorie, yes. But it's pretty hard to stick to low calorie and get proper nutrition - that was the point of my post. 1500 calories for a man is the absolute rock-bottom and it's important to be on-point with nutrition to avoid any further health complications, protein being the most important.4 -
stanmann571 wrote: »28 years old.
6 foot tall.
436 pounds.
Everything I eat is weighed with a food scale, down to the gram (except for pre-packaged, 1 serving foods).
Most TDEE calculators I've found have estimated me between 3,500 to 5,000 calculators per day TDEE.
For the past 7 days I have averaged 1,568 calories per day. For the past 14 days, I have averaged 1,355 calories per day.
That is 2,000 to 3,500 calories below TDEE.
Yet after losing my first 20 pounds, I haven't lost since.
Any ideas? Thoughts?
At what rate was the first 20 lbs? a month, a week,
Two weeks.
And a week since.
I just don't understand what my body is doing with that burned energy that is not turning into weight loss?
I mean, this physics right?
If I am eating less than I am burning, how is it possible NOT to lose weight?
Can we all chime in with the weightloss is not linear line yet again? Cos it isn't. You need to be reading some Lyle McDonald...plus water retention plays havoc with the scale. Suddenly you will register quite a few pounds weight loss after this plateau mark my words....
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/not-losing-fat-at-20-deficit-what-should-i-do-qa.html
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/of-whooshes-and-squishy-fat.html/
Plus I would lessen that gaping deficit. 20lbs in two weeks and then no loss, no wonder! You could be eating 500 more calories and still lose at a steady rate...there are more really good reads on that website I linked...take a gander...1 -
It doesn't matter what you eat for fat loss... what matters is calorie deficit. However what you eat can have an influence on your weight on the short term, so if this week you have eaten food that has more salt, or alcohol or anything that causes your body to retain more water, it may have masked your weight loss.
Also, to lose 20 pounds of fat in 14 days you would need a 5000 calorie deficit a day, which clearly isn't the case.
So what I think happened: the first two weeks you lost a lot of weight, which included fat, water weight and "waste" weight. That third week your weight stayed the same: you were eating at a deficit so you lost fat, but for whatever reason you gained some water weight that masked the fat loss. Have patience and check your weight next week. At any rate don't expect to lose 10 pounds a week.
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Some of that first 20 pounds may have been water weight which you have retained more of as your body readjusts you will have lost fat this week but put some of that water back on, as the poster above says 20 pounds over 21 days is nearly 3500 calorie deficit a day which is the very top end of your TDEE based on your intake, you shouldn't expect to lose more than that. Remember that water weight both exaggerates and masks loss but will even out and maybe slow a bit after a month. Good luck and well done on the loss so far.3
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Please consider this post:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10569458/why-eating-too-little-calories-is-a-bad-idea/p1
A week of no weight loss is normal. While a larger person can support a rate of loss of more than 2 lbs a week, you are severely, and unnecessarily, undereating. Please reconsider.
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stanmann571 wrote: »28 years old.
6 foot tall.
436 pounds.
Everything I eat is weighed with a food scale, down to the gram (except for pre-packaged, 1 serving foods).
Most TDEE calculators I've found have estimated me between 3,500 to 5,000 calculators per day TDEE.
For the past 7 days I have averaged 1,568 calories per day. For the past 14 days, I have averaged 1,355 calories per day.
That is 2,000 to 3,500 calories below TDEE.
Yet after losing my first 20 pounds, I haven't lost since.
Any ideas? Thoughts?
At what rate was the first 20 lbs? a month, a week,
Two weeks.
And a week since.
I just don't understand what my body is doing with that burned energy that is not turning into weight loss?
I mean, this physics right?
If I am eating less than I am burning, how is it possible NOT to lose weight?so 20 lbs in 3 weeks that is an average of almost 7 lbs a week (or an average daily deficit of 3500), some of the initial loss was probably water that you gained back in the third week which is masking your "real" loss this week.
You will have to keep in mind that weight loss is not linear and that you will not be able to sustain a daily deficit of 3500 cals for long. I would suggest a deficit of 1000 to 1500/ day given how much you have to lose (1500/day would be an average of 3lb/week loss)
If you expect to continue losing at a rate of 10 pounds per week you're going to be disappointed, and if you succeed you're going to be very unhealthy along the way.
Fat losses can be nearly linear while "weight loss is never linear"
Water fluctuations due to activity or salts or protein can cause weight to go up, down, or sideways. With 200+ lbs to go, you've got some slack and flex as far as how quickly you come out of the gate, but remember it's a long haul and you're going to need to sustain it, and probably at some point 6 or 8 months down the line take a break to let your hormones reset.6 -
Please consider this post:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10569458/why-eating-too-little-calories-is-a-bad-idea/p1
A week of no weight loss is normal. While a larger person can support a rate of loss of more than 2 lbs a week, you are severely, and unnecessarily, undereating. Please reconsider.
I disagree with "severely, and unnecessarily, undereating." He is over 400 pounds. That is life threatening. The thread about "eating too little calories" - that doesn't really apply to someone who is this much over-weight.
Context.11 -
cmriverside wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »How long is "since"?
There are many times in weight loss when there will be no losses for a while. It's totally normal. Get your calories back up to 1500-1600. Try to eat mostly lean protein, vegetables, oils/fats and whole grains. Keep doing the next right thing and it will work.
Patience, grasshopper.
Why does it matter what you eat?
A calorie is a calorie, right?
A calorie is a calorie, yes. But it's pretty hard to stick to low calorie and get proper nutrition - that was the point of my post. 1500 calories for a man is the absolute rock-bottom and it's important to be on-point with nutrition to avoid any further health complications, protein being the most important.
Gotcha.
Just making sure I understood.0 -
stanmann571 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »28 years old.
6 foot tall.
436 pounds.
Everything I eat is weighed with a food scale, down to the gram (except for pre-packaged, 1 serving foods).
Most TDEE calculators I've found have estimated me between 3,500 to 5,000 calculators per day TDEE.
For the past 7 days I have averaged 1,568 calories per day. For the past 14 days, I have averaged 1,355 calories per day.
That is 2,000 to 3,500 calories below TDEE.
Yet after losing my first 20 pounds, I haven't lost since.
Any ideas? Thoughts?
At what rate was the first 20 lbs? a month, a week,
Two weeks.
And a week since.
I just don't understand what my body is doing with that burned energy that is not turning into weight loss?
I mean, this physics right?
If I am eating less than I am burning, how is it possible NOT to lose weight?so 20 lbs in 3 weeks that is an average of almost 7 lbs a week (or an average daily deficit of 3500), some of the initial loss was probably water that you gained back in the third week which is masking your "real" loss this week.
You will have to keep in mind that weight loss is not linear and that you will not be able to sustain a daily deficit of 3500 cals for long. I would suggest a deficit of 1000 to 1500/ day given how much you have to lose (1500/day would be an average of 3lb/week loss)
If you expect to continue losing at a rate of 10 pounds per week you're going to be disappointed, and if you succeed you're going to be very unhealthy along the way.
Fat losses can be nearly linear while "weight loss is never linear"
Water fluctuations due to activity or salts or protein can cause weight to go up, down, or sideways. With 200+ lbs to go, you've got some slack and flex as far as how quickly you come out of the gate, but remember it's a long haul and you're going to need to sustain it, and probably at some point 6 or 8 months down the line take a break to let your hormones reset.
Definitely don't expect 10 pounds per week.
But when I am 24,000 calories BELOW tdee, I would expect *something*. A pound maybe?
ya know?1 -
nexangelus wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »28 years old.
6 foot tall.
436 pounds.
Everything I eat is weighed with a food scale, down to the gram (except for pre-packaged, 1 serving foods).
Most TDEE calculators I've found have estimated me between 3,500 to 5,000 calculators per day TDEE.
For the past 7 days I have averaged 1,568 calories per day. For the past 14 days, I have averaged 1,355 calories per day.
That is 2,000 to 3,500 calories below TDEE.
Yet after losing my first 20 pounds, I haven't lost since.
Any ideas? Thoughts?
At what rate was the first 20 lbs? a month, a week,
Two weeks.
And a week since.
I just don't understand what my body is doing with that burned energy that is not turning into weight loss?
I mean, this physics right?
If I am eating less than I am burning, how is it possible NOT to lose weight?
Can we all chime in with the weightloss is not linear line yet again? Cos it isn't. You need to be reading some Lyle McDonald...plus water retention plays havoc with the scale. Suddenly you will register quite a few pounds weight loss after this plateau mark my words....
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/not-losing-fat-at-20-deficit-what-should-i-do-qa.html
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/of-whooshes-and-squishy-fat.html/
Plus I would lessen that gaping deficit. 20lbs in two weeks and then no loss, no wonder! You could be eating 500 more calories and still lose at a steady rate...there are more really good reads on that website I linked...take a gander...
I recently started reading Lyle!
Great blog he has.
One of his posts he actually says that super obese people should NOT see as much of a stall as their thinner counterparts. Thats part of the reason why I became worried.0
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