That Keto Life
DRivera501
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Any tips for a beginner like me? I want to try it given that if done, it might be effective in loosing weight. I've been conditioned to avoid fats at all cost and so having to consume fat to loose weight seems mind blowing to me.
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You don't consume fat to lose weight, you replace some of your carbs with fat. You lose weight if you have a consistent calorie deficit. Pay attention to "consistent" - you have to eat less day in, day out for quite some time, and you can only do that if you like the way you are doing it. Eat in any way you like, but keep your calories in check. Your food diary is a great tool as long as you use it correctly.9
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Keto has its pros and cons, and you don't need to follow a keto diet to lose weight. I found that it helped with my satiety but you still need to count calories and eat at a calorie deficit to lose weight.
I've done keto on and off (currently off) for years. Here are my pros and cons:
Pros:
- Better satiety, less tummy grumbles and quick onset hunger pangs
- More energy and mental clarity
- Much less flatulence, less frequent BMs
- No more stomach bloating
- Quick water weight loss within first week
Cons:
- Too restrictive and unsustainable, even with substitutions
- Difficult to eat with friends and family (restaurants, special occasions)
- Constipation
- More expensive groceries
- No energy during exercise (running especially, but strength also suffered)6 -
Keto has its pros and cons, and you don't need to follow a keto diet to lose weight. I found that it helped with my satiety but you still need to count calories and eat at a calorie deficit to lose weight.
I've done keto on and off (currently off) for years. Here are my pros and cons:
Pros:
- Better satiety, less tummy grumbles and quick onset hunger pangs
- More energy and mental clarity
- Much less flatulence, less frequent BMs
- No more stomach bloating
- Quick water weight loss within first week
Cons:
- Too restrictive and unsustainable, even with substitutions
- Difficult to eat with friends and family (restaurants, special occasions)
- Constipation
- More expensive groceries
- No energy during exercise (running especially, but strength also suffered)
I would echo this as well! I've been on and off keto and I hated the weight jump when I would go off keto. I still do relatively low carb but mainly so I can eat a bigger portion of something else (ex; I eat shredded chicken taco meat with veggies and cheese and can eat more chicken cause I don't have to account calories for the tortilla). Honestly, I am happier being informally low carb but still having fruit and other stuff!
If you are going to give it a try, just know that cheating will cause a weight jump! And things like onions and garlic have carbs! But it is a lot of fun eating bacon and cheese a lot!
I would join the low carb group on here! They would have more tips!
Good luck!1 -
Same here, ex-ketoer. It was not fun for me.. constipation (BM every 4 days or more), Not happy eating mostly fat. Could not eat the healthy vegetables and fruits I wanted (limiting only to about 25-30 g of carbs). Most of the time, I just wanted a darn donut! This was truly not sustainable for me, yet there are alot of people who do keto for years and are successful. I am more happy eating high carb, having deficit calories, and having the same exact results.1
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I have been in nutritional Ketosis for 6 mos now. I have lost 25 lbs of excess body fat and added around 3lbs lean mass since starting my surplus phase.
Starting weight 186 (~145 lean mass) @ 22.1% BF on 3/1/2017
Current weight 166 (~141 lean mass) @ 15.5% BF on 8/23/2017
Keto is just a nutritional protocol. It's a tool, but it is a very effective one. If you give your body enough stimulus, in the form of weight training, it can be very muscle sparing also. Regarding the side effects, the only negative sides I've experienced are mental in nature. I can be irritable if I don't get my trace vitamins/minerals. Other than that, I coupled it with an intermittent fasting protocol of 16/8. The weight falls off, you remain strong and it's extremely sustainable.
I've programmed for a few other people, but never for a female. Your bodies are a bit different than ours, but not overly so. I'm sure you can be successful with this if you approach it experimentally.
Go figure out your TDEE using this calculator. Always set your activity to sedentary. I train very heavy every day, but I work in an office...I'm sedentary.
Set your macros as follows
30g Carbohydrate
Xg Protein where X is your body weight times .85
Remaining calories from fat.
Example - You weight 130lbs and you're 25 years old at 5'5"
TDEE: 1,802kcal/day
30g Carb (4kcal/g =120kcal)
110g Protein (4kcal/g =440kcal)
138g Fat (9kcal/g =1242kcal)
5000 mg of sodium (not just salt)
1000 mg of potassium, in the form of potassium chloride or potassium sulfate
300 mg of magnesium, preferably in the form of magnesium citrate
That's your basic nutritional profile. Follow it
Additional reading (warning, the rabbit hole is very very deep)
Ketogains Subreddit
Ketogains Macro Calculator. Honestly my way is easier, but less scientific
Follow me if you want, or ask questions. This is my favorite thing to study and I'm always trying to improve how I approach it. Seeing and helping others be successful gives me that.12 -
kommodevaran wrote: »You don't consume fat to lose weight, you replace some of your carbs with fat. You lose weight if you have a consistent calorie deficit. Pay attention to "consistent" - you have to eat less day in, day out for quite some time, and you can only do that if you like the way you are doing it. Eat in any way you like, but keep your calories in check. Your food diary is a great tool as long as you use it correctly.
This 100%2 -
In case Keto does not work for you, you can choose other eating plans to lose weight.
It's all about the daily calories and tracking. Get a food scale. I lost weight eating high good-carb.2 -
I've been on keto for a month and a half now, and am down 22 pounds (I have not weighed in this week yet, so it's probably more). This is coming from someone who's favorite food was macaroni and cheese. I don't miss carbs at all and as long as there is a steak/burger (no bun)/grilled chicken wing option I can still eat out with my family, albeit I do it a lot less now. I struggled with calorie deficits in the past but keto keeps me full longer and I rarely get hunger pangs. Most of the time I don't get very close to my decifit and I've averaged a lost 2 pounds a week. I didn't know how to control my carb intake before keto (I was just so hungry, all of the time) so keto is the bomb!
As for tips make sure you keep your electrolytes up (I bought "smart water" bottles, since it has electrolytes added, but you can make your own "ketoade" as a cheaper option, most people use lite salt and some sort of sugar free drink flavoring, there are other recipies online), don't worry about the scale too much in the beginning. You will drop a lot of water weight at first. I lost 15 pounds in my first week, but gained the next two weeks. In the end I still ended up losing weight. The cravings will be hard at first, but keep calm and keto on! It's worth it.9 -
That's so awesome, also your love for macaroni and cheese speaks to me on a spiritual level lol. I'd love to have some more keto friends!!1
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Thank you all for the insight! If you have any ideas as what I can snack on, your input will be appreciated.
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Keep in mind that there's nothing magical about keto...it's just a really strict and restrictive eating protocol that for many people results in a calorie deficit...thus weight loss.
I personally would be miserable...the only way I would consider doing it is if I had a medical condition that warranted that kind of torture...I have an aunt who is keto because she's epileptic and it helps with that...4 -
I read that pork rinds are a good snack if you want that crunch but the serving size on a bag is TINY, still, they satisfy my need to munch and don't add up to too much on the calorie count so that's good. I know they can't be that healthy though but I'm at a loss for snack ideas too. I think nuts, maybe?2
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Hello I'm Julie and I'm on my 14th week into keto. Big thing to remember is eat less than but no more than 20g Net Carbs to start, hit your protein macro and eat enough fat to feel full on a daily basis. You don't have to hit your fat macro, but I usually get somewhat close myself. Basically if you aren't hungry at the end of the day and have some left to fill on your macros, don't stress over filling them. I mix it up when I eat meals and keep it interesting by making different keto friendly recipes everyday. Keto chicken parm with zoodles is my fav, zucchini noodles are delicious!! I fry them in a skillet with a little oil and season them. I use pork rinds for the breading on chicken, just put them in a big ziplock baggy, close it and smash them into crumbs! You can add parmesean or mozzarella cheese and seasoning to the pork rind breading, put chicken in the bag and shake to coat. They bake on the chicken so nice. Best of luck to you! If anyone wants a fellow keto friend feel free to add me for support!3
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I read that pork rinds are a good snack if you want that crunch but the serving size on a bag is TINY, still, they satisfy my need to munch and don't add up to too much on the calorie count so that's good. I know they can't be that healthy though but I'm at a loss for snack ideas too. I think nuts, maybe?
You could make some parmesean chips. Or snack on rolled up lunch meat or pepperoni/salami, cheese and mayo or even without mayo they are tasty! I make pork rind nachos or pork rind cinnamon twists. I also snack on babybel cheese, fat bombs(sometimes), or pickles.3 -
Hello and welcome! I suggest you check out the following main low carber daily forum group here in MFP. It's where most of Ketophiles tend to hang out:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/discussions/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group0 -
Congratulations on your decision to go keto. First things first. Educate yourself. The keto diet (protocol) is not for everyone. It takes a lot of discipline and commitment. Like any "diet" it is nothing more than a lifestyle change. There are many naysayers about keto (as evidenced in this thread) and you will run into people who think you are nuts. Resolutely IGNORE THEM. Keto is not Adkins. It's Adkins on Steroids. It's not any more expensive than a carb based diet. It is definitely NOT a high protein diet. Excess protein strains the kidneys and causes a host of medical issues. Keto is a high fat, moderate protein, low or no carb diet. Carbohydrates are the one macro the body can live without.
There are many good books on the ketogenic diet. I have been reading Keto Clarity by Jimmy Moore, Kindle edition. The keto diet has been around since the 1920s so it's not a fad. An easy way to calculate your macros is by percentages. Carbs: 0 to 20%, Protein: 20 to 25%, Fats: 60 to 80%. Your macro total should always equal 100% of your daily caloric intake. ex: My macros= Carbs: 5%, Protein: 20%, Fats: 75% (I have a 1413 kcal daily target. Carbs= 18 grams, Protein= 71 grams, Fats= 119 grams).
There are also lots of good keto and Paleo websites with great info and tips to help you transition into a keto lifestyle. Ultimately, you have to find out what works for you and then fine tune it.
Good luck on your journey.8 -
I do keto on and off. I had a baby in February, and my prepregnancy weight was 128 lbs. At first, I dropped a ton of fat doing strict keto AND a large calorie deficit. From the end of march until the end of May I went from 144 lbs (2 months postpartum) to 121 lbs (4 months postpartum). At that point I got a lot more lenient with my keto eating. I would cheat on the weekends and do intermittent fasting with a keto diet during the week. (IF is such a huge weightloss weapon!!) I no longer experience "keto flu" when going into ketosis thankfully! I platoued at 120(ish) for a few months. I have since continued IF and keto when I feel like I've gone too long eating non keto which has helped me maintain and still get down to 117. I turned 30 this week and freaked out a bit and began keto again along with 18/6 IF. As of today I weigh 112.2 lbs. I hope to start gaining a bit of weight back when my daughter starts school back up, and I can get to the gym to lift some weights. I want to be skinny- not scrawny! Hope this helps encourage you!
TIPS:
- I recommend a Pinterest board for keto recipes and tips.
- I recommend plugging everything you plan on eating during the day into MFP before you ever take a bite to make sure your macros are on point.
- I reccomend SAMS club for groceries! They have a huge cheese tray for under $10 that I would make guacamole and bake the cheese slices for my "chips".
- I recommend (from the 4 hour body by Tim Ferriss) eating he same exact meals over and over again.
- Meal prep meal prep meal prep!
Good luck! Stay focused!5 -
jelizabeth713 wrote: »hit your protein macro and eat enough fat to feel full on a daily basis. You don't have to hit your fat macro, but I usually get somewhat close myself. Basically if you aren't hungry at the end of the day and have some left to fill on your macros, don't stress over filling them.
I thought I had to hit my fat macro 1st. This makes me feel a bit better. Also, I've spent hours trying to make meal plans for each day to get as close to goal as possible on carb/protein/fat. I actually forced myself to snack the other day when i really didnt want to eat. I thought I had to. Wont you mess up your macros if you dont eat accordingly?
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kimjschroeder wrote: »
I thought I had to hit my fat macro 1st. This makes me feel a bit better. Also, I've spent hours trying to make meal plans for each day to get as close to goal as possible on carb/protein/fat. I actually forced myself to snack the other day when i really didnt want to eat. I thought I had to. Wont you mess up your macros if you dont eat accordingly?
Nope. Carb is a limit, protein is a goal and fat is a lever. Keep Carbs low(usually under 20g for ketosis), hit your protein(sometimes I go over a smidge with zero issues) and eat as much fat to feel full. If you're not hungry then don't eat. only macro you need to focus on hitting good is protein.1 -
Im not an expert on keto….I got into it because of inflammation and general uneasiness suffered by eating carb heavy foods day in and day out….insulin spikes and hungry every 2 hrs or so. Just incessant hunger.
my keto eating is based on keeping the carbs below 20 and certainly not over 30gm a day. I do not follow the concept of gratuitous loading up on fat….but i will use it without fear. But will i put 2 pats of butter in my coffee…
no f'kin way. The idea is to allow the body to utilise your own excess fat at first…and slowly ratchet up fat intake.
I will do this over the next 3-6 months.
The most important part of the journey is to figure out replacements to 3-4 things that most people can't do without: rice, breads, noodles and sugar. As these pretty much accompany whatever your main course is.
I haven't tried cauliflower rice yet but have started making keto flatbreads and these can go with anything….
don't find shopping for groceries more expensive….i have saved a lot on not buying carb loaded junk so it's almost the same for me expense-wise.2
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