Question: Sugar grams

lemurcat12

If you track calories, protein, carbs, fat, and fiber and focus on eating a healthful diet -- as people were saying -- how do you end up eating excessive added sugar? And how does tracking "sugar" (which includes sugar from fruit, veg, and dairy) help one limit added sugar from lower nutrient foods? It does not. What does is the kind of advice others have given about watching their overall diets, and thus I do not know what you are going on about.

emailmehere1122

I wasn't going on...people were asking me why I singled out fructose, which I have explained as plainly as I can above. I don't recall saying tracking sugar helps one limit added sugar
Here's another one you can get wound up about...if you drink milk and you vomit or have excess loose stools you might want to watch out for a sugar called lactose

Carlos_421

emailmehere1122 wrote: »

I wasn't going on...people were asking me why I singled out fructose, which I have explained as plainly as I can above. I don't recall saying tracking sugar helps one limit added sugar
Here's another one you can get wound up about...if you drink milk and you vomit or have excess loose stools you might want to watch out for a sugar called lactose

earlnabby

emailmehere1122 wrote: »

I guess I was mistaken...I didn't know webmd was someone's opinion I thought it was medical fact. The op was asking about cutting back on sugar and people were saying even someone with diabetes doesn't need to worry about sugar which I thought was crazy but ok

I am the one who said that, and what I actually said was that most T2 diabetics not on insulin do not need to separate sugar from their total carbs. They still have to watch carbs as a group.

T1 and T2 on insulin DO have to watch sugar as well as total carbs because the amount of total sugar (not just added sugar) affects their dosage.

Yes, I am T2Dm (in remission) and I got this information straight from both my PCP, who is a Certified Diabetic Educator) and the RD I consulted

emailmehere1122

And I am still shocked you don't have to look at sugar grams...I don't doubt you and I did leave out the word grams so excuse me for misquoting
Congratulations on getting your diabetes into remission...hope you are sharing how you did that with the people that need to know

lemurcat12

emailmehere1122 wrote: »

I wasn't going on...people were asking me why I singled out fructose, which I have explained as plainly as I can above.

Based on what appears to be a misunderstanding, namely that fructose is present in HFCS (55% fructose) in much higher percentages than in sucrose or fruit. (Although the added sugar I eat is basically all sucrose anyway, and as I said way above I do watch it, but the MFP sugar tracker includes ALL sugar, so is not the most useful way of doing that.)

Also, while large doses of fructose (which someone eating a healthful overall diet does not have to worry about) are one of the things that can be harmful to the liver, that doesn't mean that fructose is bad and glucose is good (even if we ever consumed them separately, which we don't). Glucose causes the dreaded (joking) blood sugar spikes that people are always warning about, while fructose apparently does not (it has a low GI).

I don't recall saying tracking sugar helps one limit added sugar

You are claiming that the advice given has been bad advice. If you think a particular post is inaccurate, why not address it? Rather than generalizing inaccurately about the prior advice, that is.

Here's another one you can get wound up about...if you drink milk and you vomit or have excess loose stools you might want to watch out for a sugar called lactose

Yes, lactose intolerance is quite common, although less so with people of northern and western European backgrounds. That's hardly the same thing as going on about fructose being bad in any dose or claiming added sugar inherently has way more fructose than fruit, neither of which is true.

janejellyroll

emailmehere1122 wrote: »

I wasn't going on...people were asking me why I singled out fructose, which I have explained as plainly as I can above. I don't recall saying tracking sugar helps one limit added sugar
Here's another one you can get wound up about...if you drink milk and you vomit or have excess loose stools you might want to watch out for a sugar called lactose

Yes, some people are lactose intolerant. I have no idea how this is related to your claims about sugar or is even relevant to people who tolerate lactose well.

earlnabby

emailmehere1122 wrote: »

And I am still shocked you don't have to look at sugar grams...I don't doubt you and I did leave out the word grams so excuse me for misquoting
Congratulations on getting your diabetes into remission...hope you are sharing how you did that with the people that need to know

That is one of many misconceptions about diabetes. It isn't all about sugar, it is about blood glucose. Carbs get turned into glucose for energy. Sugar (in all its forms) gets turned into glucose the fastest which is why those on insulin need to know the amount of total sugar in addition to carbs in general are in a meal so they can calculate how much insulin they need to prevent too high of a glucose spike. T2 diabetics not using insulin look more to averages rather than a single point in time. One spike isn't an issue. Prolonged average high numbers are an issue.

Yes, I do mention how I am managing my diabetes whenever it can contribute to a conversation or answer questions. I keep below a maximum of 160 grams of carbs per day and I exercise (swimming laps 3 x a week and walking on the other days). Essentially, that is it. Losing weight has been the biggest contributor.