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  • LucasLean
    LucasLean Posts: 100 Member
    Eating less calories than maintenance will help you lose weight. It's not complicated, but depends on if someone wants to make it complicated.

  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    theledger5 wrote: »
    It was on a thyroid group where people are saying that CICO is outdated and that it doesn't work for everyone with health conditions such as autoimmune and food sensitivities etc.

    Well, they may be right as far as weight gain goes since CI<CO only applies to fat gain/loss and weight is more than fat. Calories in and calories out was 70's thinking, but that doesn't make it wrong.

    All calories are not equal doesn't really have a meaning but I think we all know what is meant nonetheless.
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    AlabasterVerve wrote: »
    theledger5 wrote: »
    Sorry if I didn't make my original post clear. I basically wanted some help to argue (that's a hobby of mine!) on the CICO arguement. I'm a member of a thyroid group as I have no thyroid and see the same issues with people not losing weight. I explained the CICO and how it works and this was the reply I got.

    What you eat and how much both matter so instead of beating the reductive CICO drum meet them in the middle. Acknowledge that calorie counting is an estimate, explain it that doesn't have to be 100% accurate to still work, and agree that yes, the food you eat matters, but it's a small part of the equation when it comes to weight loss.

    You are grinding your own ax there. (I see things didn't change much with you in the 3 years I was inactive). CICO for weight loss. The food you eat for nutrition and satiety. Mixing the 2 is nonsense.
  • CattOfTheGarage
    CattOfTheGarage Posts: 2,745 Member
    edited August 2017
    What you're trying to do is pretty hard and thankless. If it were me, I'd stay away from trying to overturn the accepted dogma of an online community, it tends to be pretty stubborn. Instead I'd look for one that already talks sense.

    But if you decide to persist, your quest is noble. Ultimately the arguments from physics and common sense (how can a body get heavier unless it's taking in extra stuff?) seem to me the most powerful.
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