Pcos and shakeology

elphie754

GemstoneofHeart wrote: »

I cannot believe some of you are telling someone fast food and processed food is just fine and cico is all that matters.

Yes CICO is what makes you lose weight. It is NOT what makes you healthy.

Just because you are thin does not mean you are healthy.

OP, you need to talk to a nutritionist. Let them tell you what you need to eat. I guarantee fast foods and processed food will not be on that list.

Actually a dietician would be the person to see, anyone can call themselves a nutritionist.

GemstoneofHeart wrote: »

Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »

GemstoneofHeart wrote: »

JaydedMiss wrote: »

GemstoneofHeart wrote: »

elphie754 wrote: »

GemstoneofHeart wrote: »

Just eat real,whole foods. Eat fruits, veggies, whole grains, and stay away from frozen, processed, or fast food meals. That's all you need to lose weight and get your body back in check.
I used to have very irregular periods and have a lot of similarities to PCOS however I was never diagnosed. Losing weight and eating right "cured" most of those issues.

Btw, shakeology would be considered a processed food. There is no health benefit and no one has lasting results from those awful, expensive MLM items.

So much wrong with that one sentence. To lose weight all you need is calorie deficit. Granted whole foods may keep you full longer, it is not required to lose weight.

Losing weight will not cure PCOS. It is a hormone imbalance that many women need to take medication for. Advising someone that losing weight is all they need can be harmful since people can interpret it as they no longer need their medication.

No reason to stay away from processed foods.

If you are fighting hormone imbalance, you absolutely must eat nutritionally sound foods. Have you ever read any studies on hormone issues and processed foods? Have you ever suffered from it and then seen the benefit of eating whole? I seriously can't believe you just said "no reason to stay away from processed foods". What kind of advice is that when someone has a health issue?

Also I agree I should have been more specific, that sentence that you put in bold was erroneous; I was more zoned in on the hormone issues. Obviously you need a calorie deficit.

I have pcos and still dont agree with you im with @elphie754 on this one...specifically the "frozen, processed or fast food" If it exists in a store its likely highly processed, even fruits and veg. Nothing at all wrong with fast food. And frozen veggies for example are often times more nutritious thn the fresh ones. Giving useless umbrella advice to the OP to needlessly complicate things is just unnecessary.

Even if i werent to be so technical, I have PCOS and lost 105 pounds in 14 months and i ate all of these things. Plus chocolate. and desserts. and all of the pizza. Yummy.

CICO is king

In what world are fresh fruits and veggies processed? Seriously? You must be trolling, right?

Do you eat frozen fruit or vegetables? Canned anything? Condiments? Bread? Or do you grind your own wheat to make flour?

Or do you make everything from scratch?

She's not trolling, I really liked her reply. I awesomed it.

I didn't feel the need to define processed. I am talking about boxed meals, frozen entree meals, and anything that comes from a restaurant with a car window or a gas station. Not frozen veggies, people. Come on!

Except frozen veggies ARE processed.

Process (definition from dictionary): perform a series of mechanical or chemical operations on (something) in order to change or preserve it.

kshama2001

GemstoneofHeart wrote: »

Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »

GemstoneofHeart wrote: »

JaydedMiss wrote: »

GemstoneofHeart wrote: »

elphie754 wrote: »

GemstoneofHeart wrote: »

Just eat real,whole foods. Eat fruits, veggies, whole grains, and stay away from frozen, processed, or fast food meals. That's all you need to lose weight and get your body back in check.
I used to have very irregular periods and have a lot of similarities to PCOS however I was never diagnosed. Losing weight and eating right "cured" most of those issues.

Btw, shakeology would be considered a processed food. There is no health benefit and no one has lasting results from those awful, expensive MLM items.

So much wrong with that one sentence. To lose weight all you need is calorie deficit. Granted whole foods may keep you full longer, it is not required to lose weight.

Losing weight will not cure PCOS. It is a hormone imbalance that many women need to take medication for. Advising someone that losing weight is all they need can be harmful since people can interpret it as they no longer need their medication.

No reason to stay away from processed foods.

If you are fighting hormone imbalance, you absolutely must eat nutritionally sound foods. Have you ever read any studies on hormone issues and processed foods? Have you ever suffered from it and then seen the benefit of eating whole? I seriously can't believe you just said "no reason to stay away from processed foods". What kind of advice is that when someone has a health issue?

Also I agree I should have been more specific, that sentence that you put in bold was erroneous; I was more zoned in on the hormone issues. Obviously you need a calorie deficit.

I have pcos and still dont agree with you im with @elphie754 on this one...specifically the "frozen, processed or fast food" If it exists in a store its likely highly processed, even fruits and veg. Nothing at all wrong with fast food. And frozen veggies for example are often times more nutritious thn the fresh ones. Giving useless umbrella advice to the OP to needlessly complicate things is just unnecessary.

Even if i werent to be so technical, I have PCOS and lost 105 pounds in 14 months and i ate all of these things. Plus chocolate. and desserts. and all of the pizza. Yummy.

CICO is king

In what world are fresh fruits and veggies processed? Seriously? You must be trolling, right?

Do you eat frozen fruit or vegetables? Canned anything? Condiments? Bread? Or do you grind your own wheat to make flour?

Or do you make everything from scratch?

She's not trolling, I really liked her reply. I awesomed it.

I didn't feel the need to define processed. I am talking about boxed meals, frozen entree meals, and anything that comes from a restaurant with a car window or a gas station. Not frozen veggies, people. Come on!

Here on MFP a different definition of "processed" is used than what everyone I know offsite uses. But since technically frozen vegetables ARE processed, here on MFP I use "Ultra Processed" and link to the Brazilian definition, which breaks out "processed" into:

1. Natural/minimally processed
2. Processed
3. Ultra processed

L1zardQueen

GemstoneofHeart wrote: »

Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »

GemstoneofHeart wrote: »

JaydedMiss wrote: »

GemstoneofHeart wrote: »

elphie754 wrote: »

GemstoneofHeart wrote: »

Just eat real,whole foods. Eat fruits, veggies, whole grains, and stay away from frozen, processed, or fast food meals. That's all you need to lose weight and get your body back in check.
I used to have very irregular periods and have a lot of similarities to PCOS however I was never diagnosed. Losing weight and eating right "cured" most of those issues.

Btw, shakeology would be considered a processed food. There is no health benefit and no one has lasting results from those awful, expensive MLM items.

So much wrong with that one sentence. To lose weight all you need is calorie deficit. Granted whole foods may keep you full longer, it is not required to lose weight.

Losing weight will not cure PCOS. It is a hormone imbalance that many women need to take medication for. Advising someone that losing weight is all they need can be harmful since people can interpret it as they no longer need their medication.

No reason to stay away from processed foods.

If you are fighting hormone imbalance, you absolutely must eat nutritionally sound foods. Have you ever read any studies on hormone issues and processed foods? Have you ever suffered from it and then seen the benefit of eating whole? I seriously can't believe you just said "no reason to stay away from processed foods". What kind of advice is that when someone has a health issue?

Also I agree I should have been more specific, that sentence that you put in bold was erroneous; I was more zoned in on the hormone issues. Obviously you need a calorie deficit.

I have pcos and still dont agree with you im with @elphie754 on this one...specifically the "frozen, processed or fast food" If it exists in a store its likely highly processed, even fruits and veg. Nothing at all wrong with fast food. And frozen veggies for example are often times more nutritious thn the fresh ones. Giving useless umbrella advice to the OP to needlessly complicate things is just unnecessary.

Even if i werent to be so technical, I have PCOS and lost 105 pounds in 14 months and i ate all of these things. Plus chocolate. and desserts. and all of the pizza. Yummy.

CICO is king

In what world are fresh fruits and veggies processed? Seriously? You must be trolling, right?

Do you eat frozen fruit or vegetables? Canned anything? Condiments? Bread? Or do you grind your own wheat to make flour?

Or do you make everything from scratch?

She's not trolling, I really liked her reply. I awesomed it.

I didn't feel the need to define processed. I am talking about boxed meals, frozen entree meals, and anything that comes from a restaurant with a car window or a gas station. Not frozen veggies, people. Come on!

But you should. I love Krafts Mac n Cheese or frozen plain cheese pizza, add some vegetables with chicken and, boom, it is a satisfying meal. Pasta is "ultra processed" and add some fish with vegetables, boom, another wholesome meal. There is absolutely nothing wrong pizza, your stomach does not care. Pizza hits all the macros

amyinthetardis1231

Fast food and even "ultra processed" food are fine in moderation. If you can't moderate because self-control is an issue, then abstinence might be the better route. But demonizing any particular kind of food is not helpful.

OP, I have PCOS with IR as well as hypothyroid. I find it easier to eat at a deficit when I keep my carbs lower, fats higher, and protein moderate. Not all, but many women find low carb to be helpful for losing weight. Some of your symptoms may improve at a lower weight, but again--not all. I had awful symptoms when I was thin (and I was very healthy at a lighter weight, since thin =/= healthy has been brought up). I have been advised by more than one doctor, specialist, and RD to try low carb, and when I was ready to, I did. I've never had one recommend Shakeology, "clean eating" above all else, or any other special diet/supplement.

usmcmp

GemstoneofHeart wrote: »

Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »

GemstoneofHeart wrote: »

JaydedMiss wrote: »

GemstoneofHeart wrote: »

elphie754 wrote: »

GemstoneofHeart wrote: »

Just eat real,whole foods. Eat fruits, veggies, whole grains, and stay away from frozen, processed, or fast food meals. That's all you need to lose weight and get your body back in check.
I used to have very irregular periods and have a lot of similarities to PCOS however I was never diagnosed. Losing weight and eating right "cured" most of those issues.

Btw, shakeology would be considered a processed food. There is no health benefit and no one has lasting results from those awful, expensive MLM items.

So much wrong with that one sentence. To lose weight all you need is calorie deficit. Granted whole foods may keep you full longer, it is not required to lose weight.

Losing weight will not cure PCOS. It is a hormone imbalance that many women need to take medication for. Advising someone that losing weight is all they need can be harmful since people can interpret it as they no longer need their medication.

No reason to stay away from processed foods.

If you are fighting hormone imbalance, you absolutely must eat nutritionally sound foods. Have you ever read any studies on hormone issues and processed foods? Have you ever suffered from it and then seen the benefit of eating whole? I seriously can't believe you just said "no reason to stay away from processed foods". What kind of advice is that when someone has a health issue?

Also I agree I should have been more specific, that sentence that you put in bold was erroneous; I was more zoned in on the hormone issues. Obviously you need a calorie deficit.

I have pcos and still dont agree with you im with @elphie754 on this one...specifically the "frozen, processed or fast food" If it exists in a store its likely highly processed, even fruits and veg. Nothing at all wrong with fast food. And frozen veggies for example are often times more nutritious thn the fresh ones. Giving useless umbrella advice to the OP to needlessly complicate things is just unnecessary.

Even if i werent to be so technical, I have PCOS and lost 105 pounds in 14 months and i ate all of these things. Plus chocolate. and desserts. and all of the pizza. Yummy.

CICO is king

In what world are fresh fruits and veggies processed? Seriously? You must be trolling, right?

Do you eat frozen fruit or vegetables? Canned anything? Condiments? Bread? Or do you grind your own wheat to make flour?

Or do you make everything from scratch?

She's not trolling, I really liked her reply. I awesomed it.

I didn't feel the need to define processed. I am talking about boxed meals, frozen entree meals, and anything that comes from a restaurant with a car window or a gas station. Not frozen veggies, people. Come on!

Yep, all frozen entree meals are horrible and should never be eaten.




Seriously though, if I had to eat by your definition I would be stuck being fat forever. It's just not sustainable for many people. Rather than placing guilt on foods by giving them a negative label I like to encourage people to find a balance between nutritionally dense foods and things they just enjoy eating. Even during competition prep I have candy and cheesecake because the overall balance of my diet contributes to health, plus tomorrow is never guaranteed so I'm going to enjoy the days I do get.