2lbs a week when less than 10lbs to lose
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HarlemNY17 wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »When you lose weight, you lose fat and muscle. As the calorie deficit increases, the ratio of fat:muscle get skewed in the direction of muscle. 1% of total body weight is a general recommendation for healthy weekly loss. You will notice it when you're eating too little, but there are some confounding factors - logging of food intake may be inaccurate so you're eating more than you think, the lag before malnutrition catches up with you, your tolerance for hunger, water weight fluctuations, your body's fat% and maybe more.
Think about is as a river that dries up during summer and turns into a little creek. There is water, but it runs so so slowly, and starts to trickle.
Unlikely that you've gained any significant muscle while dieting. Are you a newbie, and returner or obese? And other than adequate protein, hitting your macros has little impact on muscle loss. Lack of sufficient energy in (calories) will though.4 -
HarlemNY17 wrote: »Take your time . At 1200 calories a day or lower for a male is not NORMAL . Male should atleast consume 1500 calories per day . Eating less than that you should see a doctor and not MyFitnessPal
except that the OP is female...4 -
deannalfisher wrote: »HarlemNY17 wrote: »Take your time . At 1200 calories a day or lower for a male is not NORMAL . Male should atleast consume 1500 calories per day . Eating less than that you should see a doctor and not MyFitnessPal
except that the OP is female...
I guess my handle is ambiguous...6 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »If you're losing more than 1% of your BW per week, you're definitely getting into your muscle mass. You don't have the fat stores to mobilize for fast weight loss.
This is concerning - I don't want to end up skinny fat. I do work out with a PT twice a week doing purely strength but have always assumed that I'm just losing the duvet of fat and maintaining the muscle underneath but not actually building any muscle.
So your body has a maximum amount of fat it can use every day/week?
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
True that this is possible if she is as active as she is mentioning with her swimming, etc. If we had height/weight/age we could estimate maintenance calories.... Just like we always say on here though, having a 1000 deficit with less than 10 pounds to goal is very tough to maintain. Figuring that the odds are that the answer falls somewhere in those areas, which is why I asked if she was eating her exercise calories that could have lead to a high deficit.
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
True that this is possible if she is as active as she is mentioning with her swimming, etc. If we had height/weight/age we could estimate maintenance calories.... Just like we always say on here though, having a 1000 deficit with less than 10 pounds to goal is very tough to maintain. Figuring that the odds are that the answer falls somewhere in those areas, which is why I asked if she was eating her exercise calories that could have lead to a high deficit.
If it helps - 5'4", 134.4lbs, 36. Goal is 125lbs
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I eat everything that doesn't move. And some things that do.3
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@GrumpyHeadmistress I haven't seen you say, so I'll ask. What is your BMI. It actually might inform the answers you get.
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Apparently it's 23. Who knew?!0
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JeromeBarry1 wrote: »@GrumpyHeadmistress I haven't seen you say, so I'll ask. What is your BMI. It actually might inform the answers you get.
According to the height/weigth she posted it would be 23.11 -
you are well within normal range for your height; maybe look to do something more like recomp to help with build lean muscle mass and reduce BF% - you'd need to increase your food to maintenance to do this and then do a progressive strength program (strong lifts, strong curves)0
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If you are going to lose at this rate make sure you get enough protein and maybe do some resistance workouts to preserve as much muscle as you can. I asked this question last week because I was losing a pound a week with nearly identical stats and wondered whether to slow it down to 0.5 for the sake of muscle retention and because that was the MFP conventional wisdom.
Was sent this "Martin MacDonald - diet as aggressively as you can without losing muscle" podcast in the replies which was really interesting and very debate worthy, also comes with some formulas of max you can lose based on your BF%
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhLIsFFsPAA
I'm sticking to a pound a week because I really don't want to restrict more than that but thought this was a good counter argument to the 0.5 a week for the last 15 pounds that gets banded about on the forums. Also watch the follow up vid about maintenance too since you're nearly there.
Interested what other MFPers think of this though? Seems solid advice and not woo to me but always happy to hear what others make of it?
EDIT: Heres my original thread for context:-
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10583651/should-i-slow-my-rate-of-loss-i-dont-want-to-lose-too-much-muscle#latest1 -
GrumpyHeadmistress wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »If you're losing more than 1% of your BW per week, you're definitely getting into your muscle mass. You don't have the fat stores to mobilize for fast weight loss.
This is concerning - I don't want to end up skinny fat. I do work out with a PT twice a week doing purely strength but have always assumed that I'm just losing the duvet of fat and maintaining the muscle underneath but not actually building any muscle.
So your body has a maximum amount of fat it can use every day/week?
Subcutaneous fat isn't immediately available to be converted to energy...it has to be mobilized and converted into triglycerides first...you don't have the fat stores to mobilize and convert that quickly.
You're at a perfectly healthy weight and BMI...if you're lean and trying to get leaner, it's a really slow process. I would think recomp would be more in order.5 -
In all honesty, if you have 10lbs to lose and you try to do it fast - you aren't really going to see a big difference because you'll be setting yourself up to lose a lot of muscle along with that fat.
What you're probably aiming for is more body recomposition versus losing the scale #. And to do that, you aren't going to want to start doing crash diets.
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Thanks all.
Crash diets definitely aren't my thing but I feel comfortable sticking to 1200 plus exercise calories.
I'm doing two pure strength sessions with a PT each week so I'm ok there.
I did try a diet break for two weeks but gained a 1lb the first week and then lost 2.5lbs the second week. Possibly wasn't at maintenance?1 -
I'm always over my protein macro and have an open diary (I think).
Don't freak out about being under today - I'm saving up for a huge burger with waffles and fried chicken on Friday...2 -
GrumpyHeadmistress wrote: »Thanks all.
Crash diets definitely aren't my thing but I feel comfortable sticking to 1200 plus exercise calories.
I'm doing two pure strength sessions with a PT each week so I'm ok there.
I did try a diet break for two weeks but gained a 1lb the first week and then lost 2.5lbs the second week. Possibly wasn't at maintenance?
Maintenance isn't an exact number...1 Lb up and 2.5 Lbs down are well withing the range of perfectly normal body weight fluctuations...maintenance is a range.5 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »GrumpyHeadmistress wrote: »Thanks all.
Crash diets definitely aren't my thing but I feel comfortable sticking to 1200 plus exercise calories.
I'm doing two pure strength sessions with a PT each week so I'm ok there.
I did try a diet break for two weeks but gained a 1lb the first week and then lost 2.5lbs the second week. Possibly wasn't at maintenance?
Maintenance isn't an exact number...1 Lb up and 2.5 Lbs down are well withing the range of perfectly normal body weight fluctuations...maintenance is a range.
Maybe I was at maintenance then!1 -
fluctuating weight is a sign of a healthy metabolism - my weight changes every day, but its the overall trend that is important1
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I think I'll leave a calories at 1200 but keep an eye on it. If I'm still losing rapidly (on average over a period) I'll up the calories based on MFP's recommendation for a 1lb or 0.5lb loss.
Thanks for the advice!0
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