Any paleo people

janedaly56
janedaly56 Posts: 9 Member
edited November 21 in Food and Nutrition
Hi I'm wanting some diet tips from anyone who follows the paleo lifestyle. I'm not entirely paleo but I prefer to be!!!! Cheers Jane

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  • albin9072
    albin9072 Posts: 26 Member
    Actually what diet it was ,paleo,pls clear me
  • madwells1
    madwells1 Posts: 510 Member
    I'm Paleo and I love it.

    Note that there are several ideas out there on what Paleo is or isn't. I am not going to argue who's version is better here, just present what I follow because it works for me.

    Essentially, I started by cutting out all processed sugar in any food that I ate. That pretty much meant no packaged anything unless sugar wasn't added. Note that you would be amazed at all the sugar that is added to stuff when you actually take the time to read the ingredient list.

    This combined with adding the requirement that I needed to eat fresh vegetables (green leafy, zucchini, etc or something of the sort) with every meal, and that all the meat I buy be hormone/antibiotic free/grass fed and/or fresh and I have literally over 2.5 months lost 25 pounds and feel amazing.

    It is a lot of work for me as now I cook all my meals (which I thoroughly enjoy), but I tend to grocery shop on Saturdays, prep all my food on Sundays so I don't have to worry about not having stuff to eat throughout the week.

    I have found that simply eating better food --and maybe more importantly learning to enjoy eating (cooking and presentation has become very important as well as trying new things) it has really helped me obtain a better relationship with food. I no longer have cravings for crap food...which to me is amazing.

    Also, although I tend to spend more money on proteins, I tend to be satisfied with 4-6 ounces of the protein now, whereas before I could eat 12 oz of anything not realizing how much food that was! That combined with buying vegetables over processed stuff in packages, and I actually save money on food believe it or not as I try not to waste anything at all because fresh stuff goes bad quicker than packaged stuff that you ignore.

    Lastly, I tend to be of the belief that you have to make it a lifestyle not a religion, which means every once in awhile I will have greek yogurt or black beans because I don't have any issues with these foods every now and then and I don't get bored.

  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    albin9072 wrote: »
    Actually what diet it was ,paleo,pls clear me

    Paleo=no legumes, grains, or dairy.

    I did it for a bit (I already pretty much ate whole foods cooked at home, so that part wasn't much of a change, I cut out added sugar for a while as an experiment which was't all that hard). I quit because I decided the things I liked about it -- eating lots of whole foods, trying to eat the whole animal and being careful about sourcing my meat, filling up half my plate or more with vegetables -- were all things I was doing before and would continue doing after and were not intrinsic to paleo. Other thing, like no whole grains, legumes, or dairy, seemed pointless or actively wrong (I think I ought to eat more legumes than I do).

    So I dropped it, and I think legumes and dairy are foods that help me meet my nutrition goals (I don't care much about grains, so limit them because they usually aren't worth the calories for me). But if you aren't used to eating a whole foods based diet with lots of vegetables, it can be an inspiration to get there. Just don't think paleo is the only way to do that.

    I could easily gain, lose, or maintain doing paleo. But I'd miss cheese, greek yogurt, and lentil soup, as well as the occasional healthy pasta dinner with shrimp and lots of vegetables!
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    Oh, re diet tips, there are lots of good paleo recipe blogs. My question would be what kind of tips are you looking for? Lots of my meals are still technically paleo (most of them would be if I eliminated the little bit cheese I add to, say, an omelet, which is easy enough), so I can give tips about menu ideas and planning and so on, but would need to know what types of things you are looking for.
  • sgt1372
    sgt1372 Posts: 3,997 Member
    I eat a mainly paleo diet but didn't realize it was "paleo" until recently.

    No secret to it.

    Just mainly eat meat, seafood, veggies, fruit & nuts- - ie, high protein & hig carbs

    Eliminate as much alcohol, soda, sugar, flour, bread, grains, legumes and dairy as possible.

    In my case, I also try to limit carbs to mainly low-GI sources, especially if they are not paleo "approved."

    Lost 38# and dropped my BF from over 20% down to 8.9% eating this way over the padt 25 months.
  • sgt1372
    sgt1372 Posts: 3,997 Member
    sgt1372 wrote: »
    Lost 38# and dropped my BF from over 20% down to 8.9% eating this way over the past 15 months.

    Correction in bold.
  • jdlobb
    jdlobb Posts: 1,232 Member
    I looked into it, because one of my best friends lost a bunch of weight and got in great shape while on it, but then I read you can't have milk or cheese and was like, thanks but no thanks.
  • sgt1372
    sgt1372 Posts: 3,997 Member
    jdlobb wrote: »
    I looked into it, because one of my best friends lost a bunch of weight and got in great shape while on it, but then I read you can't have milk or cheese and was like, thanks but no thanks.

    You can still have cheese and other dairy products, just in moderation.

    It won't be a "strict" paleo diet but it doesn't need to be. I eat a variety of non-paleo approved items on occasion (and sometimes even regularly) w/o any apparent problems. They just don't make up the bulk of my diet.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    newmeadow wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    albin9072 wrote: »
    Actually what diet it was ,paleo,pls clear me

    Paleo=no legumes, grains, or dairy.

    I did it for a bit (I already pretty much ate whole foods cooked at home, so that part wasn't much of a change, I cut out added sugar for a while as an experiment which was't all that hard). I quit because I decided the things I liked about it -- eating lots of whole foods, trying to eat the whole animal and being careful about sourcing my meat, filling up half my plate or more with vegetables -- were all things I was doing before and would continue doing after and were not intrinsic to paleo. Other thing, like no whole grains, legumes, or dairy, seemed pointless or actively wrong (I think I ought to eat more legumes than I do).

    So I dropped it, and I think legumes and dairy are foods that help me meet my nutrition goals (I don't care much about grains, so limit them because they usually aren't worth the calories for me). But if you aren't used to eating a whole foods based diet with lots of vegetables, it can be an inspiration to get there. Just don't think paleo is the only way to do that.

    I could easily gain, lose, or maintain doing paleo. But I'd miss cheese, greek yogurt, and lentil soup, as well as the occasional healthy pasta dinner with shrimp and lots of vegetables!

    Or white potatoes or man made sugar.

    Most versions of paleo I've seen permit potatoes. I think there's no paleo-based rationale not to, even if you choose to ignore that paleo people probably did consume legumes and some grains. This is actually why I decided against doing W30 when I was doing paleo, since I thought no potatoes was so poorly reasoned (why I thought it was worse than no legumes, I dunno, I think because the book said no potatoes because people eat fries, and I normally eat roasted potatoes and it would be easy to say no fried potatoes/fries/chips if that was the real point). Anyway, I mention this because I later read that even they'd dropped the no potatoes thing.

    To me, no added sugar follows from it being whole-foods based, but IME most people doing "paleo" cheat on special occasions for things like beer or sweets, or are loose on things like sriracha or a dry BBQ rub, so end up having added sugar about as often as I do not doing it.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited August 2017
    newmeadow wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    newmeadow wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    albin9072 wrote: »
    Actually what diet it was ,paleo,pls clear me

    Paleo=no legumes, grains, or dairy.

    I did it for a bit (I already pretty much ate whole foods cooked at home, so that part wasn't much of a change, I cut out added sugar for a while as an experiment which was't all that hard). I quit because I decided the things I liked about it -- eating lots of whole foods, trying to eat the whole animal and being careful about sourcing my meat, filling up half my plate or more with vegetables -- were all things I was doing before and would continue doing after and were not intrinsic to paleo. Other thing, like no whole grains, legumes, or dairy, seemed pointless or actively wrong (I think I ought to eat more legumes than I do).

    So I dropped it, and I think legumes and dairy are foods that help me meet my nutrition goals (I don't care much about grains, so limit them because they usually aren't worth the calories for me). But if you aren't used to eating a whole foods based diet with lots of vegetables, it can be an inspiration to get there. Just don't think paleo is the only way to do that.

    I could easily gain, lose, or maintain doing paleo. But I'd miss cheese, greek yogurt, and lentil soup, as well as the occasional healthy pasta dinner with shrimp and lots of vegetables!

    Or white potatoes or man made sugar.

    Most versions of paleo I've seen permit potatoes. I think there's no paleo-based rationale not to, even if you choose to ignore that paleo people probably did consume legumes and some grains. This is actually why I decided against doing W30 when I was doing paleo, since I thought no potatoes was so poorly reasoned (why I thought it was worse than no legumes, I dunno, I think because the book said no potatoes because people eat fries, and I normally eat roasted potatoes and it would be easy to say no fried potatoes/fries/chips if that was the real point). Anyway, I mention this because I later read that even they'd dropped the no potatoes thing.

    To me, no added sugar follows from it being whole-foods based, but IME most people doing "paleo" cheat on special occasions for things like beer or sweets, or are loose on things like sriracha or a dry BBQ rub, so end up having added sugar about as often as I do not doing it.

    I go by Dr. Loren Cordain's definition of paleo. He coined the (oft maligned) Paleo moniker and is the go to guy for classical academic paleo. You maybe never heard of him because he's not a marketeer and doesn't constantly redefine "paleo" to benefit from selling books, offering coaching services, and click baiting on websites. But I'll shut up now because politicizing paleo is best avoided at MFP.

    No, I've heard of him. He has a few books, even. But generally the premise is removing foods that were not commonly eaten by the paleo period (which has other issues, IMO), and tubers were. More to the point, there's no good rationale for consuming other tubers (like sweet potatoes) and not potatoes.

    I think Cordain's original version of the diet (although there were paleo type diets before him, I believe) was anti nightshades, which would include potatoes, but that's usually not part of it unless it's something like the auto-immune protocol.

    I think the "academic" argument for anything like strict paleo is largely debunked, including the original premise that we are not adapted or "evolved" to eat foods not consumed in the paleo period, but that the diet itself can still be healthful (even helpful) if one finds the whole paleo thing makes it easier to do what I think is generally healthful -- eating a nutrient dense, whole foods based diet with lots of vegetables, adequate protein, and not an excess of refined carbs or added fats (i.e, treat foods). It also cuts out cheese, which some overeat. And as I said above, I really like the focus on eating locally, the whole animal, sourcing meat carefully so on, and do that myself.

    I think it's a pleasant enough way to eat, even though I think legumes are generally nutritionally positive, dairy can be helpful in meeting protein needs and plain yogurt is generally good for many (probiotics) and potatoes (if we are banning those) and whole grains are pretty healthful and hard to overeat unless you add lots of fat. But what works for people varies, so that paleo would work is not something I reject. I just don't see how it's more healthful than many other ways to eat that include the banned foods.
  • sgt1372
    sgt1372 Posts: 3,997 Member
    FWIW, even if potatoes are considered acceptable in a paleo diet, I avoid eating them because they are generally hi GI and convert quickly into glucose which is used as energy for rhe body (instead of stored fat) and which also promotes the release of insulin (in response to the spike in blood sugar) contributing to the storage of excess glucose as additional fat.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    Even if GI mattered and you would add fat on a deficit, which is of course not true, I don't believe the GI or GL of a meal of steak, roasted potatoes, and broccoli and cauliflower is meaningfully different than the same meal with sweet potatoes instead.
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,002 Member
    edited August 2017
    sgt1372 wrote: »
    FWIW, even if potatoes are considered acceptable in a paleo diet, I avoid eating them because they are generally hi GI and convert quickly into glucose which is used as energy for rhe body (instead of stored fat) and which also promotes the release of insulin (in response to the spike in blood sugar) contributing to the storage of excess glucose as additional fat.

    Eat your potato with a protein and a fat. Problem solved...
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    I find eating whole foods - foods I can recognize without refining or high levels of processeing - works well for me. Meats, eggs, nuts, seeds, veggies and some fruit. I add some dairy and legumes (mainly peanuts and snap peas) because I like them. I do feel better without them but I don't want to give up cheese or snap peas.

    I avoid foods made from flours or meals (like almond or coconut) because I tend to over eat them, and because I keep my total carbs low for health reasons. Because of that I also skip naturally occurring sugars like honey or fruits high in sugar.
    sgt1372 wrote: »
    jdlobb wrote: »
    I looked into it, because one of my best friends lost a bunch of weight and got in great shape while on it, but then I read you can't have milk or cheese and was like, thanks but no thanks.

    You can still have cheese and other dairy products, just in moderation.

    It won't be a "strict" paleo diet but it doesn't need to be. I eat a variety of non-paleo approved items on occasion (and sometimes even regularly) w/o any apparent problems. They just don't make up the bulk of my diet.

    I think once you add in dairy, they call it primal.

  • feisty_bucket
    feisty_bucket Posts: 1,047 Member
    edited August 2017
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    I think once you add in dairy, they call it primal.

    Yeah, Mark Sisson's (of Mark's Daily Apple) variant. That's what I mostly eat, about 80%, for many years and am very happy with the approach.

    OP, can you be more specific as to what you're looking for? There's not much to it in general.
  • sgt1372
    sgt1372 Posts: 3,997 Member
    J72FIT wrote: »
    Eat your potato with a protein and a fat. Problem solved...

    So they say and, given my diet that what I do, but I still prefer to avoid potatoes almost entirely.

    At worst, I just sneak a few fries off ny GF's plate. ;)
  • Jruzer
    Jruzer Posts: 3,501 Member
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