For all of us that say it is too hard
Lillymoo01
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Let this woman be your inspiration.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/36879115/melbourne-woman-without-hands-feet-competes-in-bodybuilding-comp/
https://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/36879115/melbourne-woman-without-hands-feet-competes-in-bodybuilding-comp/
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How about no.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspiration_porn
Inspiration porn is the calling of people with disabilities inspirational solely or in part on the basis of their disability.[1][2] The term was coined in 2012 by disability rights activist Stella Young in an editorial in Australian Broadcasting Corporation's webzine Ramp Up.[3]18 -
KurumiSophia wrote: »How about no.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspiration_porn
Inspiration porn is the calling of people with disabilities inspirational solely or in part on the basis of their disability.[1][2] The term was coined in 2012 by disability rights activist Stella Young in an editorial in Australian Broadcasting Corporation's webzine Ramp Up.[3]
So because there is a wiki term , what does that mean? People with disabilities that handle major obstacles are pretty inspirational. And i looked at the link , there is nothing porn about it, she is fully clothed and looks great. Kudos to her! I hope she inspires many many people to take on goals and challenges they would otherwise think they can't.10 -
KurumiSophia wrote: »How about no.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspiration_porn
Inspiration porn is the calling of people with disabilities inspirational solely or in part on the basis of their disability.[1][2] The term was coined in 2012 by disability rights activist Stella Young in an editorial in Australian Broadcasting Corporation's webzine Ramp Up.[3]
Thank you. I actually had a response like this drafted but decided to let it lie. Seriously, I know I'm in a bad mood today but I don't find things like this motivating. I respect the woman's dedication, optimism, and commitment, but in no way do her goals, struggles, and achievements relate to my goals, struggles, and achievements. Nor do they make my struggles any less real.
Also, the article is a straight plug for her go fund me site.
Sorry, rant over.10 -
KurumiSophia wrote: »How about no.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspiration_porn
Inspiration porn is the calling of people with disabilities inspirational solely or in part on the basis of their disability.[1][2] The term was coined in 2012 by disability rights activist Stella Young in an editorial in Australian Broadcasting Corporation's webzine Ramp Up.[3]
So because there is a wiki term , what does that mean? People with disabilities that handle major obstacles are pretty inspirational. And i looked at the link , there is nothing porn about it, she is fully clothed and looks great. Kudos to her! I hope she inspires many many people to take on goals and challenges they would otherwise think they can't.
Your statement "People with disabilities that handle major obstacles are pretty inspirational" is exactly what is meant by term 'inspiration porn'. It has nothing to do with anything prurient.
Are people without disabilities who handle major obstacles pretty inspirational or do you find them too run of the mill to get jazzed about?11 -
KurumiSophia wrote: »How about no.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspiration_porn
Inspiration porn is the calling of people with disabilities inspirational solely or in part on the basis of their disability.[1][2] The term was coined in 2012 by disability rights activist Stella Young in an editorial in Australian Broadcasting Corporation's webzine Ramp Up.[3]
So because there is a wiki term , what does that mean? People with disabilities that handle major obstacles are pretty inspirational. And i looked at the link , there is nothing porn about it, she is fully clothed and looks great. Kudos to her! I hope she inspires many many people to take on goals and challenges they would otherwise think they can't.
It's about treating disabled people as objects for abled people. We are not just things for you to feel good about just for doing the same thing as an abled person. So yes, your post is inspo-porn. It's treating this woman like an object to be held up to be admired for performing an activity that abled people do all the time.
Please read the article I posted amd educate yourself to better coexist with disabled folks.13 -
I find anyone who handles obstacles inspirational, but that isn't what the link in this thread is about. You are very lucky that you don't need to seek inspiration from people with difficult struggles. Not everyone is as lucky as you. And people find their inspiration in what works for them. If what works for someone else doesn't work for you, why criticize it?5
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KurumiSophia wrote: »How about no.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspiration_porn
Inspiration porn is the calling of people with disabilities inspirational solely or in part on the basis of their disability.[1][2] The term was coined in 2012 by disability rights activist Stella Young in an editorial in Australian Broadcasting Corporation's webzine Ramp Up.[3]
So because there is a wiki term , what does that mean? People with disabilities that handle major obstacles are pretty inspirational. And i looked at the link , there is nothing porn about it, she is fully clothed and looks great. Kudos to her! I hope she inspires many many people to take on goals and challenges they would otherwise think they can't.
I could be wrong but I think the "porn" label has more to do with the use of either pictorial/ videography to extract something from the public not what she wears or how she looks pleasing. Again just hazarding a guess, correct me if I'm wrong.
I can only speak for myself, but I refuse to waiver my image for these type of things. I'm a firm believer that inspiration comes from within one selves not from others. You either want it or not.
I hear it all the time on how awesome I am, and a inspiration. My focus is to help people that truly want to achieve goals not inspire or wow others.4 -
so what do you think of the Special Olympics? or other events that promote people with disabilities tackling goals? Should someone with a disability not be able to share their success just because they are disabled? The woman in this link obviously wanted to share her story. Many people will find inspiration in it, i have seen first hand stories like hers inspire children and adults with disabilities.6
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KurumiSophia wrote: »How about no.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspiration_porn
Inspiration porn is the calling of people with disabilities inspirational solely or in part on the basis of their disability.[1][2] The term was coined in 2012 by disability rights activist Stella Young in an editorial in Australian Broadcasting Corporation's webzine Ramp Up.[3]
So now disabled people can't celebrate their achievements just because it makes you feel bad about yourself? No one finds the disability inspirational but find the determination and persistence of the strong person who overcame a disability or found a way to make it work in their favor to be an inspiration. How about we stop telling each other what is okay to share or not share and just let everyone tell their stories? I dare one of you to message the subject of the article and tell her she is objectifying herself. Now THAT would be offensive but I bet a lot of you would have no problem harassing someone to make yourselves feel better. Can't see people achieving things. That might hurt your feels!
The oppression olympics are more offensive than saying "good job" to someone. Sheesh. If the woman felt exploited by the attention, the article would not have been written. People just want to be offended by everything.13 -
I find anyone who handles obstacles inspirational, but that isn't what the link in this thread is about. You are very lucky that you don't need to seek inspiration from people with difficult struggles. Not everyone is as lucky as you. And people find their inspiration in what works for them. If what works for someone else doesn't work for you, why criticize it?
Inspo-porn reduces disabled people like myself to objects which is not OK. So yes, I will give a side eye when I see posts like this.
https://themighty.com/2016/08/how-to-avoid-inspiration-porn-when-talking-about-disability/8 -
KurumiSophia wrote: »How about no.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspiration_porn
Inspiration porn is the calling of people with disabilities inspirational solely or in part on the basis of their disability.[1][2] The term was coined in 2012 by disability rights activist Stella Young in an editorial in Australian Broadcasting Corporation's webzine Ramp Up.[3]
So now disabled people can't celebrate their achievements just because it makes you feel bad about yourself? No one finds the disability inspirational but find the determination and persistence of the strong person who overcame a disability or found a way to make it work in their favor to be an inspiration. How about we stop telling each other what is okay to share or not share and just let everyone tell their stories? I dare one of you to message the subject of the article and tell her she is objectifying herself. Now THAT would be offensive but I bet a lot of you would have no problem harassing someone to make yourselves feel better. Can't see people achieving things. That might hurt your feels!
The oppression olympics are more offensive than saying "good job" to someone. Sheesh. If the woman felt exploited by the attention, the article would not have been written. People just want to be offended by everything.
Again, no. It's about the reduction of disabled people to mere objects for the abled. If it was an abled person, would they get the same accolades for the mere act of being in a bodybuilding competition? Let me answer that, they wouldn't.
It's in the same vein as the stories about the abled person deigning to take a disabled person to prom or let them win a game, etc. It centers the abled while taking the disabled person and making them into an object without feelings or input.6 -
so what do you think of the Special Olympics? or other events that promote people with disabilities tackling goals? Should someone with a disability not be able to share their success just because they are disabled? The woman in this link obviously wanted to share her story. Many people will find inspiration in it, i have seen first hand stories like hers inspire children and adults with disabilities.
The OP wasn't about inspiring other people with disabilities.
Read the thread title again.
I am firmly against using the disabled to fit shame other people. Way to objectify them.
It's not a classy move.10 -
KurumiSophia wrote: »I find anyone who handles obstacles inspirational, but that isn't what the link in this thread is about. You are very lucky that you don't need to seek inspiration from people with difficult struggles. Not everyone is as lucky as you. And people find their inspiration in what works for them. If what works for someone else doesn't work for you, why criticize it?
Inspo-porn reduces disabled people like myself to objects which is not OK. So yes, I will give a side eye when I see posts like this.
https://themighty.com/2016/08/how-to-avoid-inspiration-porn-when-talking-about-disability/
i just read that link, did you read the last line in the article? "Give credit where it’s due, but don’t reduce them to an object of inspiration that is constantly overcoming simply by living their daily life." The girl in the article in the OP is doing a body building competition, i hardly call that living her daily life. Its a bit extraordinary for anyone, let alone someone with a disability and she clearly wants to share her story. So what is the problem? Are disabled people not allowed to share stories of their strength and dedication? Should we go back to keeping anyone different from us hidden away and out of sight so no one gets upset? If you don't want yourself exploited, you can choose to stay out of the spot light. and i'm sorry if other people sharing their achievements makes you uncomfortable or feel like an object , that's on you, not on them.9 -
KurumiSophia wrote: »I find anyone who handles obstacles inspirational, but that isn't what the link in this thread is about. You are very lucky that you don't need to seek inspiration from people with difficult struggles. Not everyone is as lucky as you. And people find their inspiration in what works for them. If what works for someone else doesn't work for you, why criticize it?
Inspo-porn reduces disabled people like myself to objects which is not OK. So yes, I will give a side eye when I see posts like this.
https://themighty.com/2016/08/how-to-avoid-inspiration-porn-when-talking-about-disability/
i just read that link, did you read the last line in the article? "Give credit where it’s due, but don’t reduce them to an object of inspiration that is constantly overcoming simply by living their daily life." The girl in the article in the OP is doing a body building competition, i hardly call that living her daily life. Its a bit extraordinary for anyone, let alone someone with a disability and she clearly wants to share her story. So what is the problem? Are disabled people not allowed to share stories of their strength and dedication? Should we go back to keeping anyone different from us hidden away and out of sight so no one gets upset? If you don't want yourself exploited, you can choose to stay out of the spot light. and i'm sorry if other people sharing their achievements makes you uncomfortable or feel like an object , that's on you, not on them.
You're missing the point.
This thread isn't the athlete in question coming here and sharing her accomplishments.
It's some random internet user posting about that athlete's accomplishments and using them to fit shame other people who "say it's too hard".
She turning the athlete into an object.
That is not cool.6 -
Entering bodybuilding competitions is part of everyday life for abled persons as well. Are you gonna toss them a ticket tape parade? I'm gonna guess not.
What I'm saying is be inspired by someone even without a disability. Holding up a disabled person on a pedestal for something abled folks do all the time is disgusting. That's what I'm calling out.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5877ddf6e4b0e58057fdc342
https://thebodyisnotanapology.com/magazine/explaining-inspiration-porn-to-non-disabled-people/
I have disabilities. I don't expect a cookie every time I accomplish something an abled person does. And I will side-eye if an abled person tries to be all "OMG. You're so inspiring because of your disability." Nope. Be inspired by what I do, not my disabilities.8 -
It's not the "Special Olympics". It the Paralympics. Differently abled athletes. Who get to compete against other differently abled athletes and celebrate their achievements as they see fit. Not have their picture lifted by some random internet person and a quote slapped across it to create an "inspirational" meme. If you go watch them, do it because they're brilliant athletes in their field, not because adversity.
For reasons, I am often called brave or whatever, it makes me uncomfortable as I just feel like I do what I can and have to. And I most certainly don't want to be unknowingly held up as some beacon. "But look, she can do it, so can you!".7 -
KurumiSophia wrote: »How about no.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspiration_porn
Inspiration porn is the calling of people with disabilities inspirational solely or in part on the basis of their disability.[1][2] The term was coined in 2012 by disability rights activist Stella Young in an editorial in Australian Broadcasting Corporation's webzine Ramp Up.[3]
So now disabled people can't celebrate their achievements just because it makes you feel bad about yourself? No one finds the disability inspirational but find the determination and persistence of the strong person who overcame a disability or found a way to make it work in their favor to be an inspiration. How about we stop telling each other what is okay to share or not share and just let everyone tell their stories? I dare one of you to message the subject of the article and tell her she is objectifying herself. Now THAT would be offensive but I bet a lot of you would have no problem harassing someone to make yourselves feel better. Can't see people achieving things. That might hurt your feels!
The oppression olympics are more offensive than saying "good job" to someone. Sheesh. If the woman felt exploited by the attention, the article would not have been written. People just want to be offended by everything.
Read the article. It's an undisguised effort to raise awareness for the subject's go fund me site. She is well aware that she is objectifying herself in the article because she needs the money.4 -
And certainly there's nothing with saying "go her!" as she's presenting her story herself. It becomes problematic when it becomes "see, if she can do it anyone can".6
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KurumiSophia wrote: »How about no.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspiration_porn
Inspiration porn is the calling of people with disabilities inspirational solely or in part on the basis of their disability.[1][2] The term was coined in 2012 by disability rights activist Stella Young in an editorial in Australian Broadcasting Corporation's webzine Ramp Up.[3]
Going to put myself out there and say I never thought of it this way, and I thank you for sharing this. I've been guilty of doing exactly what the OP has done here, though it was not at all unkindly meant - it was purely my own ignorance on the issue. Genuinely appreciate you highlighting this and setting me straight.2 -
KurumiSophia wrote: »How about no.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspiration_porn
Inspiration porn is the calling of people with disabilities inspirational solely or in part on the basis of their disability.[1][2] The term was coined in 2012 by disability rights activist Stella Young in an editorial in Australian Broadcasting Corporation's webzine Ramp Up.[3]
Going to put myself out there and say I never thought of it this way, and I thank you for sharing this. I've been guilty of doing exactly what the OP has done here, though it was not at all unkindly meant - it was purely my own ignorance on the issue. Genuinely appreciate you highlighting this and setting me straight.
You're quite welcome. Honestly, I don't think most abled people think about it due to the societal positioning of disabled people as "other" but that's a discussion for another day.
I'm glad I was able to shed some light on the subject for you.3 -
KurumiSophia wrote: »How about no.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspiration_porn
Inspiration porn is the calling of people with disabilities inspirational solely or in part on the basis of their disability.[1][2] The term was coined in 2012 by disability rights activist Stella Young in an editorial in Australian Broadcasting Corporation's webzine Ramp Up.[3]
So now disabled people can't celebrate their achievements just because it makes you feel bad about yourself? No one finds the disability inspirational but find the determination and persistence of the strong person who overcame a disability or found a way to make it work in their favor to be an inspiration. How about we stop telling each other what is okay to share or not share and just let everyone tell their stories? I dare one of you to message the subject of the article and tell her she is objectifying herself. Now THAT would be offensive but I bet a lot of you would have no problem harassing someone to make yourselves feel better. Can't see people achieving things. That might hurt your feels!
The oppression olympics are more offensive than saying "good job" to someone. Sheesh. If the woman felt exploited by the attention, the article would not have been written. People just want to be offended by everything.
Read the article. It's an undisguised effort to raise awareness for the subject's go fund me site. She is well aware that she is objectifying herself in the article because she needs the money.
So someone with a disability isn't allowed to campaign for donations? Non-disabled people set up gofundme accounts all day long and objectify themselves in all sorts of ways for money. Why does anyone care what she does and how she handles her disability? Its her life, her body, she can do what she wants.5 -
KurumiSophia wrote: »How about no.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspiration_porn
Inspiration porn is the calling of people with disabilities inspirational solely or in part on the basis of their disability.[1][2] The term was coined in 2012 by disability rights activist Stella Young in an editorial in Australian Broadcasting Corporation's webzine Ramp Up.[3]
So now disabled people can't celebrate their achievements just because it makes you feel bad about yourself? No one finds the disability inspirational but find the determination and persistence of the strong person who overcame a disability or found a way to make it work in their favor to be an inspiration. How about we stop telling each other what is okay to share or not share and just let everyone tell their stories? I dare one of you to message the subject of the article and tell her she is objectifying herself. Now THAT would be offensive but I bet a lot of you would have no problem harassing someone to make yourselves feel better. Can't see people achieving things. That might hurt your feels!
The oppression olympics are more offensive than saying "good job" to someone. Sheesh. If the woman felt exploited by the attention, the article would not have been written. People just want to be offended by everything.
Read the article. It's an undisguised effort to raise awareness for the subject's go fund me site. She is well aware that she is objectifying herself in the article because she needs the money.
So someone with a disability isn't allowed to campaign for donations? Non-disabled people set up gofundme accounts all day long and objectify themselves in all sorts of ways for money. Why does anyone care what she does and how she handles her disability? Its her life, her body, she can do what she wants.
It's absolutely fine that the article subject is looking for donations. Nothing wrong with that. I brought up the point in response to a previous post that claimed that the article subject would be offended if any of us messaged her and accused her of objectifying herself.
My response is that she well knows she's objectifying herself. The entire reason for the article is to point people towards her go fund me.1 -
so what do you think of the Special Olympics?
i think they should be FOR the people participating.
to me it's exactly the same dynamic as: why do you lift? so other people can look at you doing it and have an opinion that makes your workout and your life somehow about them, or because you like doing it?
i agree that this kind of thing is icky. doesn't mean there isn't a market for it, or that there aren't people who are comfortable with 'participating' as the objects of it. but i dislike being psychologically blackmailed by 'inspirational' comparisons with other people anyway, so the word itself gives me manipulation-based hives.
and i always want to throat-punch people who want to use me for those purposes, so yeah.0 -
How about we stop telling each other what is okay to share or not share and just let everyone tell their stories?
the actual op's 'story' in this thread was pretty clearly: "look at this woman and use her story for your own purposes. make her story all about you in a way that benefits you. yay!" almost literally.
so it's not about what people can and can't share. it's just that dissenters are taking the time and the trouble to spell out why they dissent from that specific use of the link.
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I really did not expect others to be offended by this, and certainly did not want to offend anyone.. I find anyone who doesn't give up, despite what gets thrown their way an inpiration. Be it a disability or one of any other lifes hurdles. So many times I want to throw in the towel because it all gets too hard. Life seems so unfair. I do not have a disability but I have had to bury two of my children, which has affected me emotionally. Seeing others push through gives me a reason to keep pushing to reach my goals. It gives me a reason to get up every day and keep living.3
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