Anyone doing/done intermittent fasting?
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For fear of being face slapped with citation requests and bowel movement logs, I thought I might chime in with my experience
I've been on MFP since the dawn of time and I really do think I have tried every weight loss method known to man. And yes, CICO is what it all boils down to. And it's clearly what I have trouble with seeing as in about 9 years I'm only 10kgs (22lbs) down from my highest weight!
After mucho research (alas I did not track, date and time stamp every word I read/watched on the subject so unfortunately I can't provide you with the appropriate bibliography (see also: CBA)), however it was enough to make think it was worth a shot - even for just the psychological effect of a shortened eating window and thus less likely to go over my daily calorie goal.
So for the past two and a half weeks I have been doing a mix of 16/8 and OMAD (one meal a day), and I really do love it!
So far pros have been:- When I take my first bite of food for that day - oh my, food never tasted so good!
- Actual enjoyable, fairly calorie dense meals instead of wasted calories on snacks, breakfast etc
- I really do feel more alert and awake during the day
- Staying within my calorie goals is so, so much easier
- I can still socialise at meal times, go for drinks etc - just need to adjust my eating window
- Saving money on food!
- Not having to plan so many meals
- Lost over 1kg in two weeks
And cons- When hunger pangs hit, they hit - and there's no pattern to it
- Bowel movement has been ahem, somewhat lacking (although my new medicine for this is a healthy handful of prunes!
- On OMAD days, it just feels odd not having lunch in my lunch hour
- I have been feeling really tired in the evenings this week, might be related, might not be
I hope that is of some help to those who are thinking of giving it a go. I personally get very bored with eating plans, so this lets me mix things up a bit and gives me a daily mini challenge - good for self esteem too!1 -
I've lost 48-lbs doing a 20:4 IF diet and have kept it off for a year (maintenance was a 16:8 diet with a big salad for lunch). Way easier for me to not eat at all and not awaken the beast than to eat and awaken the beast. I don't get that hungry tell the last couple of hours of the fast. And, I eat tell full each evening and graze as I please after that. I need to get full and not want to eat anymore for a diet to be sustainable for me and this diet does that for me. Whatever works do it, but this has worked really well for me. It is very liberating to not have to fix breakfast before I go to work or pack lunches either. And I've save a lot of money not eating lunches and snacking in the afternoons! If hunger pangs get bad, you can kill them with 1/2 tsp of coconut oil (lasts over an hour for me). I haven't had to do that for a long time.4
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moon_light_owl wrote: »I tryed it but , it's to hard .
It was hard for me the first time around also.0 -
moon_light_owl wrote: »I tryed it but , it's to hard .
It was hard for me the first time around also.
How long did you try to go? You can grow into it over time. Start at a fast length that isn't hard and slowly work into a longer duration. I find it much easier than eating a small meal and then trying to stop eating. Whatever works though (that's healthy).0 -
For fear of being face slapped with citation requests and bowel movement logs, I thought I might chime in with my experience
I've been on MFP since the dawn of time and I really do think I have tried every weight loss method known to man. And yes, CICO is what it all boils down to. And it's clearly what I have trouble with seeing as in about 9 years I'm only 10kgs (22lbs) down from my highest weight!
After mucho research (alas I did not track, date and time stamp every word I read/watched on the subject so unfortunately I can't provide you with the appropriate bibliography (see also: CBA)), however it was enough to make think it was worth a shot - even for just the psychological effect of a shortened eating window and thus less likely to go over my daily calorie goal.
So for the past two and a half weeks I have been doing a mix of 16/8 and OMAD (one meal a day), and I really do love it!
So far pros have been:- When I take my first bite of food for that day - oh my, food never tasted so good!
- Actual enjoyable, fairly calorie dense meals instead of wasted calories on snacks, breakfast etc
- I really do feel more alert and awake during the day
- Staying within my calorie goals is so, so much easier
- I can still socialise at meal times, go for drinks etc - just need to adjust my eating window
- Saving money on food!
- Not having to plan so many meals
- Lost over 1kg in two weeks
And cons- When hunger pangs hit, they hit - and there's no pattern to it
- Bowel movement has been ahem, somewhat lacking (although my new medicine for this is a healthy handful of prunes!
- On OMAD days, it just feels odd not having lunch in my lunch hour
- I have been feeling really tired in the evenings this week, might be related, might not be
I hope that is of some help to those who are thinking of giving it a go. I personally get very bored with eating plans, so this lets me mix things up a bit and gives me a daily mini challenge - good for self esteem too!
Thanks for your post! It made my day lol. Yes, I'm learning some people take the information you share a little too seriously. I'm just using this for fun, positivity, and encouragement! Your pros and cons are so me!! I couldn't do one meal a day. That would be so hard!!0 -
I've lost 48-lbs doing a 20:4 IF diet and have kept it off for a year (maintenance was a 16:8 diet with a big salad for lunch). Way easier for me to not eat at all and not awaken the beast than to eat and awaken the beast. I don't get that hungry tell the last couple of hours of the fast. And, I eat tell full each evening and graze as I please after that. I need to get full and not want to eat anymore for a diet to be sustainable for me and this diet does that for me. Whatever works do it, but this has worked really well for me. It is very liberating to not have to fix breakfast before I go to work or pack lunches either. And I've save a lot of money not eating lunches and snacking in the afternoons! If hunger pangs get bad, you can kill them with 1/2 tsp of coconut oil (lasts over an hour for me). I haven't had to do that for a long time.
48 pounds?? Wow that is amazing! Way to go! Thanks for sharing your story and tips : )0 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »actually TeaBea isnt a troll(I dont know her personally just from here).she's been here longer than I have most likely.but it is true there are many factors that can improve blood tests. I have noticed that in the last year or so just in my experience. but that doesnt mean what I do or did will work for others. as for youtubers I noticed a lot of them do tend to be full of crap when it comes to health info and they too spread a lot of bull or old broscience. a few of them are trainers too.
To each their own! All I know is IF works for me. I don't care about the logistics lol. What works for one, may not work for others. What doesn't work for one, may work for someone else. I agree to disagree with miss teabea.
Im not saying IF doesnt help people to stick to their calorie deficits or anything like that. but IF in and of itself is not a cure all and Im just saying that health markers can improve in some with just weight loss,a change in diet,and so on. you dont have to do IF to improve health issues. do IF because it helps you to not overeat or because it works on your time schedule or whatever may be. we all know what works for one may not work for another,but a calorie deficit works for everyone,how you get there is each individuals choice.1 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »actually TeaBea isnt a troll(I dont know her personally just from here).she's been here longer than I have most likely.but it is true there are many factors that can improve blood tests. I have noticed that in the last year or so just in my experience. but that doesnt mean what I do or did will work for others. as for youtubers I noticed a lot of them do tend to be full of crap when it comes to health info and they too spread a lot of bull or old broscience. a few of them are trainers too.
To each their own! All I know is IF works for me. I don't care about the logistics lol. What works for one, may not work for others. What doesn't work for one, may work for someone else. I agree to disagree with miss teabea.
Im not saying IF doesnt help people to stick to their calorie deficits or anything like that. but IF in and of itself is not a cure all and Im just saying that health markers can improve in some with just weight loss,a change in diet,and so on. you dont have to do IF to improve health issues. do IF because it helps you to not overeat or because it works on your time schedule or whatever may be. we all know what works for one may not work for another,but a calorie deficit works for everyone,how you get there is each individuals choice.
I agree. Every individual needs to find a healthy lifrstyle that works for that particular individual and then stick with it! Every person should definitely check with their healthcare provider before making any big changes to their lifestyle. I am diabetic, so I have to tweak things personally for me, to make sure my blood sugar levels are regulated.0 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »actually TeaBea isnt a troll(I dont know her personally just from here).she's been here longer than I have most likely.but it is true there are many factors that can improve blood tests. I have noticed that in the last year or so just in my experience. but that doesnt mean what I do or did will work for others. as for youtubers I noticed a lot of them do tend to be full of crap when it comes to health info and they too spread a lot of bull or old broscience. a few of them are trainers too.
To each their own! All I know is IF works for me. I don't care about the logistics lol. What works for one, may not work for others. What doesn't work for one, may work for someone else. I agree to disagree with miss teabea.
Im not saying IF doesnt help people to stick to their calorie deficits or anything like that. but IF in and of itself is not a cure all and Im just saying that health markers can improve in some with just weight loss,a change in diet,and so on. you dont have to do IF to improve health issues. do IF because it helps you to not overeat or because it works on your time schedule or whatever may be. we all know what works for one may not work for another,but a calorie deficit works for everyone,how you get there is each individuals choice.
I agree. Every individual needs to find a healthy lifrstyle that works for that particular individual and then stick with it! Every person should definitely check with their healthcare provider before making any big changes to their lifestyle. I am diabetic, so I have to tweak things personally for me, to make sure my blood sugar levels are regulated.
I totally get that.1 -
I have been IF for more than 1 month and must say it was hard at first but my stomach and body have gotten use to it. I take BCAA with Caffeine and Yohmbine HC1 to help from losing muscle and to help burn more fat. I finally have my 6 pack and look great. to those who are doing it...keep it up it will be easier the more you do it.
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Hi, yes I watched dr jason fung lectures on youtube, and a few other videos there. Like you i like breakfast, so i eat about 8am to 4pm, after 2 months i am so used to it i really dont think about eating in evening. Sometimes i get a bit hungry in the evening, but when i wake up i am not very hungry! I guess the hunger is fake somehow.
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Hey guys i have a question.so i just started IF.doing 16:8. Stop eating at 8:30 pm and then eat at 12:30 pm the next day. Would you consider chewing gum breaking your fast? Im only on day 2 so i know itll take a little bit for my body to get used to it and gum helps my hunger0
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Hey guys i have a question.so i just started IF.doing 16:8. Stop eating at 8:30 pm and then eat at 12:30 pm the next day. Would you consider chewing gum breaking your fast? Im only on day 2 so i know itll take a little bit for my body to get used to it and gum helps my hunger
Sugar free gum is fine
I find Lemon & Ginger tea great for suppressing hunger.1 -
works for me0
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Works like a charm for me while cutting.
You can see the results here.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10511781/fat-to-fit-6-packs-just-2-inspire/p10 -
rajeshvvcool wrote: »Works like a charm for me while cutting.
You can see the results here.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10511781/fat-to-fit-6-packs-just-2-inspire/p1
Wow! Excellent results! Great work
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Ok, so just my 2c here. Look up Dr. Jason Fung. He's done lots of work with type 2 diabetic people and fasting. Look him up for good reading, and some video.3
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JustaJoe00 wrote: »Ok, so just my 2c here. Look up Dr. Jason Fung. He's done lots of work with type 2 diabetic people and fasting. Look him up for good reading, and some video.
fung is a quack when it comes to diets/ways of eating,etc. he even stated that a person(whom was a study participant) with an A1C of 6.5 did NOT need insulin and that diet/fasting alone would help. he has told people to stop taking their insulin and to follow his diet. not very safe to do. it should be lowered by a dr once you need less of it. not stop it cold turkey. fung is a kidney dr nothing more. fasting alone is not a cure for diabetes and telling someone they dont need insulin?3 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »JustaJoe00 wrote: »Ok, so just my 2c here. Look up Dr. Jason Fung. He's done lots of work with type 2 diabetic people and fasting. Look him up for good reading, and some video.
fung is a quack when it comes to diets/ways of eating,etc. he even stated that a person(whom was a study participant) with an A1C of 6.5 did NOT need insulin and that diet/fasting alone would help. he has told people to stop taking their insulin and to follow his diet. not very safe to do. it should be lowered by a dr once you need less of it. not stop it cold turkey. fung is a kidney dr nothing more. fasting alone is not a cure for diabetes and telling someone they dont need insulin?
I totally disagree....to each his own.4 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »JustaJoe00 wrote: »Ok, so just my 2c here. Look up Dr. Jason Fung. He's done lots of work with type 2 diabetic people and fasting. Look him up for good reading, and some video.
fung is a quack when it comes to diets/ways of eating,etc. he even stated that a person(whom was a study participant) with an A1C of 6.5 did NOT need insulin and that diet/fasting alone would help. he has told people to stop taking their insulin and to follow his diet. not very safe to do. it should be lowered by a dr once you need less of it. not stop it cold turkey. fung is a kidney dr nothing more. fasting alone is not a cure for diabetes and telling someone they dont need insulin?
It has cured many type II diabetics from what I've read. Fasting = low insulin = more insulin sensitivity = less type II diabetes. That's how I understand it. Low carb does the same thing.4 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »JustaJoe00 wrote: »Ok, so just my 2c here. Look up Dr. Jason Fung. He's done lots of work with type 2 diabetic people and fasting. Look him up for good reading, and some video.
fung is a quack when it comes to diets/ways of eating,etc. he even stated that a person(whom was a study participant) with an A1C of 6.5 did NOT need insulin and that diet/fasting alone would help. he has told people to stop taking their insulin and to follow his diet. not very safe to do. it should be lowered by a dr once you need less of it. not stop it cold turkey. fung is a kidney dr nothing more. fasting alone is not a cure for diabetes and telling someone they dont need insulin?
It has cured many type II diabetics from what I've read. Fasting = low insulin = more insulin sensitivity = less type II diabetes. That's how I understand it. Low carb does the same thing.
you dont cure diabetes. you go into a remission type thing. weight loss alone can cause someone to reverse diabetes. low carb can work to control insulin sure. but for most people diabetes was brought on by becoming overweight/obese or an underlying health issue. it can also be caused by genetics.
There are many diabetic here who do low carb and many who dont. many of them will tell you losing weight alone helped with insulin levels. There are no guarantees that low carb or fasting will help reverse diabetes alone. some people may still need insulin and even thin people can have type 2 diabetes. . once you gain weight back you can end up with diabetes again. it doesnt go away you just control it. for some fasting can cause hypoglycemia and other issues.1 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »JustaJoe00 wrote: »Ok, so just my 2c here. Look up Dr. Jason Fung. He's done lots of work with type 2 diabetic people and fasting. Look him up for good reading, and some video.
fung is a quack when it comes to diets/ways of eating,etc. he even stated that a person(whom was a study participant) with an A1C of 6.5 did NOT need insulin and that diet/fasting alone would help. he has told people to stop taking their insulin and to follow his diet. not very safe to do. it should be lowered by a dr once you need less of it. not stop it cold turkey. fung is a kidney dr nothing more. fasting alone is not a cure for diabetes and telling someone they dont need insulin?
It has cured many type II diabetics from what I've read. Fasting = low insulin = more insulin sensitivity = less type II diabetes. That's how I understand it. Low carb does the same thing.
you dont cure diabetes. you go into a remission type thing. weight loss alone can cause someone to reverse diabetes. low carb can work to control insulin sure. but for most people diabetes was brought on by becoming overweight/obese or an underlying health issue. it can also be caused by genetics.
There are many diabetic here who do low carb and many who dont. many of them will tell you losing weight alone helped with insulin levels. There are no guarantees that low carb or fasting will help reverse diabetes alone. some people may still need insulin and even thin people can have type 2 diabetes. . once you gain weight back you can end up with diabetes again. it doesnt go away you just control it. for some fasting can cause hypoglycemia and other issues.
If the cause of the type II is insulin resistance and you fix the insulin resistance, wouldn't that be a cure? Either way the problem can be fixed for some by becoming more insulin sensitive.2 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »JustaJoe00 wrote: »Ok, so just my 2c here. Look up Dr. Jason Fung. He's done lots of work with type 2 diabetic people and fasting. Look him up for good reading, and some video.
fung is a quack when it comes to diets/ways of eating,etc. he even stated that a person(whom was a study participant) with an A1C of 6.5 did NOT need insulin and that diet/fasting alone would help. he has told people to stop taking their insulin and to follow his diet. not very safe to do. it should be lowered by a dr once you need less of it. not stop it cold turkey. fung is a kidney dr nothing more. fasting alone is not a cure for diabetes and telling someone they dont need insulin?
It has cured many type II diabetics from what I've read. Fasting = low insulin = more insulin sensitivity = less type II diabetes. That's how I understand it. Low carb does the same thing.
you dont cure diabetes. you go into a remission type thing. weight loss alone can cause someone to reverse diabetes. low carb can work to control insulin sure. but for most people diabetes was brought on by becoming overweight/obese or an underlying health issue. it can also be caused by genetics.
There are many diabetic here who do low carb and many who dont. many of them will tell you losing weight alone helped with insulin levels. There are no guarantees that low carb or fasting will help reverse diabetes alone. some people may still need insulin and even thin people can have type 2 diabetes. . once you gain weight back you can end up with diabetes again. it doesnt go away you just control it. for some fasting can cause hypoglycemia and other issues.
If the cause of the type II is insulin resistance and you fix the insulin resistance, wouldn't that be a cure? Either way the problem can be fixed for some by becoming more insulin sensitive.
you can treat it but you cant cure it. curing it would mean that once you got it down to where you no longer needed meds and so on and went back to your old ways that caused it in the first place it would be cured. but it can come back. not to mention if its genetics causing it you cannot change your genetics so no you cant cure it. type 2 means you make too much insulin. type one means they dont make enough.not to mention that diabetes can cause all sorts of issues and damage if left untreated which a lot of that damage isnt reversible.
insulin resistance can also be caused by other health issues too. there are many here like I said that helped reversed their diabetes alone with weight loss and a change in diet who dont fast or have never fasted. so explain then how that happened for them if they werent doing the magic fasting?
this study doesnt say anything about fasting to help these health issues https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/diabetes/overview/what-is-diabetes/prediabetes-insulin-resistance0 -
I never have because there is no real point to IF unless it helps a person stay in a favorable caloric deficit. I can accomplish this just fine without starving myself all day. IF is nothing but a timing schedule, and timing has no effect on weight loss or gain.1
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JustRobby1 wrote: »I never have because there is no real point to IF unless it helps a person stay in a favorable caloric deficit. I can accomplish this just fine without starving myself all day. IF is nothing but a timing schedule, and timing has no effect on weight loss or gain.
I guess it's the placebo effect or something, because it works for me better than anything else has before. I really enjoy it! Plus, I don't have to starve myself. I eat from 7a.m-3p.m every day so it doesn't feel like I'm skipping a meal. My last big meal is right at 3 so I stay satisfied the rest of the evening. I get hungry at bed time, then just sleep it off. It is true, weight loss is creating a calorie deficit. As long as you have a caloric deficit you lose weight no matter the timing. For some reason IF helps me stay accountable to have a cut off time. I used to snack all evening, but now I know I'm done eating at 3p.m.0 -
JustRobby1 wrote: »I never have because there is no real point to IF unless it helps a person stay in a favorable caloric deficit. I can accomplish this just fine without starving myself all day. IF is nothing but a timing schedule, and timing has no effect on weight loss or gain.
I guess it's the placebo effect or something, because it works for me better than anything else has before. I really enjoy it! Plus, I don't have to starve myself. I eat from 7a.m-3p.m every day so it doesn't feel like I'm skipping a meal. My last big meal is right at 3 so I stay satisfied the rest of the evening. I get hungry at bed time, then just sleep it off. It is true, weight loss is creating a calorie deficit. As long as you have a caloric deficit you lose weight no matter the timing. For some reason IF helps me stay accountable to have a cut off time. I used to snack all evening, but now I know I'm done eating at 3p.m.
It "works" for you in the same way any diet plan does. If it produces a calorie deficit, you lose weight. There is nothing magic or mysterious about it.
The only time I ever do something remotely similar is on days when I know I have a big pig out planned since I do not really do "cheat days". Most recently on the day I had my fantasy football draft I had nothing but a couple of protein bars all day. But when I got to Buffalo Wild Wings later on that night, it was on like Donkey Kong.
So long as you have found something that works for you, wonderful, but it is not wise to have false beliefs about IF or any other dieting fad. This is because most of them are not sustainable long term so at some point you are going to have to deal with the reality that calories are what controls weight, not timing.0 -
JustRobby1 wrote: »JustRobby1 wrote: »I never have because there is no real point to IF unless it helps a person stay in a favorable caloric deficit. I can accomplish this just fine without starving myself all day. IF is nothing but a timing schedule, and timing has no effect on weight loss or gain.
I guess it's the placebo effect or something, because it works for me better than anything else has before. I really enjoy it! Plus, I don't have to starve myself. I eat from 7a.m-3p.m every day so it doesn't feel like I'm skipping a meal. My last big meal is right at 3 so I stay satisfied the rest of the evening. I get hungry at bed time, then just sleep it off. It is true, weight loss is creating a calorie deficit. As long as you have a caloric deficit you lose weight no matter the timing. For some reason IF helps me stay accountable to have a cut off time. I used to snack all evening, but now I know I'm done eating at 3p.m.
It "works" for you in the same way any diet plan does. If it produces a calorie deficit, you lose weight. There is nothing magic or mysterious about it.
The only time I ever do something remotely similar is on days when I know I have a big pig out planned since I do not really do "cheat days". Most recently on the day I had my fantasy football draft I had nothing but a couple of protein bars all day. But when I got to Buffalo Wild Wings later on that night, it was on like Donkey Kong.
So long as you have found something that works for you, wonderful, but it is not wise to have false beliefs about IF or any other dieting fad. This is because most of them are not sustainable long term so at some point you are going to have to deal with the reality that calories are what controls weight, not timing.
@JustRobby1 Buffalo Wild Wings is so delicious. It is a good thing I don't have any false beliefs about IF. It's also a great thing I find it sustainable. I have ample knowledge on weight loss. Lastly, who said anything about IF being magic?
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https://www.nerdfitness.com/the-beginners-guide-to-intermittent-fasting-2017-update-v5/ here is a link for anyone who is curious about IF and how your body works differently during fasting.1
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There have been a couple of argumentative posters in response to this thread. Please click the link above, and do your own research to become educated on IF if you are interested!0
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JustRobby1 wrote: »JustRobby1 wrote: »I never have because there is no real point to IF unless it helps a person stay in a favorable caloric deficit. I can accomplish this just fine without starving myself all day. IF is nothing but a timing schedule, and timing has no effect on weight loss or gain.
I guess it's the placebo effect or something, because it works for me better than anything else has before. I really enjoy it! Plus, I don't have to starve myself. I eat from 7a.m-3p.m every day so it doesn't feel like I'm skipping a meal. My last big meal is right at 3 so I stay satisfied the rest of the evening. I get hungry at bed time, then just sleep it off. It is true, weight loss is creating a calorie deficit. As long as you have a caloric deficit you lose weight no matter the timing. For some reason IF helps me stay accountable to have a cut off time. I used to snack all evening, but now I know I'm done eating at 3p.m.
It "works" for you in the same way any diet plan does. If it produces a calorie deficit, you lose weight. There is nothing magic or mysterious about it.
The only time I ever do something remotely similar is on days when I know I have a big pig out planned since I do not really do "cheat days". Most recently on the day I had my fantasy football draft I had nothing but a couple of protein bars all day. But when I got to Buffalo Wild Wings later on that night, it was on like Donkey Kong.
So long as you have found something that works for you, wonderful, but it is not wise to have false beliefs about IF or any other dieting fad. This is because most of them are not sustainable long term so at some point you are going to have to deal with the reality that calories are what controls weight, not timing.
@JustRobby1 Buffalo Wild Wings is so delicious. It is a good thing I don't have any false beliefs about IF. It's also a great thing I find it sustainable. I have ample knowledge on weight loss. Lastly, who said anything about IF being magic?
Once again, timing/IF is irrelevant to weight loss. To maintain otherwise is to harbor a false belief. That is not being argumentative it’s simply a statement of fact.
Ideally this is about a permanent lifestyle change. Meaning a strategy and relationship with eating that can be maintained for life. The overwhelming majority of the population is not going to be on an IF regimen for life. For the .01% of the population that can? More power to them. To most others who attempt to go this route, I will probably see them again 6 months or so down the road in an “introduce yourself” thread talking about how they are “trying again” or “starting over”. Some people unfortunately have to learn their lesson the hard way. I sure as hell did, but that is not something I would wish upon others.1
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