1cup of fruit= all m sugar for the day??
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CWShultz27105 wrote: »@aeloine Hold on......chicken that did not taste like 'chicken'? The heck you say! I thought that everything tastes like 'chicken'!
MY chicken was chicken. MFP chicken was more like salt water fish
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I swapped out Sugar and Sodium for Fiber and Iron.2
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It's not irrelevant. If you ate a non healthy food, you'd want to know if it blew your sugar for the day. You'll learn good and bad sugar and not put too much weight on the better kind.
I'm not sure what your idea of a non healthy food is, but let's say it did put a person over their sugar goal for the day, why would that matter? If they are under total calories for the day and eating a variety of foods, what would it effect?
Also, what are good and bad sugars? Your body doesn't know the difference, they are all processed via the same biochemical pathways.8 -
Yes I agree with the others, I switched mine to counting fiber and sodium because those make a difference in my daily life (constipation, water weight, etc)1
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That seems like a lot of sugar for just strawberries and pineapple as strawberries are actually quite low in sugar content. I'd weigh your fruit individually to get a more accurate log, not so much for sugar content (recommendations of maximum sugar amounts a day excludes sugar found naturally in foods like fruit and dairy) but for accurate calories consumed.0
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WinoGelato wrote: »It's not irrelevant. If you ate a non healthy food, you'd want to know if it blew your sugar for the day. You'll learn good and bad sugar and not put too much weight on the better kind.
I'm not sure what your idea of a non healthy food is, but let's say it did put a person over their sugar goal for the day, why would that matter? If they are under total calories for the day and eating a variety of foods, what would it effect?
Also, what are good and bad sugars? Your body doesn't know the difference, they are all processed via the same biochemical pathways.
If you are going to put 50grams if sugar in your body, you can do it via fruit or a cupcake. Yes, as long as both fit into your calories, so be it. But from a nutritional standpoint, consuming that sugar from fruits versus a cupcake is more beneficial. Make what you consume count, that's what I was getting to.5 -
WinoGelato wrote: »It's not irrelevant. If you ate a non healthy food, you'd want to know if it blew your sugar for the day. You'll learn good and bad sugar and not put too much weight on the better kind.
I'm not sure what your idea of a non healthy food is, but let's say it did put a person over their sugar goal for the day, why would that matter? If they are under total calories for the day and eating a variety of foods, what would it effect?
Also, what are good and bad sugars? Your body doesn't know the difference, they are all processed via the same biochemical pathways.
If you are going to put 50grams if sugar in your body, you can do it via fruit or a cupcake. Yes, as long as both fit into your calories, so be it. But from a nutritional standpoint, consuming that sugar from fruits versus a cupcake is more beneficial. Make what you consume count, that's what I was getting to.
not really - your body metabolizes the sugar the same way regardless of how you ingest it (fruit/cupcake/vegetables etc)7 -
deannalfisher wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »It's not irrelevant. If you ate a non healthy food, you'd want to know if it blew your sugar for the day. You'll learn good and bad sugar and not put too much weight on the better kind.
I'm not sure what your idea of a non healthy food is, but let's say it did put a person over their sugar goal for the day, why would that matter? If they are under total calories for the day and eating a variety of foods, what would it effect?
Also, what are good and bad sugars? Your body doesn't know the difference, they are all processed via the same biochemical pathways.
If you are going to put 50grams if sugar in your body, you can do it via fruit or a cupcake. Yes, as long as both fit into your calories, so be it. But from a nutritional standpoint, consuming that sugar from fruits versus a cupcake is more beneficial. Make what you consume count, that's what I was getting to.
no really - your body metabolizes the sugar the same way regardless of how you ingest it
So you disagree with what I said above? You believe that nutritional value in fruit is the same as a cupcake, so long as both have the same amount of sugar?1 -
if you are comparing sugar to sugar then yes - all sugar is broken down to its simplest form to be digested - in fact, a cupcake could have protein/fat as part of the calorie make-up which would make it potentially a more rounded option than just straight fruit8
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WinoGelato wrote: »It's not irrelevant. If you ate a non healthy food, you'd want to know if it blew your sugar for the day. You'll learn good and bad sugar and not put too much weight on the better kind.
I'm not sure what your idea of a non healthy food is, but let's say it did put a person over their sugar goal for the day, why would that matter? If they are under total calories for the day and eating a variety of foods, what would it effect?
Also, what are good and bad sugars? Your body doesn't know the difference, they are all processed via the same biochemical pathways.
If you are going to put 50grams if sugar in your body, you can do it via fruit or a cupcake. Yes, as long as both fit into your calories, so be it. But from a nutritional standpoint, consuming that sugar from fruits versus a cupcake is more beneficial. Make what you consume count, that's what I was getting to.
That doesn't actually make sense - the nutrition in fruit and cupcakes is different but the sugar is the same and your body doesn't know what it comes packaged with.
Far better to think in terms of overall diet than individual foods, both fruit and cupcakes can be part of that diet. Neither is intrinsically good or bad and people do actually eat both, choosing one doesn't mean excluding the other.7 -
deannalfisher wrote: »if you are comparing sugar to sugar then yes - all sugar is broken down to its simplest form to be digested - in fact, a cupcake could have protein/fat as part of the calorie make-up which would make it potentially a more rounded option than just straight fruit
I love these discussions about sugar, but even for MFP this is hysterical --- now a cupcake isn't just equal it's nutritionally a better choice?!?! lol.7 -
JasmineDiver22 wrote: »@Ready2Rock206
Nope no reason. I was just curious about why it notifies me for irrelevant things like that, if they shouldn't matter apparently. Should I just not even worry
It matters to some is why is it’s showing you. But you can choose what is tracked since you aren’t concerned with sugar.0 -
deannalfisher wrote: »if you are comparing sugar to sugar then yes - all sugar is broken down to its simplest form to be digested - in fact, a cupcake could have protein/fat as part of the calorie make-up which would make it potentially a more rounded option than just straight fruit
I respectfully disagree that one should eat a cupcake over fresh fruit bc a cupcake has fat and protein in it. If the masses here want to agree that there is as much of a nutritional benefit in eatting a cupcake with 50 grams of sugar versus fruit with 50 grams of sugar, then I'll eat crow. We are talking nutritional value in the delivery method of that 50 grams. We agree that 50 grams is 50 grams. We disagree that a cupcake is comparably nutritional to fruit. You can eat 1500 cals from cupcakes and meet your calorie goal. Nutritionally speaking, you can eat 1500 cals of other non refined foods, hit same sugar and be putting better food in your body. A cupcake won't kill anyone and shouldn't be on the no fly list, but it's not the same as eating fruits simply because they might contain the same amount of sugar.10 -
Sugar is sugar is the end .. just like calories are calories, you can eat 500 calories worth of raw veggies or 500 worth of McDonald’s, you ate them either way. Yes the veggies are healthier but it’s about a calorie deficit for a lot of people. Water is water, ice mountain or evian.. just drink it, they both have 0 cals.5
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WinoGelato wrote: »It's not irrelevant. If you ate a non healthy food, you'd want to know if it blew your sugar for the day. You'll learn good and bad sugar and not put too much weight on the better kind.
I'm not sure what your idea of a non healthy food is, but let's say it did put a person over their sugar goal for the day, why would that matter? If they are under total calories for the day and eating a variety of foods, what would it effect?
Also, what are good and bad sugars? Your body doesn't know the difference, they are all processed via the same biochemical pathways.
If you are going to put 50grams if sugar in your body, you can do it via fruit or a cupcake. Yes, as long as both fit into your calories, so be it. But from a nutritional standpoint, consuming that sugar from fruits versus a cupcake is more beneficial. Make what you consume count, that's what I was getting to.
That doesn't actually make sense - the nutrition in fruit and cupcakes is different but the sugar is the same and your body doesn't know what it comes packaged with.
Far better to think in terms of overall diet than individual foods, both fruit and cupcakes can be part of that diet. Neither is intrinsically good or bad and people do actually eat both, choosing one doesn't mean excluding the other.
I've already agreed that equal sugar is equal sugar. The debate here is that eatting a cupcake is equally as nutritional as eating the same sugars of fruit. Balance is required.0 -
dawn_westbury wrote: »Sugar is sugar is the end .. just like calories are calories, you can eat 500 calories worth of raw veggies or 500 worth of McDonald’s, you ate them either way. Yes the veggies are healthier but it’s about a calorie deficit for a lot of people. Water is water, ice mountain or evian.. just drink it, they both have 0 cals.
Agreed. It's about deficit. There will be a greater chance of being satisfied off x amount of cals of a balanced diet then x of McDonald's, thus helping your chances of sticking with the diet. Make the cals work in your favor if you only have x to work with.5 -
JasmineDiver22 wrote: »It was pineapple and strawberries
Swap out sugar tracking for something more useful - like fiber. You don't need to worry about sugar unless you have a medical condition, or it's so high, it crowding out other important nutritional requirements.1 -
I've already agreed that equal sugar is equal sugar. The debate here is that eatting a cupcake is equally as nutritional as eating the same sugars of fruit. Balance is required.
Perhaps you missed the word "potentially" in @deannalfisher 's post? If pretty much all a person was eating was fruit, then the fat and protein in the cupcake could be important in the context of the overall diet. Of course one could choose other sources of those macros, but I believe the point is that a cupcake isn't "bad for you" (barring allergies).
No one is suggesting that anybody eat only fruit or only cupcakes. Like you said, balance is required.4 -
WinoGelato wrote: »It's not irrelevant. If you ate a non healthy food, you'd want to know if it blew your sugar for the day. You'll learn good and bad sugar and not put too much weight on the better kind.
I'm not sure what your idea of a non healthy food is, but let's say it did put a person over their sugar goal for the day, why would that matter? If they are under total calories for the day and eating a variety of foods, what would it effect?
Also, what are good and bad sugars? Your body doesn't know the difference, they are all processed via the same biochemical pathways.
If you are going to put 50grams if sugar in your body, you can do it via fruit or a cupcake. Yes, as long as both fit into your calories, so be it. But from a nutritional standpoint, consuming that sugar from fruits versus a cupcake is more beneficial. Make what you consume count, that's what I was getting to.
That doesn't actually make sense - the nutrition in fruit and cupcakes is different but the sugar is the same and your body doesn't know what it comes packaged with.
Far better to think in terms of overall diet than individual foods, both fruit and cupcakes can be part of that diet. Neither is intrinsically good or bad and people do actually eat both, choosing one doesn't mean excluding the other.
I've already agreed that equal sugar is equal sugar. The debate here is that eatting a cupcake is equally as nutritional as eating the same sugars of fruit. Balance is required.
No that's your spin on it. Read my post again, I actually said they are different so we agree on that point.
No-one is saying they are the same nutritionally.
No-one is saying always choose cupcakes ahead of fruit (I don't even like them BTW - but I do eat a lot of fruit.)
They are different foods - different doesn't mean better or worse without context to an overall diet.
If someone has eaten a whole stack of fruit already that day and is short of fat or protein (for example) then more fruit would be be a poor choice.
Could well be that a cupcake would also a poor choice that particular day...
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Comparing a muffin with an apple, for the same weight you are getting five times the calories with the muffin. You are also getting more fat, sodium, protein, and iron. The apple is getting you marginally more sugar and all your vitamin C.
It's not an apple-vs-apple comparison. Muffins are a different food source with a different profile. Both fit in a balanced diet.5
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