Anyone else doing internment fasting?
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BelAug2010 wrote: »Ok if I have coffee does that mean I'm not fasting? I stop eating at 7-8 pm then I skip breakfast and have lunch after 1. But I have coffee about 8am so I think it's not fasting because of the coffee. What do you think?
Do you add anything with calories to the coffee? Plain coffee fits with IF, but really and truthfully, the point of choosing WHEN to eat is so that you are keeping yourself from eating all day long. Coffee will not matter.
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Alatariel75 wrote: »chrissymoore06 wrote: »Thats awsome! I also feel better. Now if I try to eat a big meal i feel sluggish. My goal is to work up to the 16 hour. I have more energry and eat less. Im glad others are having good progress with this.
Doesn't narrowing your eating window mean that your meals have to be bigger, in order to hit your calories in the smaller time period?chrissymoore06 wrote: »I've just herd so many conflicting ideas about it. Im glad that others support it. It seem like everyone is different and react different to it. I dont think anyone should just jump into a 16 hour fast. Ive been trying to do it slowly.
I don't deliberately fast but quite often do a 16 hour window without eating, it's only having dinner at 8 then skipping breakfast. I'm not a breakfast eater and that would be my preferred way of eating if I didn't have to take meds with food every 12 hours.
my meals arent any bigger than if I ate normally. the fasting just helps me to not over eat. I read a article that says if you IF then your body will digest better and puts you on a schedule that your only hungry during your eating window. It can also help burn a few extra calories. Also your body will turn to your fat stores if needed in the fasting period. It helps you to not be bloated either.
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GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »I skip breakfast. Is this what you mean?
Same here.
Aaaaand same here. There is not weight loss benefit to IF. I can help you manage calories though.
How is there no benefit? That doesnt add up.
Why would there be a benefit?3 -
I've been doing roughly 16:8 for about 3 1/2 weeks now. I find the benefit of a shorter eating window being the ability to eat to satiation a couple of times in the day along with snacking. So although I don't eat any more or less calories, it's easier for me to stick to budget.
I do, however, get a little hungry mid-morning, about 2 hours before my window starts. A single cup of coffee will usually tide me over.
I am not too worried about the potentially dubious claims about its fat burning benefits (mostly because if there are any, it's not likely as significant as my deficit, and I'm not looking for that last sinew of muscle fiber to show - actually still looking for that first muscle fiber to show...
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You mean that you've stopped eating between meals? Or are you eating the same number of meals just in shorter intervals?chrissymoore06 wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »chrissymoore06 wrote: »Thats awsome! I also feel better. Now if I try to eat a big meal i feel sluggish. My goal is to work up to the 16 hour. I have more energry and eat less. Im glad others are having good progress with this.
Doesn't narrowing your eating window mean that your meals have to be bigger, in order to hit your calories in the smaller time period?chrissymoore06 wrote: »I've just herd so many conflicting ideas about it. Im glad that others support it. It seem like everyone is different and react different to it. I dont think anyone should just jump into a 16 hour fast. Ive been trying to do it slowly.
I don't deliberately fast but quite often do a 16 hour window without eating, it's only having dinner at 8 then skipping breakfast. I'm not a breakfast eater and that would be my preferred way of eating if I didn't have to take meds with food every 12 hours.
my meals arent any bigger than if I ate normally. the fasting just helps me to not over eat.
Digestion has nothing to do with this. What does "digest better" even mean?I read a article that says if you IF then your body will digest better and puts you on a schedule that your only hungry during your eating window.
Nothing can put you on a schedule except you. You may or may not get used to a new schedule, or you are already in a good schedule, or you ease into one without trying. Hunger may or may not be affected by your meal structure. In my opinion, fear of hunger is a much greater issue than hunger in our parts of the world.
IF does not burn extra calories. Nothing can "help" burn extra calories, something either bursn or doesn't burn calories. Your body burns calories 24/7. Some of it comes from fat stores, some from glycogen stores. That makes no differece for a dieter.It can also help burn a few extra calories. Also your body will turn to your fat stores if needed in the fasting period.
It may or may not, and bloating may be the new candida.It helps you to not be bloated either.5 -
Google IF to better see the health benefits. It take 8 hours to digest a meal fully after the 8 hour is over your body then turns your fat stores to fulfill its calorie need for things like regular function. It helps your blood sugar levels and you feel fuller quicker because of it. You still eat the same calories you normally nees but give your body a good break from having to constantly digest meals.10
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Its something thats not for everyone and is based on personal experience and how your body is. Im not claiming it to be a magic weight loss plan. For me it helps me feel better and thats whats important. 0
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chrissymoore06 wrote: »Google IF to better see the health benefits. It take 8 hours to digest a meal fully after the 8 hour is over your body then turns your fat stores to fulfill its calorie need for things like regular function. It helps your blood sugar levels and you feel fuller quicker because of it. You still eat the same calories you normally nees but give your body a good break from having to constantly digest meals.
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I researched IF before choosing to do this as well as consulting with my dr. I dont starve myself I just eat from 8 am to 6 pm then wait till 8 am the following day to eat again. My dr wouldnt support it otherwise. There are professional athletes that also do this. If your really interested and want to learn about it. Research it and dicuss it with your dr. And yes your body is always burning but can do it better if its not also trying to digest big meals. I am going on what my dr and research has taught me.5
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GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »I skip breakfast. Is this what you mean?
Same here.
Aaaaand same here. There is not weight loss benefit to IF. I can help you manage calories though.
How is there no benefit? That doesnt add up.
As I said, it can help you manage calories. But other than that, there is no inherent metabolic benefit for weight loss to IF. IF + calories greater than TDEE = weight gain. IF + calories lower than TDEE = weight loss. There is no magic fairy dust in doing IF.
So, what part doesn't add up for you?6 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »I skip breakfast. Is this what you mean?
Same here.
Aaaaand same here. There is not weight loss benefit to IF. I can help you manage calories though.
How is there no benefit? That doesnt add up.
As I said, it can help you manage calories. But other than that, there is no inherent metabolic benefit for weight loss to IF. IF + calories greater than TDEE = weight gain. IF + calories lower than TDEE = weight loss. There is no magic fairy dust in doing IF.
So, what part doesn't add up for you?GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »I skip breakfast. Is this what you mean?
Same here.
Aaaaand same here. There is not weight loss benefit to IF. I can help you manage calories though.
How is there no benefit? That doesnt add up.
As I said, it can help you manage calories. But other than that, there is no inherent metabolic benefit for weight loss to IF. IF + calories greater than TDEE = weight gain. IF + calories lower than TDEE = weight loss. There is no magic fairy dust in doing IF.
So, what part doesn't add up for you?
Thank you. That better sums it up. I have hypothyroidism and was having trouble with losing weight. I consulted witg my dr on fasting and he said the same. It help control calories while giving your body time to digest. Micheal phelps has alot of good ideas on this.2 -
The key to weight loss is amount of time in a fasted state. If you're not in a fasted state you're not burning fat. That is why IF helps. From what I understand it takes somewhere around 12 hours after your last intake of food.
I do a daily 23 hour fast and lose an average of 3 pounds per week, 160 in total.
In the past focusing only on calories and exercise I could never get past 20-30 pounds. It works in the short run but is not sustainable for most. There is ample evidence of that.
The other benefit to an IF plan like one-meal-per-day which is what I do, is that it's easy and liberating. No more obsession with calories. Clears your mind and frees up time and money. It changed my life.15 -
chrissymoore06 wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »I skip breakfast. Is this what you mean?
Same here.
Aaaaand same here. There is not weight loss benefit to IF. I can help you manage calories though.
How is there no benefit? That doesnt add up.
As I said, it can help you manage calories. But other than that, there is no inherent metabolic benefit for weight loss to IF. IF + calories greater than TDEE = weight gain. IF + calories lower than TDEE = weight loss. There is no magic fairy dust in doing IF.
So, what part doesn't add up for you?GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »I skip breakfast. Is this what you mean?
Same here.
Aaaaand same here. There is not weight loss benefit to IF. I can help you manage calories though.
How is there no benefit? That doesnt add up.
As I said, it can help you manage calories. But other than that, there is no inherent metabolic benefit for weight loss to IF. IF + calories greater than TDEE = weight gain. IF + calories lower than TDEE = weight loss. There is no magic fairy dust in doing IF.
So, what part doesn't add up for you?
Thank you. That better sums it up. I have hypothyroidism and was having trouble with losing weight. I consulted witg my dr on fasting and he said the same. It help control calories while giving your body time to digest. Micheal phelps has alot of good ideas on this.
Glad you found it helpful! For me, it delays the start of the hunger/satiety cycle. I can go till 2 in the afternoon without feeling hungry. But, when I start to eat, then I want to eat more frequently. So for me, it helps control calories.
Also, dinner is the time of day I get to spend quality time with my wife. I am a retired chef. So, the idea of preparing and enjoying a nice meal a glass and 3 of wine with dinner is my preference. IF helps me to do that and stay within my calorie targets.
I also see soooo many threads here about feeling hungry all the time and how hard dietary compliance can be. Again, for me, utilizing IF, I don't find that to be the case. I also tend to eat a good amount of protein and fats so the satiety factor is high. But I just don't feel like I'm restricting myself at all. My diary is open so folks can feel free to take a look and see what my days look like.5 -
The key to weight loss is amount of time in a fasted state. If you're not in a fasted state you're not burning fat. That is why IF helps. From what I understand it takes somewhere around 12 hours after your last intake of food.
I do a daily 23 hour fast and lose an average of 3 pounds per week, 160 in total.
In the past focusing only on calories and exercise I could never get past 20-30 pounds. It works in the short run but is not sustainable for most. There is ample evidence of that.
The other benefit to an IF plan like one-meal-per-day which is what I do, is that it's easy and liberating. No more obsession with calories. Clears your mind and frees up time and money. It changed my life.
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The key to weight loss is amount of time in a fasted state. If you're not in a fasted state you're not burning fat. That is why IF helps. From what I understand it takes somewhere around 12 hours after your last intake of food.
I do a daily 23 hour fast and lose an average of 3 pounds per week, 160 in total.
In the past focusing only on calories and exercise I could never get past 20-30 pounds. It works in the short run but is not sustainable for most. There is ample evidence of that.
The other benefit to an IF plan like one-meal-per-day which is what I do, is that it's easy and liberating. No more obsession with calories. Clears your mind and frees up time and money. It changed my life.
The key to weight loss is a calorie deficit. And unless you have 150 pounds to lose, you should not be losing 3 pounds a week.8 -
stevencloser wrote: »The key to weight loss is amount of time in a fasted state. If you're not in a fasted state you're not burning fat. That is why IF helps. From what I understand it takes somewhere around 12 hours after your last intake of food.
I do a daily 23 hour fast and lose an average of 3 pounds per week, 160 in total.
In the past focusing only on calories and exercise I could never get past 20-30 pounds. It works in the short run but is not sustainable for most. There is ample evidence of that.
The other benefit to an IF plan like one-meal-per-day which is what I do, is that it's easy and liberating. No more obsession with calories. Clears your mind and frees up time and money. It changed my life.
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And of course thisThe key to weight loss is a calorie deficit. And unless you have 150 pounds to lose, you should not be losing 3 pounds a week3 -
chrissymoore06 wrote: »I researched IF before choosing to do this as well as consulting with my dr. I dont starve myself I just eat from 8 am to 6 pm then wait till 8 am the following day to eat again. My dr wouldnt support it otherwise. There are professional athletes that also do this. If your really interested and want to learn about it. Research it and dicuss it with your dr. And yes your body is always burning but can do it better if its not also trying to digest big meals. I am going on what my dr and research has taught me.
8am to 6pm? Isn't that a normal eating window for most people who don't do IF?13 -
chrissymoore06 wrote: »This is my second day doing a 14 hour fast. I started with a 10 hour fast then 12 and now 14. Ive lost about 3 pounds in the past three weeks. Just wanted to know if anyone else is doing this and their progress and their thoughts on it.
You are probably eating at a very slight deficit reducing a couple of hours eating window. IF is not magic, it just keeps you eating a bit less. You can definitely over eat more than your maintenance or deficit calories and gain weight..2 -
chrissymoore06 wrote: »Google IF to better see the health benefits. It take 8 hours to digest a meal fully after the 8 hour is over your body then turns your fat stores to fulfill its calorie need for things like regular function. It helps your blood sugar levels and you feel fuller quicker because of it. You still eat the same calories you normally nees but give your body a good break from having to constantly digest meals.
Google is not a scientific resource. I recommend you do some research on Google scholar and focus on peer reviewed scientific data with controlled studies. They will show that there is no additional benefits to fasting over eating multiple meals all day as long as caloric intake is the same. Don't get me wrong, I've been fasting for years. IF has zero health benefits in humans. Weight loss is not a benefit of IF. IF is nothing more than a timing window that allows people to enjoy bigger meals while still adhering to their calorie goals. You must have a caloric deficit to lose weight. You don't lose any faster by waiting a handful of hours extra before eating. If you eat "normal" calories (maintenance) you will not lose weight. If you eat a surplus, you will gain weight. IF is not magic.7 -
I am going on what my dr told me for my health condition. Not just google.1
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chrissymoore06 wrote: »I researched IF before choosing to do this as well as consulting with my dr. I dont starve myself I just eat from 8 am to 6 pm then wait till 8 am the following day to eat again. My dr wouldnt support it otherwise. There are professional athletes that also do this. If your really interested and want to learn about it. Research it and dicuss it with your dr. And yes your body is always burning but can do it better if its not also trying to digest big meals. I am going on what my dr and research has taught me.
8am to 6pm? Isn't that a normal eating window for most people who don't do IF?
No some people have late night snacks and dinners.1 -
I never said i lost three pounds in a week. I said i lost three pounds in three weeks.0
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I gradually eased into fasting over a three week period.0
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chrissymoore06 wrote: »I am going on what my dr told me for my health condition. Not just google.
Yeah doctors get extremely limited nutrition training. But regardless, your doctor's woo claims on IF don't change the basic laws of science. If IF were the magic that you claim it is, people couldn't gain weight on it. Trust me. I admin a group of over 50, 000 intermittent fasters. Some are bulking, some are maintaining, and some are losing. And every single one achieves their goals by manipulating their caloric intake. The ones who come in complaining that they aren't losing, are the ones that don't count and foolishly believe that their intake doesn't matter or that low insulin levels will make them automatically lose weight. Insulin does not prevent weight loss or cause weight gain in a caloric deficit. You can choose not to count. But your body counts regardless. And I guarantee you that if your weight loss plateaus, it will be because you're eating too much. Don't get me wrong, its great that you found something to help keep you in calorie deficit. Intermittent fasting is awesome. It just doesn't do anything special or extra at all.6 -
I never claimed it was a magic weiggt loss plan. This post was for other people who have fasted and thier experience with it. If your against it fine thats your choice. I wanted to hear from experienced fasters not negitive thoughts. I have seen a postive result and will continue to do what works for me.2
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I trust that with my health condition that he is a expert in.That he would know how fasting would effect my thyroid. They have to know how anything would effect the thyroid.3
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Do you think you'll be able to keep the weight off once the fasting stops?0
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GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »I skip breakfast. Is this what you mean?
Same here.
Aaaaand same here. There is not weight loss benefit to IF. I can help you manage calories though.
How is there no benefit? That doesnt add up.
I think he means there is no added weight loss benefit compared to other ways of losing weight. It still works on the idea of CICO, if you eat too many calories even in a small window you will still gain weight, same as any other eating style. They are doing studies on other benefits of fasting, like oxidative cellular repair, less insulin spikes throughout the day etc you can see studies done on NIH if you're are interested in potential health benefits, jury is still out though.3 -
Lone_wolf46 wrote: »Do you think you'll be able to keep the weight off once the fasting stops?
Many people still practice IF into maintenance. They'll just be eating more calories in that window.1 -
My dr backed up that fasting like you said above is a calorie control method not magic weight loss. If e eryone would take the time to read my comments instead of jumping the gun theyed see i am not claiming its a faster weight loss plan. It just helped me and thats all I was saying.4
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