Hold me accountable
ShortRound82
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I am opening myself up to anyone that wantS to befriend me and critique my diet, there is only one stipulation, don't mention anything about my coffee, I've already cut it down to one cup a day and that is as far as I'm willin to sacrifice in the department.
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You don't need to sacrifice anything you like. You just have to make sure you don't exceed the calories that are set to help you lose weight.
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Right it's just that is where everyone wants to attack, I feel a need to defend it.1
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Work on your feeling of being attacked and the need to justify your decisions, and then you just have to be accountable to yourself! This can do a lot for your self-esteem, and with a good self-esteem, it's easier to stick to your plan.4
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People attack you over one cup of coffee? Two days ago my colleagues made (light and friendly) fun of me for only having had one that day so far (I try to only have one the whole day).2
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Right I probably used the wrong choice of words, but the bottom line about the coffee is I just quit smoking 6 months ago, coffee is what is keeping me sane, I was told I need to reduce my creamer and sugar in said coffee, I have been slowly reducing since I quit, but I can't do what they ask and just go black essentially. So I cut down to one cup a day. That is the best i can do for right now. So I ask that no one touches or "attacks" my one remaining cup of coffee, it is my own personal battle. It's not low self-esteem to draw boundaries. I stick to everything else in this journey. I have not waivered from working out 6 days a week, even on days when I've been sweating all day and I'm drained, I still manage to get my workout in. I haven't eaten proccessed foods or sodas or fast food for that matter. All I ask is don't critique the coffee.
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What if we told you that you don't have to exercise, or cut out processed food (whatever that means to you), or sugar and creamer, or soda, or fast food, to lose weight?
Whoever "they" are, they are wrong. All you need to lose weight, is a consistent calorie deficit. Whatever makes you stick to a calorie deficit, will be a good strategy for you.
It's actually very important for your self-esteem to draw boundaries, that's why I'm trying to tell you that you don't have to (and you really shouldn't) justify/excuse/explain why and how you choose this and not that.3 -
I consistently have a calorie deficit, but I have yet to lose weight. Of course I still trying to figure out what calorie goal I need to be at. I went with the amount the app gave me for 30 days, and I gained another two pounds. Not sure if that was muscle or not.
At one point someone also told me I wasn't eating enough to lose, so I would eat when I wasn't hungry just to make it to the calorie goal. Not sure what the deal is but I just started a 60 day challenge. Hoping to lose weight this go round. I am listening to my body and only eating when I'm hungry and that only ends up being around 1000 calories. I know that is not alot, but if I was starving wouldn't my body know it and be hungry?1 -
No, if you're not losing weight, you're not in a calorie deficit. Calorie deficit means that you lose weight, because your body burns fat from your fat stores to make up for what it doesn't get (the deficit) thorugh what you eat day to day.alabove2017 wrote: »I consistently have a calorie deficit, but I have yet to lose weight.
You can start with what MFP gives you, it will always be some trial and error, but it's usually never far off.Of course I still trying to figure out what calorie goal I need to be at. I went with the amount the app gave me for 30 days, and I gained another two pounds. Not sure if that was muscle or not.
Enough to gain two pounds in a month - no, that much off is it not going to be.
Women don't just gain muscle that fast and easily.
Be sure you weigh yourself correctly, though. Same time of day, same clothes, same scales, fresh batteries. Prefreably every day so you can see through the fluctuations and focus on the trend.
Stop listening to those people! You lose weight when you eat less. There is no such thing as not eating enough to lose weight.At one point someone also told me I wasn't eating enough to lose, so I would eat when I wasn't hungry just to make it to the calorie goal. Not sure what the deal is but I just started a 60 day challenge. Hoping to lose weight this go round. I am listening to my body and only eating when I'm hungry and that only ends up being around 1000 calories. I know that is not alot, but if I was starving wouldn't my body know it and be hungry?
If you count calories, you have to do it right for it to work. Your body knows squat. That's why you're logging your food. Use an electronic food scale, weigh everything that passes your lips, after you've checked each entry for errors, and log the exact amount. Then be sure you log everything, don't cheat and don't forget. You don't estimate, you never guess. Don't "hope" to lose weight. If you have set your calorie goal to weight loss, and hit your calorie goal every day, you lose weight.
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I mean you might have it figured all out, but some of us are trying to figure out what is right for us. I had a calorie deficit according to the app. I went off of what the app said my calorie goal should be and always had a 200-500 calorie deficit. I now know since I gained two pounds the app was wrong. The deficit was also calculated before my exercise was added in, so technically I had an even bigger deficit, once again, according to the app. I'm not perfect I never expected to be, but I'm trying and learning. You are more than welcome to befriend me, since you are perfect maybe you can rub some of that perfection off on me. And I never cheat on my log, that is one thing, I would just be cheating myself. I log every cheat meal and I measure everything. I eat clean amd dont eat fast food or processed food because it's not healthy and harder for you body to digest. And I stopped drinking sodas because that is alot of sugar, I don't do fake sugar at all, because I'm sure I'll get cancer some othe way without the fake stuffs help. So all that "diet" miracle food is out of the picture.
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You have a lot to learn.alabove2017 wrote: »I mean you might have it figured all out, but some of us are trying to figure out what is right for us. I had a calorie deficit according to the app. I went off of what the app said my calorie goal should be and always had a 200-500 calorie deficit. I now know since I gained two pounds the app was wrong. The deficit was also calculated before my exercise was added in, so technically I had an even bigger deficit, once again, according to the app. I'm not perfect I never expected to be, but I'm trying and learning. You are more than welcome to befriend me, since you are perfect maybe you can rub some of that perfection off on me. And I never cheat on my log, that is one thing, I would just be cheating myself. I log every cheat meal and I measure everything. I eat clean amd dont eat fast food or processed food because it's not healthy and harder for you body to digest. And I stopped drinking sodas because that is alot of sugar, I don't do fake sugar at all, because I'm sure I'll get cancer some othe way without the fake stuffs help. So all that "diet" miracle food is out of the picture.
Do you measure your food by weight? If not, then you're likely eating more than you think.
If you gained weight, it might be because you added exercise recently.
Too high a deficit, meaning exercising and not compensating the calories, can lead to the body lowering metabolic rate and it's at REST that you burn the most stored body fat.
You don't need a "cheat" meal because the reality is you can "cheat" everyday if you're counting calories correctly.
Processed foods are actually EASIER to digest than whole foods.
"Fake" sugars don't cause cancer. Most cancer is genetic.
Don't complicate it. If you do a diet you can't stick to, weight regain will happen. CICO is king when it comes to weight loss regardless of how you eat.
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Yoyo information. Yeah I've heard the "I don't eat enough" before I'm done listening to that non-sense. You are right, I do have alot to learn but I am learning that people who love to give advice, do just that give advice. Nobody said it was correct advice, or that the advice from one person to the next is not going to be contradicting. Neither one of you have sent me a friend request to actually see what my journey has been. You just think you know. But you're right I have alot to learn, but it's what my body is telling me I need, not what some "know it all" stranger thinks I need. How can anyone hold me accountable if they don't know my progression diary. Blows my mind. When I said hold me accountable I meant look over my diary encourage me, fuss at me on my "bad" days. I never asked for anyone to assume I'm not doing what I can and what I need when it comes to nutrition and exercise. Have a nice day.1
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Hangry.5
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You're already defensive when you're being given proper advice.
That doesn't bode well.
If you're not losing weight, you're not in a deficit.
Tracking correctly takes some learning, there are some common pitfalls.
Are you using a food scale to measure all solids and measuring cups to measure all liquids?
Are you verifying that you have selected the correct data base entries by consulting the USDA data base or nutritiondata.self.com?
Are you selecting generic entries like "cheese sandwich" instead of entering the data for the components of the sandwich you make yourself separately?
Are you selecting generic entries like "homemade chili" instead of entering the recipe yourself into the recipe builder?
If you're not doing these things, you're not logging accurately, and you are underestimating how much you're eating.6 -
alabove2017 wrote: »Yoyo information. Yeah I've heard the "I don't eat enough" before I'm done listening to that non-sense. You are right, I do have alot to learn but I am learning that people who love to give advice, do just that give advice. Nobody said it was correct advice, or that the advice from one person to the next is not going to be contradicting. Neither one of you have sent me a friend request to actually see what my journey has been. You just think you know. But you're right I have alot to learn, but it's what my body is telling me I need, not what some "know it all" stranger thinks I need. How can anyone hold me accountable if they don't know my progression diary. Blows my mind. When I said hold me accountable I meant look over my diary encourage me, fuss at me on my "bad" days. I never asked for anyone to assume I'm not doing what I can and what I need when it comes to nutrition and exercise. Have a nice day.
Another important factor is you're female. You can temporarily be retaining water relating to your cycle.
And the only person who can hold you accountable is yourself.
Edited to add: There's a wonderful saying that applies here: "When you know better, you do better." People here are really trying to help you do better.4 -
Hangry, lol no I actually just ate lunch. Just don't like when people assume I'm not doing what I should be doing. And apparently nobody knows how to read. I gained because I was following the calorie goal the app set for me. It was very wrong, that is evident. Yes I gained because I was eating too much, that is a no shitt statement. I gained because the apps calorie calculation were very wrong and all though I had a calorie deficit it was still too many calories for what I needed. I work a active job on top of working out for an hour per day 6 days a week, I assumed the calculated calories that it said I needed were correct, but guess what, I gained weight, so they were wrong.
I measure everything I eat.
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Also I only weigh about once a month0
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Do you measure with a food scale?
Do you verify data base entries?
Do you enter ingredients for recipes?
Do you ever choose generic entries?
If you're not logging correctly, the app didn't give you the wrong amount of calories.
There is no prize given out for getting logging right from the get-go.
I lost 80 pounds and was in the process of losing more (I've lost 90 total to date) when I fell into a trap of trusting package data instead of verifying an entry with the USDA data base and it caused me trouble with losing weight as I should have been.
And I thought I had it all down pat because I had demonstrated that I could lose weight like a champ. HA!
You have much to learn, young padawan.5 -
what calorie goal did the app give you? what are your stats? did you overestimate your activity level in the settings? eg. by assuming your exercise is part of that activity level
ps. with that attitude, i wouldnt send you a friend request2 -
I do not choose generic entries, I use exact brand information, and verify that it matches the food package, if it doesn't match I search for one that does or I adjust it. Most of the time the information is correct. I use measuring cups, not heaping measurements either. I do not have a food scale as of yet. So i guess i am lacking on that end. As I'm making something I measure out the ingredients and add it to a meal I create. I do trust packaging information, are you telling me I should not. you are telling me that food manufacturers are not accurate. Also that was my first 30 days of tracking, mistakes were made following to the wrong calorie goal, lesson learned, I have now spoken to a nutritionist and my calorie goal should be accurate now, but if I gain 2 more pounds after 30 days, I'll know something is still off.
I'm concerned that food packaging information is incorrect now, but at least I'm staying away from the fake sugar crap. When one sugar only causes cancer in California and another was banned in the u.s. a decade ago, I don't trust it. Fda approved or not.3 -
alabove2017 wrote: »Hangry, lol no I actually just ate lunch. Just don't like when people assume I'm not doing what I should be doing. And apparently nobody knows how to read. I gained because I was following the calorie goal the app set for me. It was very wrong, that is evident. Yes I gained because I was eating too much, that is a no shitt statement. I gained because the apps calorie calculation were very wrong and all though I had a calorie deficit it was still too many calories for what I needed. I work a active job on top of working out for an hour per day 6 days a week, I assumed the calculated calories that it said I needed were correct, but guess what, I gained weight, so they were wrong.
I measure everything I eat.
What are your stats? Height and current weight? What did MFP give you as a daily calorie allotment? What did you set your activity level to, and how much did you tell it you wanted to lose each week? How are you measuring your exercise burns, and do you add those in?
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I am 4'11", I currently weight 147.
I set to lose 1 lb per week
MPF set my calorie goal for 1550.
I set activity level to active.
Steps are counted on phone, I only count the steps during working hours because I hussle, I'm up and down stairs and ladders all day long.
I own an elliptical and I use the calorie burn displayed for which ever level of workout I do.
Calstenics are calculated by the app, I tell it how long and how hard I went at it.
Yes I add those in, but I don't eat more because of it.
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So you DO eat processed foods.alabove2017 wrote: »I do not choose generic entries, I use exact brand information, and verify that it matches the food package, if it doesn't match I search for one that does or I adjust it. Most of the time the information is correct.
Packaging is likely right, MEASURING is usually the inaccuracy with the user. A "cup" can vary in weight measurement by and ounce or more.I use measuring cups, not heaping measurements either. I do not have a food scale as of yet. So i guess i am lacking on that end. As I'm making something I measure out the ingredients and add it to a meal I create. I do trust packaging information, are you telling me I should not. you are telling me that food manufacturers are not accurate.
The calorie goal could have been correct. Again, the accuracy of measuring and intake and output could have been off.Also that was my first 30 days of tracking, mistakes were made following to the wrong calorie goal, lesson learned, I have now spoken to a nutritionist and my calorie goal should be accurate now, but if I gain 2 more pounds after 30 days, I'll know something is still off.
What? What artificial sweetener was banned a decade ago? Artificial sweeteners are the MOST studied additive on the market and almost all of them show no issues with moderate use by general public. MEGA DOSES ON MICE AND RATS, yes. Humans, not so much.I'm concerned that food packaging information is incorrect now, but at least I'm staying away from the fake sugar crap. When one sugar only causes cancer in California and another was banned in the u.s. a decade ago, I don't trust it. Fda approved or not.
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I'm not sure about your activity setting. I thought that was for construction workers and the like. Maybe moderately active, but since you're not eating back exercise calories (which isn't a good idea), it should have been okay.
There are videos on youtube, which I can't find right now (Chrome mysteriously dumped my bookmarks) which show how inaccurate measuring cups can be.
Get a food scale. Measure in grams. Stick to the 1500 goal. See what happens. Read the posts in the forum stickies.0 -
alabove2017 wrote: »I am 4'11", I currently weight 147.
I set to lose 1 lb per week
MPF set my calorie goal for 1550.
I set activity level to active.
Steps are counted on phone, I only count the steps during working hours because I hussle, I'm up and down stairs and ladders all day long.
I own an elliptical and I use the calorie burn displayed for which ever level of workout I do.
Calstenics are calculated by the app, I tell it how long and how hard I went at it.
Yes I add those in, but I don't eat more because of it.
1. weigh everything with a scale and use correct entries to get accurate calorie intake
2. maybe you should reduce activity level to slightly active,
3. log only your calisthenics and elliptical in exercise diary. be aware that the machine could show incorrect calorie burns.
4. calories burnt by 'steps' at work shouldn't be in the exercise diary as theyre already part of activity level. if you go for cardio walks, add those in exercise diary.
5. keep net calories within the new goal the app gives you
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Not sticking to 1500 calories that resulted in weight gain. I sweat all day due to my highly physical job. The only rest I get is driving from job to job. Life of a service technician. Everytime I drive by a construction site they are all just standing around and maybe one guy is working, and that guy even get more breaks than me. I know because when I go to construction sites to help out when I don't have service calls, it's an easy day. I don't sit at a desk or just walk around, I am physically working a "man's" job. The only thing I can't do that your so-called hard working construction workers do is heavy lifting, I am just not as physically strong as a man, and that is okay, but don't start to tell me they work harder and have a more physically active job than me, because that would be a lie. I am so done with this *kitten*, there has been some good advice and I thank some of you for that
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alabove2017 wrote: »Also I only weigh about once a month
This right here could be your problem (or at least part of it). Weight fluctuates, due to a huge number of factors affecting mostly water weight. Any one of those could easily mask fat loss. Example - if I had a high carb (higher than normal) meal, also high in sodium, and I was due to either ovulate or get my period, my weight could easily be up a couple of kilograms on the scale. Many women here report even bigger monthly fluctuations than that. If you've increased your exercise, either amount or intensity, that can also cause temporary fluid retention.
Also, if you want people to send you friend requests, maybe try being a little more pleasant.2 -
alabove2017 wrote: »Not sticking to 1500 calories that resulted in weight gain. I sweat all day due to my highly physical job. The only rest I get is driving from job to job. Life of a service technician. Everytime I drive by a construction site they are all just standing around and maybe one guy is working, and that guy even get more breaks than me. I know because when I go to construction sites to help out when I don't have service calls, it's an easy day. I don't sit at a desk or just walk around, I am physically working a "man's" job. The only thing I can't do that your so-called hard working construction workers do is heavy lifting, I am just not as physically strong as a man, and that is okay, but don't start to tell me they work harder and have a more physically active job than me, because that would be a lie. I am so done with this *kitten*, there has been some good advice and I thank some of you for that
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The advice given is solid and nobody has been rude to you. If you are determined that following the (frankly very good) advice given in this thread won't work - you are the only person who is impacted by that.
I would like to add, also - having lost 99lbs in the last 11 months following the same advice you've been given - it works if you try it. If it doesn't work - you're a medical marvel and your nearest medical school would probably love to have you as a research or case study.6 -
Most of the advice given here should work to help you lose weight. I personally don't agree with artificial sweeteners being "safe" but that's a personal choice left up to the individual.
I'm not saying you don't have a physical job, but you might want to bring your activity metric down a level. These metrics are computer based...they aren't super personalized so activity level can be subjective. I am on my feet all day walking and climbing stairs, but I don't pick the most active option (best to be concervative). Changing the level takes nothing away from you (other than some calories) as a person or lessens the hard work you do...it just might make your calorie goal better suited for you.
I also find that the calorie count on fitness machines to be higher than reality.3 -
Not sure how I got reported when I didn't mention anyone, but whoever reported me, have a nice day.0
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You're welcome.alabove2017 wrote: »I am so done with this *kitten*, there has been some good advice and I thank some of you for that
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